Nigel Farage widely criticised after being buttmassively buttdestroyed in radio interview until UKIP - Polidicks

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44846139]Piss off, who do you think you are calling me an idiot for voting for someone I think will make a difference for the better? I don't go calling you an idiot because you want "X". I see immigration as a problem right now and would like it curbed, the only one seemingly capable is UKIP. [sp]wanker[/sp][/QUOTE] oi fook off m8 ill fooken slap u up u fooken paki

[QUOTE=Riutet;44847036]Some men just want to watch the world burn. That's why I'm voting UKIP.[/QUOTE] Honestly it's tempting to vote for UKIP just to see how much they'll fuck everything up.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44846139]Piss off, who do you think you are calling me an idiot for voting for someone I think will make a difference for the better? I don't go calling you an idiot because you want "X". I see immigration as a problem right now and would like it curbed, the only one seemingly capable is UKIP. [sp]wanker[/sp][/QUOTE] so wait this dude just alleged some invisible difference (i wonder what it is) between Germans and Romanians like it was clear as fucking day, then panics and abruptly attempts to change the subject to the same talking point he's used for his entire career, and your response is to vote for him? i don't care if the tories may or may not be racist (they probably are to some degree being the tories), that doesn't change the fact that Nigel Farage just made a dumb, blatantly supremacist statement when pressed for answers that weren't just "grr immigrants grr EU," and he is the guy who will run the country if enough people vote for him. how the hell could you look at this dude panicking and sweating and randomly making racist remarks at the slightest obligation and think "this guy really know what he's talking about"? competent leaders don't need their PR manager to stop interviews. [editline]19th May[/editline] it couldn't matter less if the other parties are also racist. if you think they're racist and being racist is bad, [I]don't vote for the guy that just exposed himself as being really super racist.[/I]

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44846139]Piss off, who do you think you are calling me an idiot for voting for someone I think will make a difference for the better? I don't go calling you an idiot because you want "X". I see immigration as a problem right now and would like it curbed, the only one seemingly capable is UKIP. [sp]wanker[/sp][/QUOTE] UKIP isn't a single issue party, if they get into power because people want "immigration curbed" [sp](TOP LEL)[/sp] then they will get a chance to do everything else they've said they'll do. UKIP isn't some grass roots "muh britain" party, it's a bunch of bigots and morons masquerading under the pretence of British independence from the EU. Many of the party members have spoken saying that they don't believe climate change is our fault (which they can believe all they like, but it won't stop it becoming our problem), is that the kind of group you want to vote for?

Man, people want to vote for that guy as well against all logic.

[QUOTE=danharibo;44848871]UKIP isn't a single issue party, if they get into power because people want "immigration curbed" [sp](TOP LEL)[/sp] then they will get a chance to do everything else they've said they'll do. UKIP isn't some grass roots "muh britain" party, it's a bunch of bigots and morons masquerading under the pretence of British independence from the EU. Many of the party members have spoken saying that they don't believe climate change is our fault (which they can believe all they like, but it won't stop it becoming our problem), is that the kind of group you want to vote for?[/QUOTE] I understand that they aren't a single party issue but when you've seen what all the rest are like who are you supposed to vote for? Tony Blairs company owes something like £12m in tax and he caused an illegal war among many other things he shouldn't have done. Labour. Margaret Thatcher needs no words said and she was conservative. David Cameron is a farce, what even is bedroom tax? Purposely aimed at the poorest of the country and I have owned a house, had to pay bills etc. It isn't easy. I tried to get a job anywhere and when an opening came up for a chicken farm I applied right away. Low and behold the factory was filled with polish workers on JSA being payed off the books, this is enough for me to base my vote on UKIP. It's not just chicken farms though. And BNP is just ridiculous. About climate change, it really is just that. Climate change, I read somewhere this happens as a natural cycle of the planets life going from tropical climates to ice ages. Seems to make more sense than some factories melting the planet

