Nigel Farage widely criticised after being buttmassively buttdestroyed in radio interview until UKIP - Polidicks

Vote UKIP all you want, Scotland is probably fucking off soon anyway.

[QUOTE=Scot;44849172]Vote UKIP all you want, Scotland is probably fucking off soon anyway.[/QUOTE] If Scotland goes independent I'm moving to England. Would hate to see a Rhodesia V2 because of fat twat Salmond

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849183]If Scotland goes independent I'm moving to England. Would hate to see a Rhodesia V2 because of fat twat Salmond[/QUOTE] Similarly, if Farage gets anywhere near Downing Street, I'm moving to Europe.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849125]Also something I like about UKIP is they are going to have our Monarch be put into use again. From the Wiki page: UKIP fully supports the British Monarchy and its Constitutional role. They oppose disestablishment of Church, and believe the Monarch should remain Defender of the Faith. They would restore public oaths of allegiance to the Monarch, not the State, reflecting the constitutional role of the Monarchy in the UK and the danger of elevating the authority of the government further. UKIP will consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Really sounds interesting to me as I'm all for Queen and country[/QUOTE] tell me how this is a good thing

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44849202]Similarly, if Farage gets anywhere near Downing Street, I'm moving to Europe.[/QUOTE] I'll move to Romania and scrounge off benefits

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;44849205]tell me how this is a good thing[/QUOTE] Personally I believe more Monarch influence would be a good thing because the way I see it is the Queen cares more about her people than her retirement and pension

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849125]Also something I like about UKIP is they are going to have our Monarch be put into use again. From the Wiki page: UKIP fully supports the British Monarchy and its Constitutional role. They oppose disestablishment of Church, and believe the Monarch should remain Defender of the Faith. They would restore public oaths of allegiance to the Monarch, not the State, reflecting the constitutional role of the Monarchy in the UK and the danger of elevating the authority of the government further. UKIP will consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Really sounds interesting to me as I'm all for Queen and country[/QUOTE] People like you make me consider mandatory ignorancy (I won't call you stupid) tests for voters as a good idea. Please stop talking about climate change, whilst you're stating some true facts you're manipulating and using them wrongly. Yes the earth has suffered much worse than current climate change, but it is undoubtedly anthropogenic, and those events might not have wiped out live on earth but came pretty close, and humans would be wiped out. We're not 100% sure of what's going to be the full effects, but what if one of these "worse things" happen? What if it leads to an anoxia event such as that caused the Permo-Triassic mass extinction and wiped out 83% of genera on earth and 96% of all marine species.

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;44849215]People like you make me consider mandatory ignorancy (I won't call you stupid) tests for voters as a good idea. Please stop talking about climate change, whilst you're stating some true facts you're manipulating and using them wrongly. Yes the earth has suffered much worse than current climate change, but it is undoubtedly anthropogenic, and those events might not have wiped out live on earth but came pretty close, and humans would be wiped out. We're not 100% sure of what's going to be the full effects, but what if one of these "worse things" happen? What if it leads to an anoxia event such as that caused the Permo-Triassic mass extinction and wiped out 83% of genera on earth and 96% of all marine species.[/QUOTE] I would shit myself and wish I never did the things I did, I just really don't see it happening sorry

What if climate change is all a big sham and we make a better world all for nothing?!

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849213]Personally I believe more Monarch influence would be a good thing because the way I see it is the Queen cares more about her people than her retirement and pension[/QUOTE] do you have anything to back this up other than a feeling because reintroducing a monarch's influence is a pretty risky thing to do from just a feeling I mean i don't know about you but I'm pretty happy that the lesbian couple I'm friends with are getting married, and all this reestablishment of the church and the queen getting more influence doesn't seem conducive to that

[QUOTE=Sitkero;44849228]What if climate change is all a big sham and we make a better world all for nothing?![/QUOTE] It could well be a sham since the more emissions your vehicle gives out, the more money you have to give the government in tax! Oh look people, our scientist tell you the earth is going to [i]BOIL[/i]! Better give us more tax so we can pretend to fix it [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=strayebyrd;44849232]do you have anything to back this up other than a feeling because reintroducing a monarch's influence is a pretty risky thing to do from just a feeling I mean i don't know about you but I'm pretty happy that the lesbian couple I'm friends with are getting married, and all this reestablishment of the church and the queen getting more influence doesn't seem conducive to that[/QUOTE] It's deeply routed into me, I don't know why I love the queen but I do

