• Westboro Baptist Church planning to picket funerals in Connecticut
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[QUOTE=Boxbot219;38847235]So it would be pretty cool if someone could give me a real reason why mass murder would be ok in the case of WBC. So far the only thing I've seen as an argument is dumb ratings and "grr I hope they all die".[/QUOTE] Thank you for proving my point hoodoo.
You know, for how offensive WBC has been and continues to be, I'm surprised that the police still allow them to do these protests knowing full well that they're pretty much just trying to stir up shit. Honestly, I'm convinced they do this so they can sue people, make some free money and spend it all on some kind of dooms day device.
[QUOTE=Valnar;38847461]You can't abuse a right.[/QUOTE] Legally, you can't, no; unless you're the government. But others see using your rights the way the WBC do as abuse. It might not be right to you to view it like that, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.
This makes me want to vomit so hard
[QUOTE=EvilMattress;38847509]Legally, you can't, no; unless you're the government. But others see using your rights the way the WBC do as abuse. It might not be right to you to view it like that, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.[/QUOTE] You can have opinions about anything, that isn't an argument. Saying that you can abuse the your right to protest is like saying you can abuse your right to vote, it makes zero sense.
[QUOTE=Valnar;38847580]You can have opinions about anything, that isn't an argument. Saying that you can abuse the your right to protest is like saying you can abuse your right to vote, it makes zero sense.[/QUOTE] Well the definition of abuse is: "the improper usage or treatment for a bad purpose, often to unfairly or improperly gain benefit..." I view how the WBC treats their constitutional right as abuse because they're using their First Amendment rights as a scapegoat to gain money by suing people that retaliate against them for their egregious acts (not views, because it's been stated before in this thread, most of them probably don't even believe half of the stuff they protest, it's just 'money money money!'); They're not legally abusing it, but they're using it for a "bad purpose," (IE: The purpose stated in the OP) and then you get into morals and ethics of protesting an event like that (the murder of 26 innocent people) and all that jazz. If you really want to debate about whether or not 'abusing' your rights is possible, go start a thread in Mass Debate.
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[QUOTE=paplayer2011;38847795]Is this list true? Just stumbled upon it. [url]http://www.armywtfmoments.com/leaked-wbc-personal-contact-information#.UPYRLKzAHlM[/url][/QUOTE] It had better be. PIZZAS INBOUND!!!
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38847893]It had better be. PIZZAS INBOUND!!![/QUOTE] yeah pizzas that'll teach em [URL="http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2012-01-18/1326902834700.jpg"]at least do something more impressive[/URL]
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Of fucking course they would. I don't think that sentence has the same effect seven pages in, but oh well.
i know i'm super late on this, but i seriously cannot believe how low these people will get.
I still don't understand why this shit is still getting reported, it pretty much fuiels them, they only survive because they now have a cult of personality around them. If people stop publishing news stories about them then they'll lose any power they had, you can totally nullify any effect they have by essentially blue balling them and not giving them a reason to take you to court. If they can't sue you then they lose their money and they can't get to these funerals to protest any more and guess what? NO MORE WBC.
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[URL="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d"]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d[/URL] do this shit
[QUOTE=ajrhug;38848397][URL="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d"]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d[/URL] do this shit[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm sure they won't just change the name or dissolve the group and create another. Look for fuck sake, just ignore them and they'll fucking die out, saves everyone from wasting time to try and get a very specific solution to the problem.
They can also burn in hell.
Instead of shooting up schools, why don't crazed gunmen just kill all the WBC.
[QUOTE=ajrhug;38848397][URL="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d"]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/legally-recognize-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d[/URL] do this shit[/QUOTE] did it
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;38848210]i know i'm super late on this, but i seriously cannot believe how low these people will get.[/QUOTE] seriously if you're willing to torment the families of dead children for your money making schemes you're a fucking monster
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38848423]Yeah I'm sure they won't just change the name or dissolve the group and create another. Look for fuck sake, just ignore them and they'll fucking die out, saves everyone from wasting time to try and get a very specific solution to the problem.[/QUOTE] I'm fairly certain that if the petition passed, and the Government took action, the current and/or future members would be prohibited from engaging in activities such as picketing, regardless of group name.
