Nigel Farage widely criticised after being buttmassively buttdestroyed in radio interview until UKIP
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[QUOTE=Cone;44850400]they always go on about bootstraps and making it on your own until they find out that getting a job requires actual competition[/QUOTE]
It's like the builders that complain about their Polish competitors, the idea of actually competing for business seems alien to them
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44848898]
About climate change, it really is just that. Climate change, I read somewhere this happens as a natural cycle of the planets life going from tropical climates to ice ages. Seems to make more sense than some factories melting the planet[/QUOTE]
Morons like you are why untold scores of people will die in future generations, I hope you're aware.
I thought Farage was very poor in this interview, despite usually being able to stand his ground quite well. It frustrates me to see an interviewer talking over the interviewee and being so aggressive, but as no politician is spared from such treatment, Farage should not expect any different.
The thing that has frustrated me the most about the European election campaign is that, despite the huge number of leaflets sent through the letterbox, I still haven't a clue what each party will do if elected to the European Parliament - UKIP included.
[QUOTE=butt2089;44850560]I thought Farage was very poor in this interview, despite usually being able to stand his ground quite well. It frustrates me to see an interviewer talking over the interviewee and being so aggressive, but as no politician is spared from such treatment, Farage should not expect any different.
The thing that has frustrated me the most about the European election campaign is that, despite the huge number of leaflets sent through the letterbox, I still haven't a clue what each party will do if elected to the European Parliament - UKIP included.[/QUOTE]
Well for starters the parties are part of coalitions in the EU parliament. Find out what coalitions they're part of and find out what that coalition wants, really.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849480]I like how the Americans are getting involved in UK politics[/QUOTE]
Oh, shut your gob already. Your argument is utterly bullshit and you're now falling back on incredibly petty maneuvers to try and get away from it.
[QUOTE=joshdasmif;44849361]I agree with his immigration policy, everything else I don't care about as he will end up just like all the other parties when the immigration has been dealt with
Hence why I said I vote on a party which I think is telling a marginal amount more truth than the rest of them.
All bollocks, that's what politics is. We'll just have to found out what kind of a man he really is if he gets into power
[editline]19th May 2014[/editline]
[url=http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/146138/100-reasons-why-climate-change-is-natural]This is about as much truth as you'll get from someone saying climate change is man made[/url][/QUOTE]
You're so stubborn jesus. Like you're so convinced you have to vote for this party that whatever anyone tells you is just going to bounce off your purple and yellow UKIP armor. You've allowed yourself to fall for their lies and their propaganda completely and let it totally overwhelm your sense and that's sad. It's also scary how the UKIP PR machine is doing such a good job on people.
You cannot vote for this party on a single issue. Please, do not do that. Everything else about them is totally damning and destructive and will have a poor effect on YOUR life. You spoke about disappointment with the Conservatives. UKIP economic policy is Conservatives x10.
Your article is dumb by the way.
"Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history."
Um. That sounds low. But considering how long the earth has been around, that's actually a fucking horrifying amount of Carbon. That accounts for [url=http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%2C500%2C000%2C000+*+0.00022&x=0&y=0]990,000 years worth of carbon[/url] in about 100-200 years since the industrialization of Earth. And how much do you think our emissions have accelerated since then? A lot.
Honestly, I only had to read a few lines of that article and the evidence it's using has already convinced me of the opposite of its intention. Like, I hadn't even heard that statistic before. Fuck that's scary.
See, to accept climate change, there's something you have to understand about the scientific community. It's fucking huge. Too big to be paid off, too big to be involved in some coverup and far too well regulated with peer reviewing for something flat out wrong to become the consensus. So when the consensus is that climate change is being exacerbated by man, chances are climate change is being exacerbated by man.
What is actually going through the head of a person that writes an article when they think, 'hey I'm a writer for some shitty newspaper, I probably know better than the scientific community so I'm going to scrape together a load of unrelated crap and use it as evidence to say that they're wrong. Wow I must be smarter than they are, what a bunch of idiots'
EDIT:"Peter Lilley MP said last month that “fewer people in Britain than in any other country believe in the importance of global warming. That is despite the fact that our Government and our political class—predominantly—are more committed to it than their counterparts in any other country in the world”."
What a load of shit. More committed to it than any other country? Complete and utter bull shit, sorry. There is absolutely not a single thing to back this claim up except misplaced patriotism.
[QUOTE=butt2089;44850560]I thought Farage was very poor in this interview, despite usually being able to stand his ground quite well. It frustrates me to see an interviewer talking over the interviewee and being so aggressive, but as no politician is spared from such treatment, Farage should not expect any different.
The thing that has frustrated me the most about the European election campaign is that, despite the huge number of leaflets sent through the letterbox, I still haven't a clue what each party will do if elected to the European Parliament - UKIP included.[/QUOTE]
the green party has a pretty thought provoking EU election manifesto.
theres a [URL="http://issuu.com/lifework/docs/minimaniissuu?e=7496317/7612527"]smaller manifesto[/URL]
and an ADD inducing [URL="http://greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/European%20Manifesto%202014.pdf"]full manifesto[/URL]
Most people don't vote in EU elections on the basis of what a party will actually do in the EU, they vote on the basis of "standing up for Britain" so that's what the parties talk about.