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848898]I understand that they aren't a single party issue but when you've seen what all the rest are like who are you supposed to vote for? Tony Blairs company owes something like £12m in tax and he caused an illegal war among many other things he shouldn't have done. Labour. Margaret Thatcher needs no words said and she was conservative. David Cameron is a farce, what even is bedroom tax? Purposely aimed at the poorest of the country and I have owned a house, had to pay bills etc. It isn't easy. I tried to get a job anywhere and when an opening came up for a chicken farm I applied right away. Low and behold the factory was filled with polish workers on JSA being payed off the books, this is enough for me to base my vote on UKIP. It's not just chicken farms though. And BNP is just ridiculous. About climate change, it really is just that. Climate change, I read somewhere this happens as a natural cycle of the planets life going from tropical climates to ice ages. Seems to make more sense than some factories melting the planet[/QUOTE] Climate change is a natural cycle, the fact that the atmosphere is at a record high for carbon dioxide is not, we are massively altering our planet and it could be irreparable. That's not opinion any more, there is literally no serious debate any more whether or not it's real, or if we've had an impact, the debate is now on how the fuck we stop every coast line going under 10 metres of water.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848898]I understand that they aren't a single party issue but when you've seen what all the rest are like who are you supposed to vote for? Tony Blairs company owes something like £12m in tax and he caused an illegal war among many other things he shouldn't have done. Labour. Margaret Thatcher needs no words said and she was conservative. David Cameron is a farce, what even is bedroom tax? Purposely aimed at the poorest of the country and I have owned a house, had to pay bills etc. It isn't easy. I tried to get a job anywhere and when an opening came up for a chicken farm I applied right away. Low and behold the factory was filled with polish workers on JSA being payed off the books, this is enough for me to base my vote on UKIP. It's not just chicken farms though. And BNP is just ridiculous. About climate change, it really is just that. Climate change, I read somewhere this happens as a natural cycle of the planets life going from tropical climates to ice ages. [B]Seems to make more sense than some factories melting the planet[/B][/QUOTE] Only because you're woefully (and willfully) ignorant.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44848908]Climate change is a natural cycle, the fact that the atmosphere is at a record high for carbon dioxide is not, we are massively altering our planet and it could be irreparable. That's not opinion any more, there is literally no serious debate any more whether or not it's real, or if we've had an impact, the debate is now on how the fuck we stop every coast line going under 10 metres of water.[/QUOTE] I live in the Highlands of Scotland where it's pishy rain and high coastal areas. Climate change will only make this drear, cold place a better one

A lot of UKIDS in here crying when their party gets some legitimate scrutiny

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848918]I live in the Highlands of Scotland where it's pishy rain and high coastal areas. Climate change will only make this drear, cold place a better one[/QUOTE] There are other places in the world, places where crops are grown and people live.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848918]I live in the Highlands of Scotland where it's pishy rain and high coastal areas. Climate change will only make this drear, cold place a better one[/QUOTE] Aye well I live outside Glasgow and because I'm not a complete and utter spastic I realise that any rise in sea levels is bad for everyone. What exactly do you think will happen? Just a sea level rise? In recent years it's been found that the changing weather patterns are forcing hurricanes to move further north towards the poles, if that get's any worse there's really nothing to stop them from just bending over to us, not to mention the part where it's theorised that the massive change in weather patterns could turn the majority of the UK into a desert, well at least the part's that aren't underwater. Those floods down in England will become the norm as well, so yeah it's in our best interests to not be a massive arsehole about it.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848898]I understand that they aren't a single party issue but when you've seen what all the rest are like who are you supposed to vote for? Tony Blairs company owes something like £12m in tax and he caused an illegal war among many other things he shouldn't have done. Labour. Margaret Thatcher needs no words said and she was conservative. David Cameron is a farce, what even is bedroom tax? Purposely aimed at the poorest of the country and I have owned a house, had to pay bills etc. It isn't easy. I tried to get a job anywhere and when an opening came up for a chicken farm I applied right away. Low and behold the factory was filled with polish workers on JSA being payed off the books, this is enough for me to base my vote on UKIP. It's not just chicken farms though. And BNP is just ridiculous. About climate change, it really is just that. Climate change, I read somewhere this happens as a natural cycle of the planets life going from tropical climates to ice ages. Seems to make more sense than some factories melting the planet[/QUOTE] if you wanna criticize the Tories for unfair taxes, how do you think a 30% flat tax would go down? or cutting funding for absolutely everything (including education and the NHS), and putting it all into the military? UKIP doesn't like to remind you that it has policies other than the ones they rant about around the clock, and in your case it's clearly worked like a charm. if you don't like what's apparently the only four parties you're aware exist, go look up some other ones and vote for them. don't just randomly pick the first one that has vaguely convincing propaganda without knowing anything about their policies.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44848936]Aye well I live outside Glasgow and because I'm not a complete and utter spastic I realise that any rise in sea levels is bad for everyone. What exactly do you think will happen? Just a sea level rise? In recent years it's been found that the changing weather patterns are forcing hurricanes to move further north towards the poles, if that get's any worse there's really nothing to stop them from just bending over to us, not to mention the part where it's theorised that the massive change in weather patterns could turn the majority of the UK into a desert, well at least the part's that aren't underwater. Those floods down in England will become the norm as well, so yeah it's in our best interests to not be a massive arsehole about it.[/QUOTE] Worst case scenario journalism. The UK will not turn into a desert, that is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848946]Worst case scenario journalism. The UK will not turn into a desert, that is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Yeah but you think that pumping massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere has zero effect on the environment so really what do you know?

[QUOTE=Cone;44848941]if you wanna criticize the Tories for unfair taxes, how do you think a 30% flat tax would go down? or cutting funding for absolutely everything (including education and the NHS), and putting it all into the military? UKIP doesn't like to remind you that it has policies other than the ones they rant about around the clock, and in your case it's clearly worked like a charm. if you don't like what's apparently the only four parties you're aware exist, go look up some other ones and vote for them. don't just randomly pick the first one that has vaguely convincing propaganda without knowing anything about their policies.[/QUOTE] If I vote for "some other party" I might as well not vote imo I'm voting UKIP and you can't stop me!