[QUOTE=Jedi_Rayne;38849055]I'm fairly certain that if the petition passed, and the Government took action, the current and/or future members would be prohibited from engaging in activities such as picketing, regardless of group name.[/QUOTE] I'm 100% that they wouldn't because that's a huge violation of free speech.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38849069]I'm 100% that they wouldn't because that's a huge violation of free speech.[/QUOTE] Hate speech is also a violation of the 1st amendment. And with that, i'm not saying they would be prohibited from picketing, just hate-crime related picketing. It would be no different than a judge telling you that you are no longer allowed to drink after being charged with an alcohol related crime.
[QUOTE=Jedi_Rayne;38849076]Hate speech is also a violation of the 1st amendment. And with that, i'm not saying they would be prohibited from picketing, just hate-crime related picketing. It would be no different than a judge telling you that you are no longer allowed to drink after being charged with an alcohol related crime.[/QUOTE] Then they'll officially change why they picket dude, they'll picket funerals for other reasons. Look, you're not gonna stop them by passing a law, they're lawyers, they'll find a way around it. It's far simpler to just be smart and just fucking ignore them.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38849094]Then they'll officially change why they picket dude, they'll picket funerals for other reasons. Look, you're not gonna stop them by passing a law, they're lawyers, they'll find a way around it. It's far simpler to just be smart and just fucking ignore them.[/QUOTE] Human nature prevents us from ignoring them. It will not happen. And it is far better to do something, than to sit idly by.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38849094]Then they'll officially change why they picket dude, they'll picket funerals for other reasons. Look, you're not gonna stop them by passing a law, they're lawyers, they'll find a way around it. It's far simpler to just be smart and just fucking ignore them.[/QUOTE] they are a small group of lawyers. We have an entire country of lawyers to convince. Just like you can't yell bomb on an airplane you should not be able to do what they're doing.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38849122]they are a small group of lawyers. We have an entire country of lawyers to convince. Just like you can't yell bomb on an airplane you should not be able to do what they're doing.[/QUOTE] I agree what they're doing is shit, but they're only doing it because some cunt always loses their shit and they take them to court and sue them. That's why you have to do your best to ignore them, you starve them of attention, they become irrelevant, they lose their supply of money and can't carry on doing what they're doing.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38849130]I agree what they're doing is shit, but they're only doing it because some cunt always loses their shit and they take them to court and sue them. That's why you have to do your best to ignore them, you starve them of attention, they become irrelevant, they lose their supply of money and can't carry on doing what they're doing.[/QUOTE] there's too many journalists looking for ratings and too many broken hearted people for them to be completely ignored. Which is why they need to be stopped.
[QUOTE=Jedi_Rayne;38849076]Hate speech is also a violation of the 1st amendment. And with that, i'm not saying they would be prohibited from picketing, just hate-crime related picketing. It would be no different than a judge telling you that you are no longer allowed to drink after being charged with an alcohol related crime.[/QUOTE] Hate speech and hate crimes are different. Hate speech is protected under the 1st amendment. Hate crimes aren't because they are a crime that is motived by some sort of hate. [QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38849156]there's too many journalists looking for ratings and too many broken hearted people for them to be completely ignored. Which is why they need to be stopped.[/QUOTE] So a group's rights should be arbitrarily stopped because the media is looking for ratings?
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38849156]there's too many journalists looking for ratings and too many broken hearted people for them to be completely ignored. Which is why they need to be stopped.[/QUOTE] Aye that's wonderful and stuff but the only reason they even do this shit anymore is because people are dumb enough to take a fucking swing at them, it doesn't matter if they get on the news or not, it just matters that folk have the self control to not lay hands on em.
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