[QUOTE=deltasquid;44850569]Well for starters the parties are part of coalitions in the EU parliament. Find out what coalitions they're part of and find out what that coalition wants, really.[/QUOTE]
It's a good idea but it's not perfect, for example the socialist alliance recently drove the EU to pass strong net neutrality legislation but the UK's Labour broke ranks and voted against it.
[QUOTE=Noss;44849847]UKIP have actually marketed themselves excellently by just focusing on immigration. It's a political issue that gets everybody riled up enough to blindly ignore their other policies.[/QUOTE]
no doubt, anyone i know that brings up ukip always talks about their immigration policy without having any knowledge of the rest
UKIP's policies in general are retarded.
[quote=Policies]• Cut state spending to 1997 levels with loss of two million public sector jobs, replaced by one million new manufacturing jobs and at least another million created because of Ukip's lower tax environment.
• Five-year freeze on immigration for permanent settlement followed by 50,000 annual cap.
• End active promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism.
• Increase spending by 40%, double the size of the Territorial Army and increase total armed forces numbers by 25%.
• Buy three new aircraft carriers and 50 more Lightning fighter jets.
• Arm four new submarines with US nuclear missiles.
• Support coal-fired power and oppose wind farms.
• Stop funding UN's climate change panel.
• Ban schools from showing Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.[/quote]
because what we absolutely need is crazy increase in military spending, a total of 5 aircraft carriers and a ban/suppression of climate change and sociological research.
Watching this UKIP campaign is like watching a trainwreck unfold in slow motion
Worth noting that stuff like the flat tax and defence budget rise are from the 2010 manifesto which was written during a brief period when Farage left the party before returning. Their 2015 manifesto may be quite different now that people are actually paying attention to this stuff. Farage has implied that the flat tax won't be making a return.
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don't vote ukip guys!!![/QUOTE]
Can't even tell whether this is satire any more. I need a fuckin' drink.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;44851120]UKIP's policies in general are retarded.[/QUOTE]
what the [I]fuck[/I]
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;44851120]UKIP's policies in general are retarded.[/QUOTE]
most backwards bullshit that I've ever seen, I had no idea it was actually THAT bad what the fuck
The race issue is always an easy thing to show with any party that wants to restrict immigration. Why has no one brought up that UKIP spend very little time at the European Parliament, and are there for just pocketing the money and going home? Not exactly very revolutionary practice is it?
UK Idiots Party
[QUOTE=Vasili;44845624]I think there is an actual media gang up against UKIP, notice how many of the papers keep referring to UKIPs events as 'car crashes' all of a sudden?[/QUOTE]
Because this is what happens when you take on the political establishment its been happening ever since they looked as if they were in the running because they are taking votes from every party, interestingly, Labour not just the perhaps more typical right wingers
[QUOTE=chedobson;44851624]Because this is what happens when you take on the political establishment its been happening ever since they looked as if they were int he running because they are taking votes from every party, interestingly, Labour not just the perhaps more typical right wingers[/QUOTE]
UKIP to a lot are that alternative Tory party that seems to be more in touch with the voters with the beer drinking, smoking, charisma and policies a lot of people seem to care about. UKIP are that protest populas vote that is undermining the Conservative (easily the most influential on the private sector) majority, its scaring them to such a point that they'll ask their chums in the private media sector to say mean things about them.
That, and a lot of people will vote UKIP in an attempt to severely cripple the Tories power. They don't have a majority as it is, with Scotland being quite a Left stronghold (hence why they have made no real effort to campaign for the pro Union vote).
[QUOTE=chedobson;44851624]Because this is what happens when you take on the political establishment its been happening ever since they looked as if they were in the running because they are taking votes from every party, interestingly, Labour not just the perhaps more typical right wingers[/QUOTE]
they're not "taking on the political establishment" they're a right-wing anti-immigration party that favors vastly increased military spending and is run by an upper class white man. the Greens are twenty times more anti-establishment than them [I]and[/I] they haven't even called anyone a nig-nog
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;44851120]UKIP's policies in general are retarded.[/QUOTE]
This is just disturbing. I mean why do UKIP want to arm new subs with nuclear warheads. Who do they want to nuke?
Lightning jets have been retired since 1988 so I'd like to see them try that one.
[QUOTE=Coffee;44845897]Please don't vote UKIP, they're the reason the UK can't get along with the EU, they fuck up everything in the parliament along with all the other nationalist MEPs and basically shouldn't be in such positions. Yet they are because of idiots like yourself and bigots all around Europe who still believe that the muslamic ray guns are out to dismantle the country.[/QUOTE]
i dont need some american telling me how to vote
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;44851120]UKIP's policies in general are retarded.[/QUOTE]
Holy fuck.
If you went up to anyone in the street right now and asked who policies this seems to model the most they would probably say BNP. That is disgustingly bad.
[QUOTE] Ban schools from showing Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.[/QUOTE]
I haven't watched that documentary, is it that good to be banned
As an Australian, UKIP sounds like a fucking trainwreck that has managed to brainwash tons of people in England
UKIP is a national embarrassment
I can't apologize enough at how retarded they must make us here in the UK look
Yeah tbh after reading a lot on most of the parties in the UK, you guys are fucking screwed
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44855226]UKIP is a national embarrassment
I can't apologize enough at how retarded they must make us here in the UK look[/QUOTE]Its fine, we've got the Tea Party so its not like we're far removed.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44855226]UKIP is a national embarrassment
I can't apologize enough at how retarded they must make us here in the UK look[/QUOTE]
We have Wilders and the PVV.
Sigh.
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