"JEWS AND ARABS REFUSE TO BE ENEMIES" MOVEMENT CALLS FOR LOVE, NOT VIOLENCE
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[QUOTE=Explosions;45499640]There is no secular reason why there can't be a 2 state solution. It's explicitly a religious problem.
You could say "nationalism is just a symptom of a problem" or "racism is just a symptom of a problem" or "imperialism is just a symptom" but at that point there is no longer even a problem to identify. The whole "symptom of a problem" is just a bullshit phrase used to exonerate certain ideologies from criticism. The fact of the matter is that religion has made the Israeli-Palestinian problem infinitely worse. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be an issue without religion. But it's far worse because of it.[/QUOTE]
No. Seriously, no.
Israel managed to make peace with Egypt and Jordan, both Muslim Arab nations amazingly enough. Israel also has a large Arab minority and everyone mostly manages to coexist peacefully.
The Israeli Palestinian conflict, like most conflicts, is about nationalities, land and politics.
The two state solution has been accepted by both sides many times over, and the only reason it's not yet a reality is disagreement over some specific core issues like the right of return and ownership of east Jerusalem. Pragmatic enough leaders on both sides could probably easily bridge this gap and end this conflict for good. It's not as impossible as it appears.
Jewish fanatics don't generally call for the deaths of all Arabs like many Islamic fanatics do about Jews.
[QUOTE]Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
'The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.' (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). (Hamas's current accepted charter, article seven [URL]http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp[/URL])[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"O Allah, take your enemies, the enemies of Islam. O Allah, take the Jews, the treacherous aggressors. O Allah, take this profligate, cunning, arrogant band of people. O Allah, they have spread much tyranny and corruption in the land. Pour Your wrath upon them, O our God. ... O Allah, do not spare a single one of them. O Allah, count their numbers, and kill them, down to the very last one." - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_al-Qaradawi"]Yusuf al-Qaradawi[/URL] (sermon given al Al-Jezeera, 2009) ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism[/url])
"Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the [Jews] people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers." - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_al-Qaradawi"]Yusuf al-Qaradawi[/URL] (speach given on Al-Jezeera, 2009) ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism[/url])[/QUOTE]
Those are just a very small portion of the calls for the death of all Jews made by prominent Muslim scholars and religious leaders.
Jewish fanatics around the world also don't tend to riot and attack Muslims like Muslim fanatics are currently doing in France.
[QUOTE]Roger Cukierman, head of the umbrella group Crif that represents French Jewish organisations, said Jews were not just afraid, they were anguished."What's happened in the past few days is terrible. They're shouting 'Death to the Jews' and attacking synagogues. It's completely out of control", he said.
Pro-Palestinian rallies also took place at the weekend in London, Vienna and Berlin, where an Israeli tourist was attacked by demonstrators.
Anti-Semitic slogans were chanted by some protesters in the German capital. Jewish community leaders have spoken of their shock at the "explosion of evil and violent hatred towards Jews". ([URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28402882[/URL])[/QUOTE]
Always look for the helpers.
[QUOTE=TestECull;45498846]A noble effort. Applause worthy effort. But also entirely and utterly futile. So long as two people are alive someone is gonna want someone else dead. IT is basic human nature, as irrational as that may be, and it is here to stay.[/QUOTE]
Don't base your outlook on humanity on TF2 cartoons.
This means people are realizing that what's happening is terrible, it's a good sign of progress, understanding and forgiveness.
Well, that's very heartwarming.
Wow, it's great to see this
[QUOTE=sgman91;45499888]Jewish fanatics don't generally call for the deaths of all Arabs like many Islamic fanatics do about Jews.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/terrifying-tweets-israeli.html"]Boom[/URL]
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My statement was about generalities, as per my inclusion of the word "generally." I made no claim that ALL jewish fanatics don't call for the death of all Arabs as that would be ridiculously and obviously false.
Notice how I quoted a well respected Muslim scholar and a politically powerful Muslim group as evidence for my claim. I also cited public riots happening in quite a few European cities. I really don't think a quoting 20 random tweets would be anywhere near the level of proof necessary to dispute my statement. I also just did a quick twitter search using the given term "ARAVIM" and found one possibly negative tweet after looking through ~100 tweets. The person writing the article must really have put in a lot of effort to find 20.
Also, none of those tweet are religious in nature... I mean, they might be, but they might also just be racially Jewish, not religiously Jewish in nature. Also notice how all of my quotes are clearly religious in nature both because they are made by people/groups that are identified as religious and mention religious themes directly in their actual words.
Wait and see this making the extremist rage even more and prove they hate each other with killing each other even more
[editline]26th July 2014[/editline]
[video=youtube;RVBK4lBGuaU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBK4lBGuaU[/video]
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