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The kid is four fucking years old, how is him getting circumcised even a relevant question anymore

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47810910]The kid is four fucking years old, how is him getting circumcised even a relevant question anymore[/QUOTE] Muslims have it done at 7-9.

[QUOTE=01271;47811245]Muslims have it done at 7-9.[/QUOTE] Between that and being teetotal is it any wonder they flew into the WTC?

[QUOTE=draugur;47810321]Change the subject to forced sterilization of all non-white races at birth because we only want white babies, because "many people say that it looks better" to have white skin. After all they won't remember the procedure when they're older right?[/QUOTE] How the fuck are you comparing the parents decision to circumcise their child at birth to what is essentially fucking genocide Are you serious? Are you for real serious? Because if you are you have a serious problem and need to stop talking

If its not for medical reasons why bother? One of my cousins needed to get circumcised at about 16 for medical reasons and said it was one if the worst medical procedures he'll ever experience

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47810343]These discussions run the same gambit every time verbatim. By and large most people are not for circumcising their child without good reason. But, people who have it and didn't ask for it aren't being told "it's okay". No, they're being told "you're mutilated in a private, sensitive area" like its a point that matters. If these discussions are ever to be worth having, referring to males with it as "mutilated" is fucked up. I know for a fact you wouldn't tell a FGM sufferer to her face that she's mutilated. But here, with men's junk? Go ahead, tell them their mutilated, right? I don't get self conscious about my junk, but if I did, you people wouldn't help.[/QUOTE] This. Thank you. I'm circumcised and TBH I like it. I think my dick looks pretty and I don't appreciate having rabid anti-circumcision nutjobs screaming at me that I'm "mutilated" and my parents are "terrible people" because of it. I'm not mutilated and my parents were fantastic. If I ever had someone say that shit to my face I'd punch them in the dick and see how much they like their extra nerve endings then. [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE='Rain [Amber];47812616']If its not for medical reasons why bother? One of my cousins needed to get circumcised at about 16 for medical reasons and said it was one if the worst medical procedures he'll ever experience[/QUOTE] It was the worst because it happened when he was 16. Obviously you CAN be circumcised later on in life but most doctors will tell you it gets more complicated & painful the longer you wait to do it.

why does the internet always have such an aggressive debate over circumcision? oh wow boys either get a penis that is harder to clean or they get reduced sexual pleasure, am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=meppers;47812658]why does the internet always have such an aggressive debate over circumcision? oh wow boys either get a penis that is harder to clean or they get reduced sexual pleasure, am I missing something here?[/QUOTE] Because the internet is full of people who can't keep their opinions to themselves. Also "reduced sexual pleasure" is utter bullshit. Everything feels [i]fantastic[/i] to me and my "mutilated" penis. Never had a problem climaxing. I'm actually fairly sensitive. The whole "reduced sexual pleasure" thing is just a bullshit thing that anti-cutters say to try and prove their point. Just like people who are circumcised say it's harder to clean an uncut penis. It's simply not true unless you have phimosis.

[QUOTE=Buck.;47806649]You wont see a single feminist complain about this. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("shitposting/Why reply?" - Gurant))[/highlight][/QUOTE] hi im a feminist and i think circumcision is a load of shit and should be up to the receiver's consent [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] oh we're like 4 pages past that

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812713]Because the internet is full of people who can't keep their opinions to themselves. Also "reduced sexual pleasure" is utter bullshit. Everything feels [i]fantastic[/i] to me and my "mutilated" penis. Never had a problem climaxing. I'm actually fairly sensitive. The whole "reduced sexual pleasure" thing is just a bullshit thing that anti-cutters say to try and prove their point. Just like people who are circumcised say it's harder to clean an uncut penis. It's simply not true unless you have phimosis.[/QUOTE] I think it's guys wanting to feel better about themselves, like, they feel that their penises are superior because they haven't been "mutilated".

