[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;47783003]what kind of upload speed would you need to stream at 1080p60fps?[/QUOTE]
Bout 7 megabits for recommended quality and 9 for maximum, 4.5 if you want it to look like shit
[url]https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702?hl=en[/url]
So, not only did they get 60 FPS streams before Twitch, but they have a fully functional HTML5 livestream player before Twitch.
Google is really on the offensive after they lost out on buying Twitch to Amazon, but who knows, maybe this will cause Twitch to finally get its ass in gear and get an HTML5 player going.
Seriously. The faster we all dump Flash, the better, and sites like Twitch only continue to hold us back from doing that.
That being said, I can't see either being particularly streamer friendly, given their measures when it comes to copyrighted music appearing in streams/videos. Not sure who will "win" out in the end though, as Twitch has a pretty well established community, while Youtube is just better on a convenience side (because the majority of people these days are already part of the Google ecosystem in some way).
[QUOTE=J!NX;47773312]I wonder how long until we get 120hz video support and streaming
I really can't wait until high res / high hz monitors are "The norm" for everyone
I hope this is a few years down the road and no more[/QUOTE]
I don't really think they will be, though. Monitors higher than 60hz will definitely be enthusiast grade for a good while, even if you have a monitor that goes higher than 60, you also need hardware that can play stuff at higher than 60 frames unless you want a high hz monitor just for livestreams.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47773312]I wonder how long until we get 120hz video support and streaming
I really can't wait until high res / high hz monitors are "The norm" for everyone
I hope this is a few years down the road and no more[/QUOTE]
Your average consumer will benefit far more from increased screen real estate than a higher refresh rate. 120fps being mainstream beyond more dedicated gamers won't happen for quite a while imo.
While I love 60 FPS for gaming I wasn't expecting to see a massive difference for video.
[QUOTE=Rahu X;47784845]So, not only did they get 60 FPS streams before Twitch, but they have a fully functional HTML5 livestream player before Twitch.
Google is really on the offensive after they lost out on buying Twitch to Amazon, but who knows, maybe this will cause Twitch to finally get its ass in gear and get an HTML5 player going.
Seriously. The faster we all dump Flash, the better, and sites like Twitch only continue to hold us back from doing that.
That being said, I can't see either being particularly streamer friendly, given their measures when it comes to copyrighted music appearing in streams/videos. Not sure who will "win" out in the end though, as Twitch has a pretty well established community, while Youtube is just better on a convenience side (because the majority of people these days are already part of the Google ecosystem in some way).[/QUOTE]
I haven't tried YouTubes livestreaming for a long time so this might be a load of shit. In my past experiences the stream delay has been extremely severe (1 min+) which makes it very very hard to interact with your viewers and this is detrimental to small streamers. Also copyright system makes the streams less enjoyable than most Twitch / Hitbox streams, the majority of people like music on streams (as long as it's done right) and this simply isn't possible on YouTube.
[QUOTE=Rahu X;47784845]So, not only did they get 60 FPS streams before Twitch[/QUOTE]
No, Twitch has had 60fps support for quite a while. Even works on the Android Twitch app.
[editline]25th May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE='KING]THT[WRATH;47785365']While I love 60 FPS for gaming I wasn't expecting to see a massive difference for video.[/QUOTE]
Most video cameras now do 1080p50/60 (and before progressive scan, 50/60fps was still the case in a way).
News and TV shows are often 50/60Hz (Using Hz because fields vs frames is not relevant).
[QUOTE=Warship;47799209]No, Twitch has had 60fps support for quite a while. Even works on the Android Twitch app.
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It's not widely used though because Twitch throws a fit if you try to use a bitrate higher than 3500 Kb/s which just isn't enough for 1080p 60 FPS to not look anything but shit, hell it's not even enough for 1080p 30 FPS with any large amounts of motion going on.
If Twitch upped it's bitrate limit to 9000 Kb/s like YouTube then it would be better. Of course then the issue here is no one not partnered has quality toggles like everyone gets on YouTube and thus people with slower connections can't view the streams anymore.
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