Zimmerman's Best Friend Claims He Almost Died The Night He Killed Trayvon Martin - Polidicks

we know he's not innocent he said he's not innocent

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37636844]i do but unfortunately the catchphrase "innocent until proven guilty" ceases to be valid when you admit to killing someone[/QUOTE] We are already aware that he is guilty of killing someone. The question is if he is guilty of murder.

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37636994]We are already aware that he is guilty of killing someone. The question is if he is guilty of murder.[/QUOTE] .. killing someone without proof of a self defense motive is murder

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37637046].. killing someone without proof of a self defense motive is murder[/QUOTE] Yea, in a "justice" system where you are presumed to be guilty by default.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37637255]Yea, in a "justice" system where you are presumed to be guilty by default.[/QUOTE] yeah after you fucking shoot someone to death [editline]12th September 2012[/editline] sorry if this is a radical concept to your freedom-soaked brain but you can't just shoot someone to death and say "i swear it was self defense" with no evidence. i could shoot my friend in his house and put a knife near his corpse and get away with it because you can't prove he didn't stab me lol!! take that justice

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37637331]yeah after you fucking shoot someone to death [editline]12th September 2012[/editline] sorry if this is a radical concept to your freedom-soaked brain but you can't just shoot someone to death and say "i swear it was self defense" with no evidence. i could shoot my friend in his house and put a knife near his corpse and get away with it because you can't prove he didn't stab me lol!! take that justice[/QUOTE] I think "freedom-soaked brain" is one of the worst insults anyone has ever come up with. It's actually more like a compliment, really. I take pride in believing in liberty.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;37637369]I think "freedom-soaked brain" is one of the worst insults anyone has ever come up with. It's actually more like a compliment, really. I take pride in believing in liberty.[/QUOTE] better exit on a joke so you don't have to address how childishly naive your self defense stance is lol

There's always new information whenever this case is mentioned, and EVERYTIME I smell bullshit.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37635951] if we're making guesses as to who started shit, i'm not going to go with "martin was having a bad day and decided to randomly beat the ever loving shit out of a stranger"[/QUOTE] And that is somehow more likely that Zimmerman spiraled out of control than Travon? You yourself said that it would be silly if Travon were to attack zimmerman randomly [quote]he managed to stumble out a free man by telling them martin randomly decided to turn around and assault him, just on a whim [/quote] Stop being bigoted

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37637692]better exit on a joke so you don't have to address how childishly naive your self defense stance is lol[/QUOTE] Better naive than oppressive.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37637820]And that is somehow more likely that Zimmerman spiraled out of control than Travon? You yourself said that it would be silly if Travon were to attack zimmerman randomly Stop being bigoted[/QUOTE] do u know what "bigoted" means

Kopimi is right, the only conclusion we have at the moment is that Zimmerman pleaded guilty. There's nothing to prove it was a matter of self defense, thus the justice system will see it as Zimmerman killed a child in cold blood. Regardless of who's at fault, Zimmerman is going to be taking the brunt of this because he admitted to the murder.

Anybody else think George's friend in the video is a douche? Talking about lie detector tests and bullshit. Personally, I think George should do a couple years in prison, since he did kill a kid, regardless of SYG, and then everyone can shut the hell up about this case. But then everyone will bitch about him going to prison too. This is like Casey Anthony. Never ending bullshit.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37637834]do u know what "bigoted" means[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kopimi;37636718]fact is, zimmerman killed a kid[/QUOTE] Yeah, a 17 year old with football background is a kid. Try minor next time. I only keep tootin' the football thing to denote that he's not a scrawny, defenseless 'kid.' If you're going to make arguments on the internet about a case that none of us can literally do dick all about, and where we're all too dogmatic to accept each others stances (self irony here,) at least use some proper grammar and stop sprawling all over the place. Insults don't really boost a reputation either - but if you don't care about that, I'm not sure what you're trying do here.

god damn it Zimmerman why didn't you just make it a murder suicide I'm [b]still[/b] tired of this shit

[QUOTE=Doom14;37638123]Yeah, a 17 year old with football background is a kid. Try minor next time. I only keep tootin' the football thing to denote that he's not a scrawny, defenseless 'kid.' If you're going to make arguments on the internet about a case that none of us can literally do dick all about, and where we're all too dogmatic to accept each others stances (self irony here,) at least use some proper grammar and stop sprawling all over the place. Insults don't really boost a reputation either - but if you don't care about that, I'm not sure what you're trying do here.[/QUOTE] ah he played football? sorry i didn't know. if thats true im glad hes dead, that monster..