[QUOTE=Fayez;47812805]I think it's guys wanting to feel better about themselves, like, they feel that their penises are superior because they haven't been "mutilated".[/QUOTE] People like that are stupid as hell. If you need to resort to attacking other people to feel better about yourself, see a goddamn therapist. I'm cut. I like being cut. I think it makes my dick look pretty. I GENERALLY don't much care for uncut dicks I think they look odd. Ain't gonna stop me from sucking them, though. Also I've seen quite a few cute uncut ones too so, I mean, whatever. It depends on the person. Dicks are like snowflakes, no two are alike.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;47810404]And i'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that the way we talk about this is fucked up. Am I "mutilated" for having an earing? For my lip ring? My nose ring? My tattoos? What else do I have that is a mutilation? If this was about FGM, and we had people who had suffered through FGM, would ANYONE here call them "Mutilated" straight up as you, and others have done here to people with the male version of it? No. Asking for some respect on the issue is hardly asking for anything, yet every thread it comes up in, people take offense to the very concept that they shouldn't be calling it mutilation when at least discussing it with the "victims" of it.[/QUOTE] the difference is that tattoo's and piercings were made under your consent rather than by force, and doesn't physically alter you in any real way

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;47812854]Neither one of these are true. The difference between cut and uncut is pretty much almost always just a visual difference, unless you had a physical problem to begin with. Cleaning isn't really changed and sensitivity is relative.[/QUOTE] Like honestly I dunno how cleaning could be a problem. Fucking, find a way to give yourself a boner and it's easy as shit? [editline]a[/editline] Like why does this ever come up I don't get it

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47812632]This. Thank you. I'm circumcised and TBH I like it. I think my dick looks pretty and I don't appreciate having rabid anti-circumcision nutjobs screaming at me that I'm "mutilated" and my parents are "terrible people" because of it. I'm not mutilated and my parents were fantastic. If I ever had someone say that shit to my face I'd punch them in the dick and see how much they like their extra nerve endings then. [editline]26th May 2015[/editline] It was the worst because it happened when he was 16. Obviously you CAN be circumcised later on in life but most doctors will tell you it gets more complicated & painful the longer you wait to do it.[/QUOTE] Mutilated is the correct term for it, get over yourself. You don't need your little finger but people with amputated little fingers don't get to start denying their finger isn't there how stupid is that. and yeah your parents choosing to do it was stupid because there's no reason behind it. You'd probably think it's a lot less cool if you were one of the poor suckers who get penectomies when it fucks up because so many people get this done.

[QUOTE=gk99;47813161]Like honestly I dunno how cleaning could be a problem. Fucking, find a way to give yourself a boner and it's easy as shit? [editline]a[/editline] Like why does this ever come up I don't get it[/QUOTE] You don't even need to give yourself a boner. You pull the skin back and wash it like you would if it was circumsized. If you have the manual dexterity to jack off you can manage this. But yeah I agree, how the hell did this ever become a valid argument?

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813252]Mutilated is the correct term for it, get over yourself. You don't need your little finger but people with amputated little fingers don't get to start denying their finger isn't there how stupid is that. and yeah your parents choosing to do it was stupid because there's no reason behind it. You'd probably think it's a lot less cool if you were one of the poor suckers who get penectomies when it fucks up because so many people get this done.[/QUOTE] Blow me. I am [i]not[/i] mutilated just because you like the excess skin hanging off the end of your dick and my parents were not fucking stupid or bad parents for getting it done. Take your cancerous attitude about circumcision elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813311]Blow me. I am [i]not[/i] mutilated just because you like the excess skin hanging off the end of your dick and my parents were not fucking stupid or bad parents for getting it done. Take your cancerous attitude about circumcision elsewhere.[/QUOTE] If it wasn't stupid then what was their reason for doing it? and cool you like it and other people who get infant circumcisions don't and get angry that they had it done to them, both they and you didn't get a choice but it doesn't matter because you think cutting parts of your body off looks pretty. Screw the people that didn't consent and weren't happy with it