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848952]If I vote for "some other party" I might as well not vote imo I'm voting UKIP and you can't stop me![/QUOTE] are you even old enough to vote? you dont sound like it

[QUOTE=Bobie;44849007]are you even old enough to vote? you dont sound like it[/QUOTE] No I've just owned my own house and have a license Still underage though

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849032]No I've just owned my own house and have a license Still underage though[/QUOTE] and let me guess, you've seen the dangers of the EU and immigration first hand, but you have plenty of black friends too?

So not only do you have no idea what you're actually voting for, and very little on what you're voting against, you can't vote anyway! So you're UKIP's target demographic. Wonderful.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848946]Worst case scenario journalism. The UK will not turn into a desert, that is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Climate change/global warming could cause the temperature of the oceans to increase which could completely destroy most of the aquatic life in the reefs. As most of the worlds oxygen comes from plant life in the sea, it's probably not ideal to go around letting all of that life get destroyed.

[QUOTE=Bobie;44849041]and let me guess, you've seen the dangers of the EU and immigration first hand, but you have plenty of black friends too?[/QUOTE] I've seen places I'd like to work occupied by immigrants on benefits being payed off the books yes. I have no black friends but my cousins are half Pakistani Why this matters however I'm not sure.. And in reply to coffee: Life always finds a way, I'm not particularly worried about what could happen since it hasn't happened. The planet and it's life has gone through much worse than climate change :v:

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[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849051]I've seen places I'd like to work occupied by immigrants on benefits being payed off the books yes. I have no black friends but my cousins are half Pakistani Why this matters however I'm not sure..[/QUOTE] wait so how did you find out these workforces were on benefits? and how did you know they were immigrants, and not simply people of colour or second generation migrants? and have you ever taken a moment to consider that the reason they have the job over you is simply because they either got to the job first, or are worthier candidates for the job than you?

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849057]-snip-[/QUOTE] [quote]Life always finds a way, I'm not particularly worried about what could happen since it hasn't happened. The planet and it's life has gone through much worse than climate change :v:[/quote] No actually, the planet hasn't, not while being capable of sustaining life in large numbers and since the vast majority of humanity would like to carry on living we should probably do something about it. What's your opinion on renewable energy and sustainability, a waste of money?

[QUOTE=Bobie;44849063]wait so how did you find out these workforces were on benefits? and how did you know they were immigrants, and not simply people of colour or second generation migrants? and have you ever taken a moment to consider that the reason they have the job over you is simply because they either got to the job first, or are worthier candidates for the job than you?[/QUOTE] Because I used to sell weed to some of them and they were telling me how they go about working and earning benefits still, rather easy. [I]They get payed off the books[/I] The farmer might have seen it that way yes but I was never even given a chance to prove myself. [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=bravehat;44849068]No actually, the planet hasn't, not while being capable of sustaining life in large numbers and since the vast majority of humanity would like to carry on living we should probably do something about it. What's your opinion on renewable energy and sustainability, a waste of money?[/QUOTE] I'd prefer Nuclear energy as it's much more efficient than other forms of energy, however due to recent advances in solar tech I'd like to see more done with that on individual households/people adding to the grid

god damn if joshdasmif want to vote UKIP he can, it's called a democracy and freedom which by the looks of what im reading you'd have him robbed of that. [sp]im voting ukip, go cry me a river[/sp]

Re the 30% tax rate: I believe that UKIP have, economically, moved slightly to the left in recent years, and have dropped that policy. But even when they had it, it was not just a 30%-off-everything tax. They would have also increased the personal allowance such that anyone who works a 40-hour week on minimum wage would not pay any income tax. And yet, according to their opponents, this would somehow lead to the poorest workers being worse off! Not only that, but VAT is an EU-imposed tax, which is required to be a minimum of 15%. If UKIP took us out of the EU, this regressive tax could be lowered or even (though not likely) removed altogether.

Also something I like about UKIP is they are going to have our Monarch be put into use again. From the Wiki page: UKIP fully supports the British Monarchy and its Constitutional role. They oppose disestablishment of Church, and believe the Monarch should remain Defender of the Faith. They would restore public oaths of allegiance to the Monarch, not the State, reflecting the constitutional role of the Monarchy in the UK and the danger of elevating the authority of the government further. UKIP will consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Really sounds interesting to me as I'm all for Queen and country

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849125]Also something I like about UKIP is they are going to have our Monarch be put into use again. From the Wiki page: UKIP fully supports the British Monarchy and its Constitutional role. They oppose disestablishment of Church, and believe the Monarch should remain Defender of the Faith. They would restore public oaths of allegiance to the Monarch, not the State, reflecting the constitutional role of the Monarchy in the UK and the danger of elevating the authority of the government further. UKIP will consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Really sounds interesting to me as I'm all for Queen and country[/QUOTE] I absolutely adore the monarchy, but they should stay exactly as they are.