• Trump to Join Titans of Homophobia at Orlando Conference
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[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;50857951]Christianity has this weird complex in which they think that people are always trying to destroy it.[/QUOTE] Maybe somewhat true in America, but not at all as a whole worldwide. Overwhelming majority of Christians and Christian clergy are not overly paranoid.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;50858557]If Hillary were to do the exact same thing, I doubt you'd be singing the same tune.[/QUOTE] If Hillary were to attend an evangelical leaders meeting, I would say the same thing because that's what it is. She would be doing the same thing Trump is doing, which is trying to pander to an audience for votes. And I would have the exact same position if this article was about Hillary instead of Trump, because sensationalism and shitty journalism is the issue, not the candidate. But the truth here is that I wouldn't have to say anything because: 1) There would be 20+ people in the thread making the exact same arguments I'm making here. 2) The thread would have been locked and/or the OP banned for either having an editorialized title and using a blog as a source. I don't like Trump OR Hillary. I'm not a republican, I'm not a democrat. I don't fit in either box. I'm not doing this because "DEFEND TRUMP!". I'm doing this because it's shitty "journalism" and should be called out, no matter which way it leans.
[QUOTE=OvB;50858715]The funny thing about this is: The same thing you use to make other things look bad are the same things they use to make you look bad. It all depends on the perspective. To them, [I]you're[/I] the one in the wrong. We get stuck in a loop and get polarized in our own little pro-this/that camps until everyone ether with you or against you. Middle ground and bi-partisanship are dead in America because everything is a sport now.[/QUOTE] Absolutely. It cuts both ways. I used the pro-life example to showcase the point, however, because I'm assuming most of us here agree with that and I didn't wanna start a fight by using pro-choice like that. If I was a pro-abortion group I wouldn't call myself "How to kill babies", I'd call it "pro-choice." If I was an anti-abortion group I wouldn't call it "blocking women's rights", I'd call it "pro-life". If I was a fundie organization and wanted to attract more public support I wouldn't call my meeting "Dealing with the faggot problem", I'd call it "Rediscovering God."
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;50859914]I don't like Trump OR Hillary. I'm not a republican, I'm not a democrat. I don't fit in either box. I'm not doing this because "DEFEND TRUMP!".[/QUOTE] Well you do have a history of bending over backwards to explain or handwave everything Trump says while not giving Clinton the same treatment so it's not really fair to say you are coming from a neutral standpoint here. [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;50859914]I'm doing this because it's shitty "journalism" and should be called out, no matter which way it leans.[/QUOTE] I've yet to have this shitty journalism explained to me. Monkah whined about it then himself laid out exactly why the original title wasn't sensationalist at all and perfectly accurate, and the current title is just as editorialized as the last one. Fact of the matter is Trump is attending an anti-LGBT rally. The people who say this wasn't accurate (Monkah, OvB) said this themselves and went further to suggest no one should be surprised. Feelings doesn't change facts, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=elfbarf;50857640]b-but trump is pro LGBT![/QUOTE] Who the fuck says this.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;50862637]Who the fuck says this.[/QUOTE] A lot of Trump supporters and apologists.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50858418]I'd say at least 1/3rd of the American population are idiots, no question[/QUOTE] I'd say it's more like 2/3 of Americans are morons: 1/3 being well intentioned, but still morons nonetheless, the other 1/3 (maybe less) of Americans are full blown idiots that are too dumb to live. It's like Gene Wilder once said... [video=youtube;txrikNFX-8E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txrikNFX-8E[/video]
Yknow, I can see why it would seem that gay rights isn't really a big issue anymore since we have the major decision in place and all. But there's still quite a bit to fight for. Like no employment discrimination in all states, or housing discrimination. This isn't the complicated matter of (somehow) wedding cakes. There are still some serious issues. One hits close for home for me, in that I work for a federal contractor (DARPA, NASA, various segments of the DoD) and as such have [I]zero[/I] legal protections against discrimination. The bill was recently up for vote and it caused a bit of ruckus in the Senate when the Republicans made an asinine (and heartbreaking) [URL="https://news.vice.com/article/democrats-shout-shame-as-republicans-overturn-vote-to-prevent-lgbt-discrimination"]manuever[/URL]. This conference may not be dedicated to LGBTQ issues, but I hate to see that religion still has so much power over government officials and that such issues are still ones of contention. I don't want more rights than anyone else, I just want to feel more like everyone else. I want to be able to do simple things like discuss my S/O or dating experiences without feeling at risk or ostracized, or to not have to worry for my job safety because who I choose to spend my life with isn't cool with some old white dudes. I've already been physically assaulted, and this was in the University District of Seattle (supposedly a safe place for LGBTQ folks). So, it really dismays me to see any candidate for any sort of public office involve themselves with these individuals and viewpoints. that's all i got
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