mom who took son into hiding to save his foreskin sobs in court as she signs consent for circumcisio - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47807346]I'm a Christian and I never knew that, except the Jew part. Jews cut their foreskins off to allow a stronger connection between God and them.[/QUOTE] It's more of an american christian thing. In Europe circumcision is much rarer

[QUOTE=itisjuly;47807405]It's more of an american christian thing. In Europe circumcision is much rarer[/QUOTE] I thought it was more common in Europe, I always had the idea that Europe was more religious than the US

[QUOTE=itisjuly;47807405]It's more of an american christian thing. In Europe circumcision is much rarer[/QUOTE] circumcision is as christian as santa claus as in, totally integral to the entire belief system depending on who you ask but not officially sanctioned by the pope or santorum or whoever is the king of hardcore protestants

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807345]Not really, Christians kinda came down from Jews. [B]Both religions believe in Jesus who told them that circumcision is important[/B][/QUOTE] Jews don't "believe" in Jesus. You ask a Jew what Jesus was, they'll just tell you he was a man who wasn't that special.

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807428]I thought it was more common in Europe, I always had the idea that Europe was more religious than the US[/QUOTE] lol no

[QUOTE=Hugo Strange;47807346]I'm a Christian and I never knew that, except the Jew part. Jews cut their foreskins off to allow a stronger connection between God and them.[/QUOTE] A lot of Jewish traditions started because it was actually sensible to, given the context of medicine at the period of time. Eating pork makes you sick? Let's stop eating it, then. Foreskin keeps getting infected? Let's snip of a bit of it off at birth. They're since outdated because we've an established meat industry that makes pork safe to eat and knowledge to keep foreskin from getting infected without the need for circumcision, but they're still widely practiced, today.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;47807441]Jews don't "believe" in Jesus. You ask a Jew what Jesus was, they'll just tell you he was a man who wasn't that special.[/QUOTE] Oh right, don't they believe that he hasn't come yet or something?

Really Fucking Stupid I hope that once he's old enough He sues the fuck out of the court

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807428]I thought it was more common in Europe, I always had the idea that Europe was more religious than the US[/QUOTE] oh lawd no, countries such as the czech republic have around 80% of the population without religion, with many Scandinavian countries just behind that. [video=youtube;ZVc1ab2RcMs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc1ab2RcMs[/video]

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807428]I thought it was more common in Europe, I always had the idea that Europe was more religious than the US[/QUOTE] No, you'd be hard pressed to find circumcised men in Europe. At least those who aren't Jews. [QUOTE=McSniper12;47807460]Oh right, don't they believe that he hasn't come yet or something?[/QUOTE] Yeah Jesus isn't their Messiah, they're still waiting

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807428]I thought it was more common in Europe, I always had the idea that Europe was more religious than the US[/QUOTE] Circumcision is very rare in most of Europe, Russia and as far as I know Asia too. Doctors won't even ask you if you want your baby cut because it's not done by default. Europe also isn't more religious. More and more people are turning away from religion here every day. [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jojje;47807477]No, you'd be hard pressed to find circumcised men in Europe. At least those who aren't Jews.[/QUOTE]Even the jews, those born in Europe, mostly aren't cut.

Why are you guys debating circumcision and ignoring the bigger issue: [QUOTE]Brought before Judge Jeffrey Gillen on Friday, Hironimus again declined to sign a consent form for the surgery, and she was advised she would remain jailed indefinitely.[/QUOTE] I don't know very much about the US judicial system, but how is this even a thing?

[QUOTE=McSniper12;47807345]Not really, Christians kinda came down from Jews. Both religions believe in Jesus who told them that circumcision is important[/QUOTE] [quote="Acts 15:1-11"] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren. And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.[/quote] [quote="Galatians 6:15"]Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.[/quote] [quote="1 Corinthians 7:17-20"]Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;47807464]Really Fucking Stupid I hope that once he's old enough He sues the fuck out of the court[/QUOTE] I doubt he'd care to. He's barely past the age where children are even capable of storing long-term memories. It's likely that he won't remember a time when he wasn't circumcised, so it'll just be a normal thing to him that's not worth raising much of a fuss about. This is probably why circumcision has remained such a regular tradition-- the large majority of people who are circumcised don't remember the alternative, and don't feel any great sense of loss over it. If circumcision were practiced only on older boys, I'm sure it would have gone out of fashion a long time ago.

[QUOTE=orgornot;47807538]Why are you guys debating circumcision and ignoring the bigger issue: I don't know very much about the US judicial system, but how is this even a thing?[/QUOTE] Contempt of court, you can be detained for as long as you refuse to comply with the judge's ruling.