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849235]It could well be a sham since the more emissions your vehicle gives out, the more money you have to give the government in tax! Oh look people, our scientist tell you the earth is going to [i]BOIL[/i]! Better give us more tax so we can pretend to fix it [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] It's deeply routed into me, I don't know why I love the queen but I do[/QUOTE] Neither of these are good answers for anything

But it's [b]my[/b] opinion and everyone has their own. In [b]my[/b] opinion UKIP would be a good thing This all started because I said this in my first post of the thread

[QUOTE=Vasili;44845624]I think there is an actual media gang up against UKIP, notice how many of the papers keep referring to UKIPs events as 'car crashes' all of a sudden?[/QUOTE] Well whenever an extremist party of sort shows up in any country there's almost always a mass media movement against that party. It's fairly normal and generally a good thing.

[QUOTE=krakadict;44849112]god damn if joshdasmif want to vote UKIP he can, it's called a democracy and freedom which by the looks of what im reading you'd have him robbed of that. [sp]im voting ukip, go cry me a river[/sp][/QUOTE] he's free to vote, these people are free to criticize him for that

Jimmy Carr hits the nail on the head. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ICmOYP8gs[/media]

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849256]But it's [b]my[/b] opinion and everyone has their own. In [b]my[/b] opinion UKIP would be a good thing This all started because I said this in my first post of the thread[/QUOTE] Just because it's an opinion, it isn't immune to criticism.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849256]But it's [b]my[/b] opinion and everyone has their own. In [b]my[/b] opinion UKIP would be a good thing This all started because I said this in my first post of the thread[/QUOTE] I understand that this is your opinion, but that doesn't stop your opinion from being based on either inaccurate or indefensible points. It also doesn't stop me telling you this, and letting you know that your arguments in this thread have been made almost entirely from ignorance. I'm not trying to call you stupid, I'm just saying every argument you've made has either been 'I don't believe those scientists' or 'I can't explain why I just do', neither of which are really all that valid without something to back it up. That's an ignorant argument. I'm not saying you're necessarily ignorant, I'm just saying your argument is.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849213]Personally I believe more Monarch influence would be a good thing because the way I see it is the Queen cares more about her people than her retirement and pension[/QUOTE] Because every other king/queen looked out for their people... I doubt the tudors gave two shits, all they cared about was burning half the population

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849125]Also something I like about UKIP is they are going to have our Monarch be put into use again. From the Wiki page: UKIP fully supports the British Monarchy and its Constitutional role. They oppose disestablishment of Church, and believe the Monarch should remain Defender of the Faith. They would restore public oaths of allegiance to the Monarch, not the State, reflecting the constitutional role of the Monarchy in the UK and the danger of elevating the authority of the government further. UKIP will consider a transfer of part of the Crown Estates back to the Monarchy, in exchange for an end to annual State support. Really sounds interesting to me as I'm all for Queen and country[/QUOTE] holy fuck [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] can you imagine the theoretical fantasy day when ukip get into power and farage meets with the queen and he says "we've done it your majesty. we've finally done it. we have restored your power" and she goes "lol wtf fuck off"

The Queen is reportedly a lefty and probably hates UKIP lol [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/queens-politics-revealed-1355324.html[/url]

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;44849284]I understand that this is your opinion, but that doesn't stop your opinion from being based on either inaccurate or indefensible points. It also doesn't stop me telling you this, and letting you know that your arguments in this thread have been made almost entirely from ignorance. I'm not trying to call you stupid, I'm just saying every argument you've made has either been 'I don't believe those scientists' or 'I can't explain why I just do', neither of which are really all that valid without something to back it up. That's an ignorant argument. I'm not saying you're necessarily ignorant, I'm just saying your argument is.[/QUOTE] I understand what you're saying but I am an extremely skeptical person. I've believed in things fully only to find out they are complete and utter crap, so when the government says we need to curb climate change and increase tax on things with a "carbon footprint" I instantly call out greedy bullshit. I have been disappointed far too many times in life and I'm still a young man, I have also noticed how much lies the government tell us, how they never manage to keep their promises. All I really want is a party to lead this country properly without all the masquerading