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813345]If it wasn't stupid then what was their reason for doing it? and cool you like it and other people who get infant circumcisions don't and get angry that they had it done to them, both they and you didn't get a choice but it doesn't matter because you think cutting parts of your body off looks pretty. Screw the people that didn't consent and weren't happy with it[/QUOTE] IIRC my foreskin was especially tight. I don't think I had phimosis but my mom told me the doctors had said it could have presented medical problems down the road such as ripping/tearing or inhibiting its growth. I guess they were worried it might have become phimosis. That being said even if I had been given a choice I'd choose circumcision. I fucking prefer it. And you have [i]no right[/i] to insult me or my parents for my dick having less skin on it than yours. That behavior is childish and you need to grow up and realize other people have different opinions to yours and yours isn't the end-all be-all opinion on dick skin.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813376]IIRC my foreskin was especially tight. I don't think I had phimosis but my mom told me the doctors had said it could have presented medical problems down the road such as ripping/tearing or inhibiting its growth. I guess they were worried it might have become phimosis. That being said even if I had been given a choice I'd choose circumcision. I fucking prefer it. And you have [i]no right[/i] to insult me or my parents for my dick having less skin on it than yours. That behavior is childish and you need to grow up and realize other people have different opinions to yours and yours isn't the end-all be-all opinion on dick skin.[/QUOTE] so you had a medical reason then? Might have thought it'd be good to mention that earlier while we're talking about cosmetic surgery on infants, huh? You'd choose it now, okay, how did your parents figure you'd want dick skin cutting off when you were too young to remember, because that's what's being talked about here. So yeah, if you have a legitimate medical reason then more power to your parents, parents choosing genital cosmetic surgery for infants are still being stupid though considering risks, as mentioned before [B]Edit:[/B] But for the record nobody cares about your penis stop getting all uppity when the whole anti-circumcision deal is about stopping the risks of genital surgery on infants and giving them the choice later in life. It's not the fucking uncircumites persecuting the inferior circumcised race for having frankenstein dicks what are yoi smoking. Every time someone comes in and starts blabberimg about their own fucking penis they think the conversation is about them and not the act of doing it without medical reasons to infants. Stop assuming when we say kids are getting non-consensual genital mutilation we're just firing shots at you and trying to get the whole world to think you're frankenstein monsters because that's not what it's about

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813411]so you had a medical reason then? Might have thought it'd be good to mention that earlier while we're talking about cosmetic surgery on infants, huh? You'd choose it now, okay, how did your parents figure you'd want dick skin cutting off when you were too young to remember, because that's what's being talked about here[/QUOTE] [i]Might[/i] have had a medical reason. The doctors, as far as I know, were unsure. And that's besides the point even if there was no medical reason I'd still be happy about it because I still prefer it. I don't give a shit what my parents thought or what they figured or any of that shit. It's how they were raised and it was done to me. Can't undo it, wouldn't if I could, I'm fine with my body and whether or not you're fine with it doesn't matter to me because it's my body, not yours. Mind your own damn business. If you have kids, great, you can NOT circumcise them and let them choose for themselves when they grow up. That's your choice. If I ever have kids I and I have a boy I'll probably have him circumcised because that's [i]my[/i] choice. I'd rather have a daughter though. Dunno why. Just would really rather have a daughter. I'd name her Lily.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813446][i]Might[/i] have had a medical reason. The doctors, as far as I know, were unsure. And that's besides the point even if there was no medical reason I'd still be happy about it because I still prefer it. I don't give a shit what my parents thought or what they figured or any of that shit. It's how they were raised and it was done to me. Can't undo it, wouldn't if I could, I'm fine with my body and whether or not you're fine with it doesn't matter to me because it's my body, not yours. Mind your own damn business. If you have kids, great, you can NOT circumcise them and let them choose for themselves when they grow up. That's your choice. If I ever have kids I and I have a boy [B] I'll probably have him circumcised because that's [i]my[/i] choice. [/B] I'd rather have a daughter though. Dunno why. Just would really rather have a daughter. I'd name her Lily.[/QUOTE] it shouldn't be your choice because your kid's bodies aren't your bodies and this is the whole deal here. But grats you're the type of father that gets kids unnecessary cosmetic surgery advertised for anti-masturbation what's the sense

