Steep Decline In Americans' Belief In Global Warming - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Nikita;17974714]"Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" This technically could mean global warming, global freezing, and anything in between. I personally believe we're moving towards an ice age, very much "The day after tomorrow" style.[/QUOTE] "I personally believe" is not a phrase that belongs in scientific discussion. Belief has nothing to do with it. The explanation the data support most fully is probably the right explanation.

[QUOTE=CivilProtection;17970465]People don't believe in global warming because not much has happened to the average American regarding it while the information and warnings have been around for a while. give it a couple of decades[/QUOTE] Yeah, it's like swine flu. People go apeshit, people stop caring, people die because they stopped caring. Only less people would die of swine flu.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17974973]hmm maybe they should have had a different title for the episode then?[/QUOTE] You mean other than "Being Green?"

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17974986]"I personally believe" is not a phrase that belongs in scientific discussion. Belief has nothing to do with it. The explanation the data support most fully is probably the right explanation.[/QUOTE] Go back to your lab Mr. Scientist.

[QUOTE=AwesomeDino;17975001]Go back to your lab Mr. Scientist.[/QUOTE] The world is my lab. :science:

[QUOTE=philxyz;17974671]Find out all you can about the UN's "Agenda 21". "Catastrophic Man Made Global Warming" has always been planned to be used as a way to bring about global governance. Once everyone realizes that the biggest enemy to mankind is mankind itself, who could REFUSE to become a communist for the good of the world? ^ UN thinking.[/QUOTE] ^ Conspiracy theorist thinking.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;17973174]...Have you even watched his show? Last time I heard, people like Van Jones didn't resign over fiction.[/QUOTE] Yes I've watched his show. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIjeQptydg[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ4nB1nmFWY&feature=PlayList&p=79ADC8DE7E745521&index=0&playnext=1[/media] [editline]05:59PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Nikita;17974714]"Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?" This technically could mean global warming, global freezing, and anything in between. I personally believe we're moving towards an ice age, very much "The day after tomorrow" style.[/QUOTE] So you're not just wrong, you're backwards and wrong? [editline]06:01PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17974971]The Penn and Teller episode was focused more on exposing the silly bits of the green movement than actually disproving global warming.[/QUOTE] Then why did they let easily debunked crackpots on the show to say Global Warming was bullshit?

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975181][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIjeQptydg[/media][/QUOTE] The US' Lewis Prothero. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzKqeG-KTEU[/media]

[QUOTE=philxyz;17974671]Find out all you can about the UN's "Agenda 21". "Catastrophic Man Made Global Warming" has always been planned to be used as a way to bring about global governance. Once everyone realizes that the biggest enemy to mankind is mankind itself, who could REFUSE to become a communist for the good of the world? ^ UN thinking.[/QUOTE]The day the UN takes over the world is the day I fly via gaseous anal propulsion to Alpha Centauri. For Christ's sake, they can't even agree to send angry letters to insane dictators telling them they did a bad thing.

[QUOTE=Yahnich;17975322]It's about time.[/QUOTE] hey, lookit this scrub not reading the thread

I am sure the mean temperature is going up, but in Minnesota it gets colder sooner and seems to last longer every year for like the last 10 years

[QUOTE=Yahnich;17975376]Why should I bother? It's probably a shitfest like every other FP thread.[/QUOTE] Don't post if you're A) not going to read the thread, and B) not going to contribute anything meaningful.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;17974060]You are right in some respects. I think people misconstrued the episode on global warming to be an attack on global warming. Weren't they saying shit like Carbon Credits etc were bullshit? Like the owner of the company for carbon credits giving money to herself for pollution? I may be entirely wrong on this.[/QUOTE] It was that Al Gore was using 20 times more elecricity than the average US citizen. And then he said that he would buy carbon credits. It turned out that he was buying those credits from his own company.

I love how politicians fly around in their private jets telling people across the country that we have to cut down on energy usage to stop Global Warming.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17975716]I love how politicians fly around in their private jets telling people across the country that we have to cut down on energy usage to stop Global Warming.[/QUOTE] how is that an argument against global warming oh wait its not you're just purposefully confusing the issues because you're a dick

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;17974951]lol yes, the UN, the most ineffectual organization in the history of mankind, is trying to take over the world via global warming scams also the FBI wants to put a microchip in your brain[/QUOTE] There's always one that thinks he is more intelligent than all those people that investigate this sort of thing. It's perfectly safe to drop the ego, and read this: "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -- Maurice Strong, head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and Executive Officer for Reform, Office of the UN Secretary General (from The Environmentalists' Little Green Book, ISBN 0-615-11628-0)

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975783]how is that an argument against global warming oh wait its not you're just purposefully confusing the issues because you're a dick[/QUOTE] I'm insulting the politicians promoting global warming, although I somewhat believe in it.

