Man shoots self while he shoots (pictures of him)self - Polidicks

[QUOTE=wickedplayer494;48599466]Smith held the gun to his neck and pulled the trigger.[/QUOTE] "accident"

[QUOTE=tom1029;48600472]"accident"[/QUOTE] Could have been a super light trigger. Since clearly he had no experience with guns, accidentally pulling the trigger, if it was really light, is a plausible accident.

[QUOTE=tom1029;48600472]"accident"[/QUOTE] It would be one hell of a way to disguise a suicide.

What the hell is with all these fucking idiots literally killing themselves trying to take selfies?

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48600513]What the hell is with all these fucking idiots literally killing themselves trying to take selfies?[/QUOTE] Trying to get the biggest e-peen

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48600513]What the hell is with all these fucking idiots literally killing themselves trying to take selfies?[/QUOTE] Darwin's glorious return.

[QUOTE=Sonador;48600453] [url]http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2008/12/boy_killed_mom_and_shot_dad_ov.html[/url] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/nathon-brooks-teen-shot-parents-video-games_n_2868805.html[/url] They may be teens, but if they can do it, a kid can do it. Stop posting if you have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Two examples out of how many millions of households where children and firearms are both present? I never said it's impossible but there are other issues going on if a kid wants to kill their parents, especially if it's over something petty like an Xbox being taken away. Out of genuine curiosity, have you ever handled a firearm, taken some sort of safety class or anything?

[QUOTE=Sonador;48600453]They may be teens, but if they can do it, a kid can do it. Stop posting if you have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Dude I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're arguing. First you respond to somebody advocating teaching kids gun safety with "children should NEVER be near guns", and then you respond to me advocating teaching kids gun safety and say "yeah of course, I just meant to always keep them locked up" (as if anyone is arguing against locking up your guns?), but then you immediately imply that teaching a kid that guns kill people is bad because then they'll kill their parents over taking their Xbox. Like, what? What is your point? That guns should be locked up? No shit Sherlock, I don't think a single person in this thread disagrees with that. Get off your high horse because if anybody here doesn't know what they're talking about, it's you.

Wow, just... okay. I mean I never understood this, if you're going to have a gun in your home, MAYBE just MAYBE make sure you tell and teach everyone in the household about the functions and dangers of a weapon? If this guy had just pulled the slide back and taken out the magazine, he'd still be an idiot for aiming a firearm at himself. But at least he wouldn't be dead idiot. "The tragedy is the worst feeling of their lives." And an easily avoided one too. Man, how hard is it to take responsible steps to make sure your loved ones don't accidentally shoot eachother?

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48600681]Wow, just... okay. I mean I never understood this, if you're going to have a gun in your home, MAYBE just MAYBE make sure you tell and teach everyone in the household about the functions and dangers of a weapon? If this guy had just pulled the slide back and taken out the magazine, he'd still be an idiot for aiming a firearm at himself. But at least he wouldn't be dead idiot. "The tragedy is the worst feeling of their lives." And an easily avoided one too. Man, how hard is it to take responsible steps to make sure your loved ones don't accidentally shoot eachother?[/QUOTE] It says they "found" it, I doubt it belonged to a parent or anything, there's no way a 19 year old wouldn't know there was a gun in the home. Sounds like it got ditched outside or something.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;48600638]Dude I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're arguing. First you respond to somebody advocating teaching kids gun safety with "children should NEVER be near guns", and then you respond to me advocating teaching kids gun safety and say "yeah of course, I just meant to always keep them locked up" (as if anyone is arguing against locking up your guns?), but then you immediately imply that teaching a kid that guns kill people is bad because then they'll kill their parents over taking their Xbox. Like, what? What is your point? That guns should be locked up? No shit Sherlock, I don't think a single person in this thread disagrees with that. Get off your high horse because if anybody here doesn't know what they're talking about, it's you.[/QUOTE] lmao my entire argument is that you keep your guns locked up when you have kids in the house, how can you not understand that

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;48600437]You do know the study that made that assertion was debunked so thoroughly when it finally was peer-reviewed that even the author says the number is close to 2 times, right?[/QUOTE] I do now. Noted for future reference. Still, doesn't really change the nature of my statement. If you own a gun, keep it properly secured and make sure everybody in the household is fully trained in gun safety measures. It's common sense of responsible gun ownership.

I think that's the biggest problem is lack of respect for the firearm. It's one of those things where if you can't have it you want it and if you don't know about it you do things with it. The blame here falls mostly on the parents for not having it properly secured and not teaching their son respect for the firearm.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48600949]I do now. Noted for future reference. Still, doesn't really change the nature of my statement. If you own a gun, keep it properly secured and make sure everybody in the household is fully trained in gun safety measures. It's common sense of responsible gun ownership.[/QUOTE] Oh of course, you should be charged with manslaughter if your kids kill someone because you improperly stored your gun and/or didn't teach them about gun safety.