Am I the only one in here who thinks circumcision isn't that big of a deal? Still, do it when they are a very young infant, not after they've had time to grow. Besides, a lot of women actually prefer it because they think it looks cleaner and nicer. It's cosmetic, yes, and thats kind of what makes this case fucked up. Regardless, the practice itself is really no big deal.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47806766]Children can't legally consent to any medical procedure, hence why it's generally the parents choice. I'm sure most people would rather not refuse to vaccinate people until they're 18.[/QUOTE] Vaccination is a completely different from circumcision, as it doesn't involve mutilating a child's body for largely cosmetic reasons.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;47807728]Am I the only one in here who thinks circumcision isn't that big of a deal? Still, do it when they are a very young infant, not after they've had time to grow. Besides, a lot of women actually prefer it because they think it looks cleaner and nicer. It's cosmetic, yes, and thats kind of what makes this case fucked up. Regardless, the practice itself is really no big deal.[/QUOTE] I honestly agree. Me and like almost all of the dudes in my country have gone through circumcision. Of course I'm not saying that tradition justifies the practice, but the fact is that nobody really minds here. It's honestly not that big of a deal. Mine was done when I was pretty much a baby. And no one really cares about it, in fact we think it's nice and hygienic as it doesn't smell bad like uncircumcised dicks generally do and just generally looks better and stuff. You guys make it sound like it involves removing a limb or something.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;47807728]Am I the only one in here who thinks circumcision isn't that big of a deal? Still, do it when they are a very young infant, not after they've had time to grow. Besides, a lot of women actually prefer it because they think it looks cleaner and nicer. It's cosmetic, yes, and thats kind of what makes this case fucked up. Regardless, the practice itself is really no big deal.[/QUOTE] Women only prefer because that's what they're used to seeing. Either way there's not a striking visual difference between a circumcised and uncircumcised, erect penis.

[QUOTE=Rainboo;47807804]I honestly agree. Me and like almost all of the dudes in my country have gone through circumcision. Of course I'm not saying that tradition justifies the practice, but the fact is that nobody really minds here. It's honestly not that big of a deal. Mine was done when I was pretty much a baby. And no one really cares about it, in fact we think it's nice and hygienic as it doesn't smell bad like uncircumcised dicks generally do and just generally looks better and stuff. You guys make it sound like it involves removing a limb or something.[/QUOTE] How many uncircumcised dicks have you smelled? If somebody doesn't wash its gonna stink either way.

[QUOTE=Rainboo;47807804]I honestly agree. Me and like almost all of the dudes in my country have gone through circumcision. Of course I'm not saying that tradition justifies the practice, but the fact is that nobody really minds here. It's honestly not that big of a deal. Mine was done when I was pretty much a baby. And no one really cares about it, in fact we think it's nice and hygienic as it [B]doesn't smell bad like uncircumcised dicks generally do[/B] and just generally looks better and stuff. You guys make it sound like it involves removing a limb or something.[/QUOTE] Do you smell dicks often?

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;47806889]Imagine being so obsessed with cutting off your son's foreskin you'd have a legal battle for years just to do it.[/QUOTE] My imaginary friend will not love my child unless I mutilate his genitals.

[QUOTE=Rainboo;47807804]I honestly agree. Me and like almost all of the dudes in my country have gone through circumcision. Of course I'm not saying that tradition justifies the practice, but the fact is that nobody really minds here. It's honestly not that big of a deal. Mine was done when I was pretty much a baby. And no one really cares about it, in fact we think it's nice and hygienic as it doesn't smell bad like uncircumcised dicks generally do and just generally looks better and stuff. You guys make it sound like it involves removing a limb or something.[/QUOTE] If uncircumcised penises smell, they have hygienic problems. The aesthetic is an individual opinion, though.

Yeah but foreskin of uncircumcised penis rolls back anyway so there's really no point in cutting it off.

[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;47807915]Yeah but foreskin of uncircumcised penis rolls back anyway so there's really no point in cutting it off.[/QUOTE] Contrary to popular belief there's not really a point in having it either.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47807930]Contrary to popular belief there's not really a point in having it either.[/QUOTE]Yes there is, it's called not cutting babies for no reason

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47807930]Contrary to popular belief there's not really a point in having it either.[/QUOTE] It keeps your penis head moist and sort of protects it, while this can potentially lead to bacteria and shit, this only really happens if you're a dirty scroat, so it's not an issue really.

More man-flesh for the holy spirit I really don't see the point in removing it; you don't chop of your toes, remove your fingernails or any other bodily part in the name of convenience - you just deal with it. The removal of it is just born out of a lame tradition

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;47807464]Really Fucking Stupid I hope that once he's old enough He sues the fuck out of the court[/QUOTE] I really doubt he will care about it unless his mom makes a huge deal of it during his life. Most people don't care.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;47807930]Contrary to popular belief there's not really a point in having it either.[/QUOTE] Contrary to popular belief there's not really a point into mutilating your dick either. [url]http://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html[/url] That's 100 babies too many. [url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=416_1218124584[/url]