Man Made Virus to Wipe out half of humanity! (Your already dead) - Polidicks

"Hey Harold, this new research contract just came in from this Kim Jong Ill guy." "Hes going to offer some money and stuff, but he wants us to make a virus that kills half of the worlds population!" "I don't see why not Jeffry, lets get to work." [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SwissArmyKnife;33483308]The issue isn't the virus getting out of the original lab, the issue is it forming naturally in nature and then catching us off-guard. That's the whole reason it was made in a lab in the first place, and that's the reason for releasing it for public research. The problem is that both researching it publicly and not researching it are both shit options and a bad bet to make. The most ideal situation I can think of is to dedicate a team or several teams of researchers to research a vaccine for H5N1 in a very controlled and secure environment. That way there's no risk of A. having samples made at less than secure research facilities getting out and infecting half the population and B. malicious parties making the virus for biological warfare. Even the biological warfare thing is less of a concern than the security of other facilities. Because while it may be difficult to reproduce for a "terrorist" organization with no dedicated virologists. It sounds like it'd be easy enough to reproduce in your higher level research facility. And with such open means to making it you expose the world greatly to leaks from trying to find a vaccine. That is what's scary, the fact that it's been made that much more contagious, and releasing the research publicly puts everyone at a large risk of a leak from an environment without the facilities to handle this level of virus. Honestly the most ideal solution is to take the bet that H5N1 wouldn't form naturally within a two year span, and dedicate a locked down team of researchers to it's vaccine and have it under incredibly tight control. Because that's a much safer bet than the two presented alternatives.[/QUOTE] Also 28 days later shit where hippies go and steal it for Peta or what the fuck ever.

Cue the panic attack. It was a really bad idea for me to read this I really hope the people who decided to make this now start to use their time to create a vaccine

[QUOTE=Galago;33469410][t]http://www.johnmsteele.com/Movies/residentEvilBrokenVial.jpg[/t] Damnit, I new I should have double-knotted my shoelaces![/QUOTE] In the movie, he did that intentionally.

It's truly frightening what would happen if this got out but I think it's better for us to come across it in a controlled environment so we can study how to counter it. If we so easily created it just through making it mutate then there's a very real possibility of it happening naturally too.

At this point, if they DON'T release it, they're retarded. Now that people know it's possible to make, it's a ticking clock until someone unlocks it, and if we don't have a vaccine by then hoo boy

you're wont get infected if you are believer in jesus

[quote]Also 28 days later shit where hippies go and steal it for Peta or what the fuck ever.[/quote] why do you insist on using the word "hippies" incorrectly

The world needs a good virus. (Not that I'm an environmentalist, we just need an arbitrary change to survive as a race)

[QUOTE=Awegner;33483512]Also 28 days later shit where hippies go and steal it for Peta or what the fuck ever.[/QUOTE] I was thinking more a 12 Monkeys kind of thing, but yeah. Security of the labs trying to find a vaccine is a bigger concern than a group of guys from Sudan trying to recreate the virus in their buddy's house.

[QUOTE=the_headcrab;33485430]The world needs a good virus. (Not that I'm an environmentalist, we just need an arbitrary change to survive as a race)[/QUOTE] thats fucked up [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] youre fucked up

[QUOTE=buddhamathis;33485349]you're wont get infected if you are believer in jesus[/QUOTE] You're right! Jesus will protect you from all maladies! You know, you should get yourself injected with this so we could get a vaccine made from your blood.

[QUOTE=Contag;33476331]Gee whiz, why didn't we think of doing this before? Thanks for the advice! Or you know, maybe things like influenza and others are also extremely important for public health.[/QUOTE] [I]you[/I]'re extremely important for public health now cure my cancer

Hope this isn't some form of population control.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;33479323]idiot [editline]28th November 2011[/editline] idiot, anti-intellectual, unthinker[/QUOTE] I approve of development, and i love thinking, and i am far from an idiot. Thinking and sharing ideas was what that first got me on the internet, or even out among other people. But killing the world is not something i support, imagine some retard getting their fingers on this shit and killing 90% of human population, that wouldnt be nice. The lab could be broken into, the recipe could be used, and the scientists could be captured and tortured to submission. This should just be destroyed. If nature wants me to die, im ok with that, but not because of some terrorist craphole. The thing was manmade, not made by nature and therefore not a neccesary addition to the already enormous diversity of vira. /serious opinion idiot, short sighted, extremist futurist

Use it against retards (the ones who have caused it on their own, not the real retards) and F2Pers, please.

[QUOTE=killer89;33488458]Use it against retards (the ones who have caused it on their own, not the real retards) and F2Pers, please.[/QUOTE] Yeah F2pers are worse than Stalin right guys? No

I say inject the dumbass that invented it and lock him in a room.

So we have the original H5N1 a mutated stronger H5N1 and soon a super H5N1. Wow! Look at all those choices!

[QUOTE=Jacknife;33480575]wtf why[/QUOTE] Because, evidently, people are [I]fucking morons.[/I] I can understand wanting to study it, but if that's the case, [B][I]fucking study it.[/I][/B] I'm a natural optimist, but even I think it's too much to basically give half a million lives to whoever has Google and a chemistry set.

