Donetsk now completely encircled, rebels ask for truce - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Conscript;45643245]i've won every debate i've been in ty (at least in the sense people give up), it's gotten to the point I get far more ratings than any replies. feel free to change that.[/QUOTE] from what i've seen, you've actually lost every debate

[QUOTE=Conscript;45643245]i've won every debate i've been in ty. feel free to change that[/QUOTE] on examination, youve gotten butthurt and pm'd me telling me i am a le epic trole everyone on sh knows me and everyone youve ever tangled with here has whipped ur ass in an arguement every time. since i want everyone to share in my laughs, they can see this. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/gV7kxmL.png[/img_thumb] checkmate. now id ask thatd you please allow me and everyone else to dance with me while we laugh at you [video=youtube;iPUmE-tne5U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPUmE-tne5U[/video]

[QUOTE=Jordax;45643297]Why doesn't it surprise me in the slightest that we got actual terrorist sympathizers in Sensationalist Headlines? Seriously, we had North Korea sympathizers, people who advocated using molotovs against the police, what is next? People denying both World Wars?[/QUOTE] Not even off the first page as well :v: I'm convinced some people just want to be the victim, no matter who or what the topic is about.

[QUOTE=Conscript;45643245]i've won every debate i've been in ty (at least in the sense people give up), it's gotten to the point I get far more ratings than any replies. feel free to change that.[/QUOTE] Can I just like, link you to this thread? [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1413933&p=45556794&highlight=#post45556794[/url] Where you got dumbed into oblivion after posting a fishy infographic from a russian site? Did you win that, or was that not a debate? I also wasn't aware that people "win" informal debates by talking until someone else stops talking. Unless there's a debate moderator on Sensationalist headlines who's awarding you victories. Postal, is it you? There's a lot more stuff for me to unpack, but you seem slightly unhinged. I will say this though, you're a disgrace to every person who makes a serious study of communism, socialism, and eastern sphere themes.

[QUOTE=Conscript;45643245]i've won every debate i've been in ty (at least in the sense people give up), it's gotten to the point I get far more ratings than any replies. feel free to change that.[/QUOTE] People throwing their hands up and saying "this dude is just [I]too[/I] retarded" is not winning a debate. Actually persuading people is.

[quote]7:13 PM - conscript: hey 7:13 PM - conscript: ban me plz 7:14 PM - JohnnyMo1: forever? 7:15 PM - conscript: hmm, I guess not, but you might as well. it'l goign to be extended to that anyway 7:15 PM - conscript: er, it's* 7:15 PM - JohnnyMo1: why? 7:15 PM - conscript: because I've basically already crossed a line 7:16 PM - conscript: and I'm tired of the forum 7:16 PM - conscript: don't think there's really any point in trying to get back into it like i used to be xD[/quote] [video=youtube;PHQLQ1Rc_Js]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js[/video]

[QUOTE=Conscript;45643217]Kill yourself please. You're like the most ignorant on this conflict xD [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Trolling, requested perma" - JohnnyMo1))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Today was a good day.

I think that the American Civil War is a pretty good model on how countries should behave after a separatist conflict like this. Once this conflict is over, Ukraine should welcome the people and give them their representation in parliament and other government bodies, the only stipulation being that Donetsk or any other part of Ukraine cannot secede again. Ukraine should also invest in the reconstruction of the war torn areas. Treating the rebels like prisoners in their own country only causes further unrest and does little to ease the situation to much less than a military occupation. The rebels still deserve democratic representation like any other part of Ukraine, as long as they aren't still actively working against the state.

Everyone should have a right to representation in a government, hell this is what started this war. When the EU supporters overthrew the Ukrainian government, they didn't give a shit about the eastern half of their country's wishes, and that's why they revolted. It later changed a bit but that was pretty much the basic reason. Hell, representation in government is part of the reason the EU supporters even protested the Ukrainian Government. However this is all moot because they rebelled and they lost...

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[QUOTE=SexualShark;45643419][video=youtube;PHQLQ1Rc_Js]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js[/video][/QUOTE] Source? [B]EDIT:[/B] I'm an idiot, he already got banned. Where'd you get logs, anyway?

[QUOTE=Splash Attack;45643442]I think that the American Civil War is a pretty good model on how countries should behave after a separatist conflict like this. Once this conflict is over, Ukraine should welcome the people and give them their representation in parliament and other government bodies, the only stipulation being that Donetsk or any other part of Ukraine cannot secede again. Ukraine should also invest in the reconstruction of the war torn areas. Treating the rebels like prisoners in their own country only causes further unrest and does little to ease the situation to much less than a military occupation. The rebels still deserve democratic representation like any other part of Ukraine, as long as they aren't still actively working against the state.[/QUOTE] You know that politicians who served in the Confederacy (Southern Rebellion) were barred from ever holding office or government post again, right? I mean, [I]people[/I] from the region could be in Government, although the entire region remained under strong military occupation for thirty years, with long terms of federally imposed laws that couldn't be repealled and federal military governors. The old governors were all held accountable for leading an [I]armed rebellion.[/I] Which is kind of a serious thing. A few of them were executed.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;45643488]You know that politicians who served in the Confederacy (Southern Rebellion) were barred from ever holding office or government post again, right? I mean, [I]people[/I] from the region could be in Government, although the entire region remained under strong military occupation for thirty years, with long terms of federally imposed laws that couldn't be repealled and federal military governors. The old governors were all held accountable for leading an [I]armed rebellion.[/I] Which is kind of a serious thing. A few of them were executed.[/QUOTE] The point he made still stands. It's much better to Forgive them partially then Punish them completely.

[QUOTE=Riller;45643485]Source? [B]EDIT:[/B] I'm an idiot, he already got banned. Where'd you get logs, anyway?[/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XG4cg1I.png[/img_thumb] one hotpocket keyboard warrior down, five more to go.

[QUOTE=SexualShark;45643555][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/XG4cg1I.png[/img_thumb] one hotpocket keyboard warrior down, five more to go.[/QUOTE] your avatar represents this celebration

God its going to get lonely in the Russian threads without Conscript. It's like North Korean threads without RayHalo, it just doesn't have the same amount of dumbs and disagree's .

[QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;45643634]God its going to get lonely in the Russian threads without Conscript. It's like North Korean threads without RayHalo, it just doesn't have the same amount of dumbs and disagree's .[/QUOTE] we lost noone of value today today was a good day.

[QUOTE=SexualShark;45643673]we lost noone of value today today was a good day.[/QUOTE] [img]http://img.youtube.com/vi/QWfbGGZE07M/hqdefault.jpg[/img] I got to say it was a good day. (I got to say I really hope this doesn't count as an image macro.)

[QUOTE=Crazy Ivan;45643488]You know that politicians who served in the Confederacy (Southern Rebellion) were barred from ever holding office or government post again, right? I mean, [I]people[/I] from the region could be in Government, although the entire region remained under strong military occupation for thirty years, with long terms of federally imposed laws that couldn't be repealled and federal military governors. The old governors were all held accountable for leading an [I]armed rebellion.[/I] Which is kind of a serious thing. A few of them were executed.[/QUOTE] They were legally barred, however under the Johnson administration a lot of the Confederates regained control of the southern states anyways, and by the end of the century the situation for black people in the south was almost as bad as it was before the Civil War as a result of this.

[QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;45643634]God its going to get lonely in the Russian threads without Conscript. It's like North Korean threads without RayHalo, it just doesn't have the same amount of dumbs and disagree's .[/QUOTE] We still have Israeli threads and there's still plenty of meat in those :v: [editline]10th August 2014[/editline] Also he'll probably come back in a year and request an unban like he did before.