• Turkish Students Create Hydrogen-Powered 1300-MPG Car
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[QUOTE=sltungle;15916304]Wow... my face and my palm literally just met for a second there. It's not often someone says something stupid enough to get me to do that. There's something that covers more than 2/3 of the Earth's surface that is itself 2/3 hydrogen (by composition, not mass). Can you guess what it is?[/QUOTE] As far as I understand, there's three problems with that: One, water consists of strong bonds that prevents them from coming apart efficiently. Two, water is vast, but isn't a renewable resource. Three, as far as I know, it takes a decent amount of energy to grab hydrogen from that water. Where the hell are we going to get said energy? Laugh, but it just seems inefficient to me.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;15916749]As far as I understand, there's three problems with that: One, water consists of strong bonds that prevents them from coming apart efficiently. Two, water is vast, but isn't a renewable resource. Three, as far as I know, it takes a decent amount of energy to grab hydrogen from that water. Where the hell are we going to get said energy? Laugh, but it just seems inefficient to me.[/QUOTE] I believe we don't have the technology to convert large amounts of water into hydrogen efficiently yet, but your second point makes me laugh. What comes out of the exhaust of Hydrogen cars? Think about the answer for a second.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;15916749]As far as I understand, there's three problems with that: One, water consists of strong bonds that prevents them from coming apart efficiently. Two, water is vast, but isn't a renewable resource. Three, as far as I know, it takes a decent amount of energy to grab hydrogen from that water. Where the hell are we going to get said energy? Laugh, but it just seems inefficient to me.[/QUOTE] One and three: Yes, it's hard to get water to break apart, however it's possible, and using another means of generating energy you could separate vast amounts of water into hydrogen and oxygen. To put it into comparison a kettle brings water up to about 100 degrees Celsius. I believe the point at which hydrogen and oxygen separate is 1000 degrees Celsius (I might be off there) which is only ten times hotter (of course water is a god damn bastard and has a high heat capacity :argh:, though). However that's a different method than electrolysis. Two: Of course it's renewable. The used hydrogen is expelled out of the car and combines with oxygen in the air to form water again. It obviously works as there are already commercial hydrogen powered cars out there. For example, Honda has already developed one.
[QUOTE=Garlickeh;15916787]I believe we don't have the technology to convert large amounts of water into hydrogen efficiently yet, but your second point makes me laugh. What comes out of the exhaust of Hydrogen cars? Think about the answer for a second.[/QUOTE] Forget it. It's real late and I'm not thinking my points out.
[QUOTE=Apocalypsox;15911732]You can see why it gets good gas mileage. it weights less than my fucking...Yeah. you get the picture.[/QUOTE] Your fat ass? fuck yeah.
That car reminds me of this: [img]http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/3d0ffeb4-b5d2-4373-939a-e9146384bade/Large%20Image.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=helpiminabox;15913671]It's a feature so that if it ever breaks down, you can just carry it to the local mechanic.[/QUOTE] Order now and receive your free carrying case with compartment for spare engine.
Pff. That thing isn't really that tiny. Have you ever driven by a Lotus Elise? Those things are small! Anyways, electicity is where its at, although most people think batteries take forever to charge, they have it down to sub-45 minutes now, supposedly fairly cheap as well.
[QUOTE=sltungle;15916470]Or nuclear power, or regular fossil fuels until we decide/need to completely replace them.[/QUOTE] Obama won't let the US have any of this type of powers. He wants to stop the dependency on foreign oil, yet we can't drill for our own oil, we can't use nuclear power, we can't do anything that could actually help us at this moment.
It will be destroyed by the US government soon enough.
[QUOTE=Xystus234;15916843]Forget it. It's real late and I'm not thinking my points out.[/QUOTE] yeah sure okay it's always late when idiots go on an argumental rampage
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[QUOTE=sltungle;15916842]One and three: Yes, it's hard to get water to break apart, however it's possible, and using another means of generating energy you could separate vast amounts of water into hydrogen and oxygen. To put it into comparison a kettle brings water up to about 100 degrees Celsius. I believe the point at which hydrogen and oxygen separate is 1000 degrees Celsius (I might be off there) which is only ten times hotter (of course water is a god damn bastard and has a high heat capacity :argh:, though). However that's a different method than electrolysis. Two: Of course it's renewable. The used hydrogen is expelled out of the car and combines with oxygen in the air to form water again. It obviously works as there are already commercial hydrogen powered cars out there. For example, Honda has already developed one.[/QUOTE] The energy required to get water to 1000 degrees would be insane though, as to get to a certain point (atleast for speed) you need 4x the energy for 2x the speed (eg 10mph->20mph)
[QUOTE=Sir M;36447796]The energy required to get water to 1000 degrees would be insane though, as to get to a certain point (atleast for speed) you need 4x the energy for 2x the speed (eg 10mph->20mph)[/QUOTE] Well this topic is SUPER OLD. SEVERAL years old. But the person you replied to didn't know much. Electrolysis easily breaks apart water...
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