Michael Bloomberg Criticizes Safe Spaces, Gets Booed

[Mr. Scorpio]

[QUOTE=NiandraLades;50250274]Well, I understand what was meant - obviously there's a huge scale of severity when it comes to these subjects

Apologies if I was unclear/ramble-y at all - sometimes struggle to word what I'm thinking :v:[/QUOTE]

I think I understand what you're getting at.

The issue is that it isn't limited to violence or disturbing material. When you have trigger warnings for contrary opinions, that's when it becomes a means to isolate people from alternative perspectives.

[Pilot1215]

Safe spaces and trigger warnings need to be done away with. If words hurt you that bad, you need psychiatric help. How the hell do these children ( I refuse to call them adults) expect to make it in the world? You will never succeed or do anything with your life if every thing offends you to the point you need a safe space or a warning because of your warped mind. No one at college before recent times needed this, and college isn't that much harder than it was just a few years ago. Either grow up or fail in life.

[cliff2]

Real safe spaces do have their use.

The problem is they don't understand what safe spaces really are.

They're supposed to be an area you go to to calm down before you confront your issue. Like when a loud noise sets off ptsd and you start having an anxiety attack. These measures are supposed to be temporary while you are treated for your condition(Which is done through controlled exposure to the trigger). It's not a shield to protect you from the stimulus for eternity. Continuously fleeing or shutting down in the face of the stimulus will grow into a habit and make it harder to treat and in some cases can worsen symptoms.

It's a temporary relief measure, [I]but you still confront the issue afterwards[/I].

[Pilot1215]

[QUOTE=Cliff2;50251161]Real safe spaces do have their use.

The problem is they don't understand what safe spaces really are.

They're supposed to be an area you go to to calm down before you confront your issue. Like when a loud noise sets off ptsd and you start having an anxiety attack. These measures are supposed to be temporary while you are treated for your condition(Which is done through controlled exposure to the trigger). It's not a shield to protect you from the stimulus for eternity. Continuously fleeing or shutting down in the face of the stimulus will grow into a habit and make it harder to treat and in some cases can worsen symptoms.

It's a temporary relief measure, [I]but you still confront the issue afterwards[/I].[/QUOTE]

Now see, I agree with that. There is nothing wrong with having something like that set up either.

[RobL]

[QUOTE=J!NX;50247520]Safe space / trigger warnings are such a awful thing that need to stop existing

I actually find the idea that I'm not allowed to speak my mind more offensive than blocking out certain conversations around certain people

obviously certain jokes shouldn't be said around some people but fucking come on, I'm not 12 years old. if you need a safe space to deal with emotional stress then you're only creating an even greater problem. You're effectively doing the same as bottling anger, and that kind of lifestyle is actually fairly dangerous for your mental well-being.[/QUOTE]

People brain's seem to turn to mush in relation to these things
Recently posted on a link a friend shared on FB: "Lovely, probably should have guessed with schizophrenia being like the third word on this post but could you put schizophrenia/psychosis as a trigger warning in future posts? I'd find it helpful. Thank you! xxx"
How is mentioning schizophrenia in the context of a trigger warning any different to mentioning it in the context of the article? Fucking hell.
On another note, I've personally experienced suicide, depression, etc, and have an anxious personality, but I still can't comprehend how single words can be "triggering". Someone help me out here.

[Kube]

[QUOTE=sgman91;50249407]I really don't get this sentiment. I did a full electrical engineering BS in 4 years taking an average of ~20 units and, while tough, it definitely was't insane. Hell, I even worked part time the first couple years. I really think this whole stress thing is more weakness with our modern generations as opposed to life actually being harder.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sableye;50249450]I think it might have had to do with college students being older in the past, like the current pipeline from HS to college really didn't exist in my grandparents time, both of them didn't enter college until they were in their mid 20s because of the draft and being able to afford to go with a family

Also the stakes were a lot less. Students today are taking on tremendous loans, and now parent+ plans can tie your debt to your parents which is absolutely terrifying

Additionally some degrees have gotten significantly harder, mine for example has had quite a few extras piled on since my professor graduated in the early 90s, it's really hard to finish mine in 4 years, its like 18 credit hours every semester for 4 years

[editline]3rd May 2016[/editline]

Ya the creep of internships as well as high GPA in stem fields is worrisome it's really hard to get that internship if you don't have a high GPA then it's that much harder to land a job without the internship and for what it's worth most jobs don't require nearly as much theoretical understanding that you need in college[/QUOTE]

You're both correct.

Our generation has been made into pudding with the "everyone is a winner!" mentality and we are no longer the steel that the men and women of old used to be.

However, the current education climate that exists forces students to go right from HS to College, and with shit here in the U.S like FAFSA you are forced to rely on your parents to qualify for financial aid or for heavy loans that would take a miracle to pay back. I'm considered a dependent student even though I'm the one paying for my education, my parents haven't paid a dime. I have to be emancipated to be considered independent. Yet my father can't claim me on his tax returns because I'm not a dependent. Our generation is being pinned down with the current system.

Everyone is being funneled into college despite having not really discovered themselves or not being fit for college. I am just taking remedial courses at my local county college because I was a terrible academics students in HS and going full time would be bonkers when I'm more suited to blue collar work. In my senior year my guidance counselor would track me down to check if I make a application to the local county college almost [I]daily[/I].

We have a skills gap when it comes to the trades and white collar jobs and our vocational schools(in my area at least) cater more to high school students and charges post secondaries which is outrageous, we need more technical schools to teach skills. A degree will not get a job, a skill will. But no one wants to learn a skill because HS has conditioned everyone to think blue collar workers are second class citizens and no one wants to be that! Not in America!

I need to stop, I'm just rambling now.