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;48599929]Or you could just show your kid the gun and teach them basic rules such as treat it as if it is loaded.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PrusseLusken;48599943]Or you could just get a gun cabinet because it's an additional step to prevent accidents, suicide, and random theft of your guns?[/QUOTE]Or you could do both??? Also, PrusseLusken, this is the United States. There's no fucking way I'm buying a goddamn safe for my guns, I don't need them "locked up" at all and I shouldn't ever need to do so just to purchase and own. I'm only concerned about theft anyway, and it's kind of hard for some shithead to steal something they don't even know is there.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48599622]A gun in the home is "43 times more likely to be used to kill a member of the household than to kill a criminal intruder." Accidents make up a large percentage of that figure. This isn't a gun control argument, it's a warning: if you have a gun in the house, keep it in a safe place and make sure that everybody in the home knows exactly how to safely handle it. The most dangerous combination is guns left in the open in an environment where people are ignorant about gun safety. If you can't do that, you shouldn't own a gun.[/QUOTE] While I agree with you that gun safety in homes should be focused more on That statistic is incredibly misleading, here have a source and some quotes [url]http://keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2331[/url] "The "43 times" claim was based upon a small-scale study of firearms deaths in King County, Washington (Seattle and Bellevue) covering the period 1978-83. The authors state, "Mortality studies such as ours do not include cases in which burglars or intruders are wounded or frightened away by the use or display of a firearm. Cases in which would-be intruders may have purposely avoided a house known to be armed are also not identified…A complete determination of firearm risks versus benefits would require that these figures be known." "This vital flaw in Kellermann and Reay's paper was demonstrated clearly just six months later, on Dec. 4, 1986 by David Stolinsky and G. Tim Hagen in the same journal (v. 315 n. 23, p. 1483-84), yet these letters have been ignored for fourteen years in favor of the grossly exaggerated figure of the original article. The continual use of the "43 times" figure by groups opposed to the defensive use of firearms suggests the appalling weakness of their argument. But there's more. Included in the "43 times" of Kellermann are 37 suicides, some 86 percent of the alleged total, which have nothing to do with either crime or defensive uses of firearms. Even Kellermann and Reay say clearly "

[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;48599929]Or you could just show your kid the gun and teach them basic rules such as treat it as if it is loaded.[/QUOTE] You can't program children. Kids are told not to talk to strangers, play in the street, run with scissors, etc, see how that works. You gotta be pretty dense to think a kid will just obey because they were told some rules.

[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;48601186]You can't program children. Kids are told not to talk to strangers, play in the street, run with scissors, etc, see how that works. You gotta be pretty dense to think a kid will just obey because they were told some rules.[/QUOTE] I learned about guns when I was 4 or 5. Been shooting at the range on a regular basis ever since, and I'm almost 30. I never hurt anybody and don't intend to. Most kids, if they're raised right, understand right and wrong and won't do dangerous things when shown right from wrong.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;48599901]Exactly. Gun lockers/cabinets should be the bare minimum to own guns in the US, like it is here in Norway. If you can't afford one, you have the wrong hobby.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure most states require you to have a secure location, like a gun locker, to store your gun before you're allowed to even purchase one. But using it is the responsibility of the gun owner.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;48601332]I'm pretty sure most states require you to have a secure location, like a gun locker, to store your gun before you're allowed to even purchase one. But using it is the responsibility of the gun owner.[/QUOTE] It's not prerequisite but it's usually at least a suggestion to have one.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48601199]I learned about guns when I was 4 or 5. Been shooting at the range on a regular basis ever since, and I'm almost 30. I never hurt anybody and don't intend to. Most kids, if they're raised right, understand right and wrong and won't do dangerous things when shown right from wrong.[/QUOTE] Ok? How does this anectdote change anything?

[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;48601383]Ok? How does this anectdote change anything?[/QUOTE] You can't program children, but if they have a decent upbringing, they're not going to do stupid shit like this. (Generally speaking)

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;48601332]I'm pretty sure most states require you to have a secure location, like a gun locker, to store your gun before you're allowed to even purchase one. But using it is the responsibility of the gun owner.[/QUOTE] They have to ask but of course can't check. In my state, anyway.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48600722]It says they "found" it, I doubt it belonged to a parent or anything, there's no way a 19 year old wouldn't know there was a gun in the home. Sounds like it got ditched outside or something.[/QUOTE] How on earth do you just "find" a gun It's not something you drop on the ground and forget like a wallet.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48602132]How on earth do you just "find" a gun It's not something you drop on the ground and forget like a wallet.[/QUOTE] My wife found one in the woods once years and years ago.

[QUOTE=Coyoteze;48602132]How on earth do you just "find" a gun It's not something you drop on the ground and forget like a wallet.[/QUOTE] Murder dude, toss over soundwall, cops catch you, dindu nuffin. It's pretty standard procedure when you're likely to draw heat that you just ditch your gat and steal another later.

[QUOTE=V12US;48600025]This is fortunately a mistake people only make once.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised. Awhile ago there was a motorcyclist around here who ended up in critical condition after trying to pass on a turn in a no-passing zone, he head-on collided with a car. A couple years later, he did the same exact thing, except this turn was on a mountain side. They had to go into the woods down the mountain to find him, he wasn't as lucky that time. Don't underestimate the stupidity of people.