[QUOTE=philxyz;17975788]There's always one that thinks he is being clever. "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" -- Maurice Strong, head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro and Executive Officer for Reform, Office of the UN Secretary General (from The Environmentalists' Little Green Book, ISBN 0-615-11628-0)[/QUOTE] Hey look, a quote with absolutely no context. I'm convinced. [editline]06:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17975806]I'm insulting the politicians promoting global warming, although I somewhat believe in it.[/QUOTE] First off, how do you except them to travel cross country or even cross nation without the use of jets? Second, what does this "somewhat" entail?

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975783]how is that an argument against global warming oh wait its not you're just purposefully confusing the issues because you're a dick[/QUOTE] Insulting people does not make you appear more intelligent than them.

[QUOTE=philxyz;17975838]Insulting people does not make you appear more intelligent than them.[/QUOTE] Oh you're right, I should go your route by acting ridiculously serious and taking quotes out of context.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975808] First off, how do you except them to travel cross country or even cross nation without the use of jets? Second, what does this "somewhat" entail?[/QUOTE] I believe in Global Warming, but I don't see it as a future apocalyptic problem as some people do.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;17973802]Don't attribute to greed or conspiracy what you can adequately explain with humanity's inherent stupidity. Climatologists are like any other group of people, and just as easily made to believe silly shit. Global warming being real or not, you have to admit that it's being pushed by large groups of non-climatologists who definitely [i]do[/i] have agendas furthered by it and money to make off it, it's being over-hyped by the media as a result, there's peer pressure in certain fields to either blindly accept it or blindly deny it, etc.[/QUOTE] There's no doubt in my mind that such pressure and hype exists. But if you look at the graph, the more directly involved people are in actual climate research, the more strongly they support the conclusion, which to me suggests that if anything the hype AGAINST it is affecting broader scientific opinion. Also don't mind phillyxyz's posts guys he's completely out of his gourd

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975861]Oh you're right, I should go your route by acting ridiculously serious and taking quotes out of context.[/QUOTE] In my case, I'm not trying to appear more intelligent. The hope is, intelligent people will realise for themselves what the UN is up to without shutting their ears and saying "la la la I'm not listening, fruitcake". Plus, the quote is not out of context. I introduced the context by referring to UN Agenda 21.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17975879]I believe in Global Warming, but I don't see it as a future apocalyptic problem as some people do.[/QUOTE] Er, why? If you think that global warming is real, why would you, or better, [I]how[/I] could you disagree with that fact that if it continues, ice will melt and shit will get fucked? And I'm still waiting for an alternative to jet travel.

[QUOTE=TH89;17970911]If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?[/QUOTE] first thing that came to mind: [img]http://legorobotcomics.com/comics/14.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=philxyz;17975892]The quote is not out of context. I introduced the context by referring to UN Agenda 21.[/QUOTE] Give me the whole speech the quote is from. Maybe then we can talk.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975909]Give me the whole speech the quote is from. Maybe then we can talk.[/QUOTE] Nah, I'm gonna go play CSS. If you were really interested, you would have figured this stuff out by yourself by now.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17975900]Er, why? If you think that global warming is real, why would you, or better, [I]how[/I] could you disagree with that fact that if it continues, ice will melt and shit will get fucked? And I'm still waiting for an alternative to jet travel.[/QUOTE] Global warming isn't going to destroy the world. And Al-Gore doesn't need to fly in a personal jet. He could either take a commercial jet or have television commercials to reach people across the country. I just find it funny that he tells others to cut down on energy usage, and yet, he doesn't.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17975975]Global warming isn't going to destroy the world.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that was never the issue. Personally I'm more concerned about it destroying humanity.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;17975975]And Al-Gore doesn't need to fly in a personal jet. He could either take a commercial jet or have television commercials to reach people across the country. I just find it funny that he tells others to cut down on energy usage, and yet, he doesn't.[/QUOTE] Well, you never know. Maybe he had two jets.