[QUOTE=Holy-Smokes;33488393]I approve of development, and i love thinking, and i am far from an idiot. Thinking and sharing ideas was what that first got me on the internet, or even out among other people. But killing the world is not something i support, imagine some retard getting their fingers on this shit and killing 90% of human population, that wouldnt be nice. The lab could be broken into, the recipe could be used, and the scientists could be captured and tortured to submission. This should just be destroyed. If nature wants me to die, im ok with that, but not because of some terrorist craphole. The thing was manmade, not made by nature and therefore not a neccesary addition to the already enormous diversity of vira. /serious opinion idiot, short sighted, extremist futurist[/QUOTE] the thing was manmade but the fact that they made it by randomly mutating its genes [I]makes it extremely likely that this thing will arise in nature at some point in the near future[/I] if they don't continue this research, we will NOT have a cure when this thing pops up in nature and the outbreak WILL be devastating and lastly, you literally suggested killing the scientists which is not only idiotic but abhorable [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Aetna;33491294]I say inject the dumbass that invented it and lock him in a room.[/QUOTE] I say you should stop posting [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] good fucking god I've never seen so many medieval shitbrains in one thread together [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Cone;33492206]Because, evidently, people are [I]fucking morons.[/I] I can understand wanting to study it, but if that's the case, [B][I]fucking study it.[/I][/B] I'm a natural optimist, but even I think it's too much to basically give half a million lives to whoever has Google and a chemistry set.[/QUOTE] yes because you can make a virus from scratch with a chemistry set why didnt terrorists think of this before??!?!?

Well I'm terrified, time to buy a gasmask or something.

Good thing I still have my H1N1 mask from a couple years ago :v:

Makes me laugh, these kinds of virus are not that deadly, they mostly just scare the shit out of you. (Btw, H1N1 killed less people than a normal flu, you guys watch too much T.V.) And even if it were to happen, why care about it? Freaking the fuck out wont help you either.

[QUOTE=CrashLemon;33492693](Btw, H1N1 killed less people than a normal flu, you guys watch too much T.V.)[/QUOTE] Tallied deaths are different from a fatality rate. With the way you worded it, I could say that the flu has killed more people per year than Ebola Zaire has since it was discovered. The recent (2009) H1N1 outbreak had a fatality rate of .003%, roughly. Still equated to 18,000 or so deaths, but that's not all that bad in the scope of things. That means 5,982,000 infected people survived just fine. Now if we did that same thing and said six million got infected with Ebola Zaire (and hell, I'll be nice and use the average 83%, not the high-term 90%), we would have: 4,980,000 deaths and 1,020,000 survivors - give or take. Now, that was just a big tangent really. I'm not sure where they're getting this [I]half of humanity[/I] figure, because unless they've made it significantly more lethal. Even if it was as bad as the Spanish 1918 outbreak, that's still only a rough 2% mortality rate. Even if we're up to 7 billion people, that's only 140 million dead. Granted, that's nearing half the US population, but hey - it's damned far from this [I]half of humanity[/I] panic.

[QUOTE=Sift;33482079]Bravo science, I'm actually alright with this, if it's something that can happen naturally then I want it discovered at it's earlier possible oppertunity that way a countermeasure can be prepared for the sake of saving lives. Yes it's a scary thought about a disease being able to do this, but I'd rather it be known now and be dealt with then being caught with our pants down helpless to stop it until it's almost to late to save a lot of people Find a Vaccine, keep medical records of it, then get rid of the recipe and the sample of the virus in a controlled way, if all records are burned then we may forget how to create the cure. Science is a amazing thing, I love it.[/QUOTE] What happens when they decide we're too overpopulated and that "climate change" (lol) prevention is not negotiable? "hurp, too many people. lets just ask them to stop having babies." They're not going to take that approach. We have no business bio-engineering viruses that can be weaponized. It doesn't even matter who has it, and why, it's abuse potential compared with humanity's ethics track record is bone chilling.

World economy in trouble? [B]Make virus that can wipe out half of humanity[/B]

You know what vaccines are made of off, right? The same virus just weakened in order for our body to make the defenses strong enough so we can be ready when fighting the real sickness to the point we would not even feel that the virus would have barely made us feel synthoms or, in the worst of cases, feel one little thing or two that would go away in a week (inb4 someone says "that 'little thing' is death"), considering that, it IS a flu, the vaccine would also be used for Influenza or others. So the only reasonable explanation for this would be the creation of a vaccine that would cure the H1N1 and stronger verions of it, or even worse sickness besides this flu, in help of all humanity. ... Either that, or we are fucked up.

Can gas mask protect against this? [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] Uh, probably not.

[QUOTE=sa2fan;33499059]Can gas mask protect against this? [editline]29th November 2011[/editline] Uh, probably not.[/QUOTE] Gas masks filter specific things. They do not filter smoke, biological agents or certain chemical agents.

Scientists must think it is their job to kill people