[QUOTE=No Party Hats;37637881]Kopimi is right, the only conclusion we have at the moment is that [B]Zimmerman pleaded guilty[/B]. There's nothing to prove it was a matter of self defense, thus the justice system will see it as Zimmerman killed a child in cold blood. Regardless of who's at fault, Zimmerman is going to be taking the brunt of this because he admitted to the murder.[/QUOTE] Just an FYI: [QUOTE]Zimmerman pleaded not guilty to the charge and is currently out on a $1 million bond while he awaits trial[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;37638186]Just an FYI:[/QUOTE] To the charge of murder? He can plead not guilty to that but claim he killed Trayvon in self-defense, right?

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37636478]hi except there's no evidence nor motive that martin tried to "act like a punk" nor did anyone ever deny there was a struggle so no matter how hard you want to try to be neutral, this dude reported a black teen for "looking suspicious" and ignored the request made by a 9/11 operator to leave him alone so he followed him around with a loaded gun. next time before you try making a vehement and righteously exaggerated post about how nobody can make guesses, read the rest of the conversation so you can understand the context of me "making a guess" its not insignificant because he's walking around with the power to kill a person with ease and that can have some effects on a persons confidence and sense of authority. his testimony that he was innocently walking back to his car isn't worth anything considering there's literally no evidence he actually went back to his car and then we have to assume martin (who was running away at the time of the call) decided to run all the way back to zimmerman and attack him lmao[/QUOTE] If Martin was running *away*, the fight would've never broken out in the first place. The only conclusion is that Martin DID in fact confront him. Unless you're claiming that Zimmerman, a man older and heavier than him, managed to catch up with him and beat him down. Furthermore, if Martin wanted to avoid a confrontation, all he would've had to do is run to his residence(which was two buildings down from where the fight happened - it would've taken a few seconds of sprinting).

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37635951]he is a wannabe cop, vigilante policeman walking around the neighborhood with a loaded gun who called the police in a black teenager for "looking suspicious", then ignored the advice of the 911 operator and continued to follow the boy until a confrontation ensued if we're making guesses as to who started shit, i'm not going to go with "martin was having a bad day and decided to randomly beat the ever loving shit out of a stranger"[/QUOTE] you are unbearable

[QUOTE=Gordy H.;37638359]If Martin was running *away*, the fight would've never broken out in the first place. The only conclusion is that Martin DID in fact confront him. Unless you're claiming that Zimmerman, a man older and heavier than him, managed to catch up with him and beat him down. Furthermore, if Martin wanted to avoid a confrontation, all he would've had to do is run to his residence(which was two buildings down from where the fight happened - it would've taken a few seconds of sprinting).[/QUOTE] I'd like to see you out-run a bullet.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;37638439]I'd like to see you out-run a bullet.[/QUOTE] There was a confrontation and a short fight before the gunshot. That's what's up for debate.

We're still talking about this? I know this is late, but still...

[QUOTE=DEG_fan;37638464]We're still talking about this? I know this is late, but still...[/QUOTE] Well yes the issue hasn't been resolved in court yet so the case is still being discussed.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37638159]ah he played football? sorry i didn't know. if thats true im glad hes dead, that monster..[/QUOTE] Can you please at least attempt to cobble together comprehensible arguments that don't rely on attempting to make other people look silly? I can barely understand you past your lack of punctuation and use of nonexistent words.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37639019]Can you please at least attempt to cobble together comprehensible arguments that don't rely on attempting to make other people look silly? I can barely understand you past your lack of punctuation and use of nonexistent words.[/QUOTE] bit ironic that you typed a post with perfect grammar and punctuation and it still made no sense lol here's the revised edition for people incapable of basic reading skills: "Just because he was a football player doesn't mean anything that happened to him was justified."

[QUOTE=Kopimi;37639064]bit ironic that you typed a post with perfect grammar and punctuation and it still made no sense lol here's the revised edition for people incapable of basic reading skills: "Just because he was a football player doesn't mean anything that happened to him was justified."[/QUOTE] For something that made no sense, you seemed to understand it pretty easily. Anyway, that wasn't what he was saying. What he was saying was that this person was not a helpless child. There's a difference between the media's version of him [t]http://www.sohh.com/img/trayvon-martin-2012-03-20-300x300.jpg[/t] and the current one [t]http://www.wagist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Ax26X.jpg[/t]

kid with fake golden teeth is still a kid

[QUOTE=thisispain;37639215]kid with fake golden teeth is still a kid[/QUOTE] But he's not just a kid, he was a 17 year old football player.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37639203]For something that made no sense, you seemed to understand it pretty easily. Anyway, that wasn't what he was saying. What he was saying was that this person was not a helpless child. There's a difference between the media's version of him [t]http://www.sohh.com/img/trayvon-martin-2012-03-20-300x300.jpg[/t] and the current one [t]http://www.wagist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Ax26X.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] that's not a real black person on my screen is it oh god im scared