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849311]I understand what you're saying but I am an extremely skeptical person. I've believed in things fully only to find out they are complete and utter crap, so when the government says we need to curb climate change and increase tax on things with a "carbon footprint" I instantly call out greedy bullshit. [/QUOTE] but when a rich racist business man starts a political party and says "nah i don't believe in climate change" you're 100% ready to believe everything he says and vote for him? your logic is totally messed up

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44849328]but when a rich racist business man starts a political party and says "nah i don't believe in climate change" you're 100% ready to believe everything he says and vote for him? your logic is totally messed up[/QUOTE] I stopped believing in global warming long before I knew Farage even existed, climate change is just that - The climate changing, as it does

this "i hate the political system so i'm going to vote for ukip" thing is so fucking baffling. you're avoiding the status quo political system by voting for a rich businessman with racist ideas straight out of the 1800s. it's the weirdest and most reversed form of rebellion i can possibly think of

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849311]I understand what you're saying but I am an extremely skeptical person. I've believed in things fully only to find out they are complete and utter crap, so when the government says we need to curb climate change and increase tax on things with a "carbon footprint" I instantly call out greedy bullshit. I have been disappointed far too many times in life and I'm still a young man, I have also noticed how much lies the government tell us, how they never manage to keep their promises. All I really want is a party to lead this country properly without all the masquerading[/QUOTE] lmao You say all this, all the while vehemently defending UKIP. Do you really think half of what UKIP is saying is true? Do you really think, if they got voted in, they'd keep their promises? Apparently your skepticism ends the second you see something you can agree with. That's not skepticism, that's blissful ignorance.

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849338]climate change is a thing and it's just that - The climate changing, as it does[/QUOTE] ... but it's not? and you have no proof? and every argument against it is scientifically backed up and accepted by people like the UN? you really are baffling. i don't get why you've come to the conclusion that political and financial greed would be a reason for supporting climate change theories when climate change policy is obviously detrimental for established industries and power and costs a fuck tonne of money. nothing you've said in this thread makes any sense [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] it's like you've thought having to think about recycling and not driving a shitty inefficient car and feeling guilty about that stuff is too much for you so you've just decided that all science is wrong instead because that's way easier for you to live with

[QUOTE=Taggart;44849340]lmao You say all this, all the while vehemently defending UKIP. Do you really think half of what UKIP is saying is true? Do you really think, if they got voted in, they'd keep their promises? Apparently your skepticism ends the second you see something you can agree with. That's not skepticism, that's blissful ignorance.[/QUOTE] I agree with his immigration policy, everything else I don't care about as he will end up just like all the other parties when the immigration has been dealt with Hence why I said I vote on a party which I think is telling a marginal amount more truth than the rest of them. All bollocks, that's what politics is. We'll just have to found out what kind of a man he really is if he gets into power [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44849355]... but it's not? and you have no proof? and every argument against it is scientifically backed up and accepted by people like the UN? you really are baffling. i don't get why you've come to the conclusion that political and financial greed would be a reason for supporting climate change theories when climate change policy is obviously detrimental for established industries and power and costs a fuck tonne of money. nothing you've said in this thread makes any sense [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] it's like you've thought having to think about recycling and not driving a shitty inefficient car and feeling guilty about that stuff is too much for you so you've just decided that all science is wrong instead because that's way easier for you to live with[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/146138/100-reasons-why-climate-change-is-natural]This is about as much truth as you'll get from someone saying climate change is man made[/url]

[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849361]Hence why I said I vote on a party which I think is telling a marginal amount more truth than the rest of them[/QUOTE] but his 'truths' (i don't know where this comes from because it has been pretty much proven that he is a tax-dodging liar) forms the backbone of a party with racist ideals being led by a man who is obviously racist sorry for the godwin but if hitler had a 100% truthful election campaign but the backbone of it was still "kill jews", would you vote for him on the basis that "ah well at least he's being truthful right?" you're actually mental

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;44849375]but his 'truths' (i don't know where this comes from because it has been pretty much proven that he is a tax-dodging liar) forms the backbone of a party with racist ideals being led by a man who is obviously racist sorry for the godwin but if hitler has a 100% truthful election campaign but the backbone of it was still "kill jews", would you vote for him on the basis that "ah well at least he's being truthful right?" you're actually mental[/QUOTE] All the rich in this country are tax dodging liars lol. Farage isn't exclusive