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813446][i]Might[/i] have had a medical reason. The doctors, as far as I know, were unsure. And that's besides the point even if there was no medical reason I'd still be happy about it because I still prefer it. I don't give a shit what my parents thought or what they figured or any of that shit. It's how they were raised and it was done to me. Can't undo it, wouldn't if I could, I'm fine with my body and whether or not you're fine with it doesn't matter to me because it's my body, not yours. Mind your own damn business. If you have kids, great, you can NOT circumcise them and let them choose for themselves when they grow up. That's your choice. If I ever have kids I and I have a boy I'll probably have him circumcised because that's [i]my[/i] choice. I'd rather have a daughter though. Dunno why. Just would really rather have a daughter. I'd name her Lily.[/QUOTE] Just because you're ok with being circumcised, doesn't mean that it's ok for you to subject another person to a medically unnecessary procedure that permanently alters their body without their consent.

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813502]it shoulsn't be your choice because your kid's bodies aren't your bodies and this is the whole deal here[/QUOTE] I would be his legal guardian. Up until he turns 18 all medical concerns for his health and body are my choice, as long as the choice is not negligent or harmful, as a minor cannot give consent or make legally binding contracts or agreements. Would you fucking give it a rest? You're like a broken record and you seem to be the only one here that cares.

snoberry that's not your choice to circumcise a child and eurocracy you're being really silly imo it's not genital mutilation, I think of it as getting those dumb holes in your ears or getting breast reduction surgery there's nothing wrong with being circumcised. the only thing that's wrong about it is that the parents are choosing for them

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813520]I would be his legal guardian. Up until he turns 18 all medical concerns for his health and body are my choice, as long as the choice is not negligent or harmful, as a minor cannot give consent or make legally binding contracts or agreements. Would you fucking give it a rest? You're like a broken record and you seem to be the only one here that cares.[/QUOTE] medical concerns aren't [I]cosmetic surgery[/I], which does nothing for your kid's health

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;47813531]snoberry that's not your choice to circumcise a child [/QUOTE] Legal guardianship. My child, my choice. And it will remain my choice until the federal government passes a law to ban circumcision unless medically necessary, which I doubt will ever happen. Sorry bud. I don't have a problem with uncircumcised dudes but if I have a boy he's getting circumcised. I wouldn't hold your breath though. I prefer guys and don't particularly want kids in the foreseeable future so I doubt it'll happen.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813520]I would be his legal guardian. Up until he turns 18 all medical concerns for his health and body are my choice.[/QUOTE] I don't think parents should have the right to force their children through any cosmetic surgery they want.

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813536]medical concerns aren't [I]cosmetic surgery[/I], which does nothing for your kid's health[/QUOTE] There are plenty of doctors that are of the opinion that circumcision is a medically beneficial procedure. And it certainly doesn't detract from his health, either. And don't even try and give me that 'reduced sexual pleasure' shit again it's such a tired and obviously bullshit argument.

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47813536]medical concerns aren't [I]cosmetic surgery[/I], which does nothing for your kid's health[/QUOTE] A medical procedure that not only does nothing for your kids health, but carries medical risks as well, and leaves them 4 to 5 times more likely to have erectile dysfunction as a direct result when they get older.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47813549]Legal guardianship. My child, my choice. And it will remain my choice until the federal government passes a law to ban circumcision unless medically necessary, which I doubt will ever happen. Sorry bud. I don't have a problem with uncircumcised dudes but if I have a boy he's getting circumcised. I wouldn't hold your breath though. I prefer guys and don't particularly want kids in the foreseeable future so I doubt it'll happen.[/QUOTE] I'm saying it shouldn't be your choice. It will probably get banned in the next 5 years so I can hold my breath as long as I want :)