Toys R Us agree to stop separating products by gender after pressure from campaign
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[QUOTE=Aidan_088;42133727]This will just make things more confusing for children. Pretending gender roles don't exist is absurd, we should allow young people to identify with whatever gender they chose rather than pretending gender doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
How does it make it more confusing for the children? I guess in a way it gives them more choice which can be confusing but I don't think it'll affect them terribly much. It's not about making more children stray away from the gender roles but rather reduce the social consequences for children who do.
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I'm starting to think the only reason stores like Toys R Us have actively separated genders up untill now is because of the conservative cultural and aged opinion that boys and girls should be kept separate - boys should play with boys and girls should play with girls.
I'm fine with this. They're still selling the same stuff, right? So people, particularly the children themselves, can make their own decisions on what sort of toys they like.
Haha look a boy in the pink aisle!
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[QUOTE=Im Crimson;42133864]I'm fine with this. They're still selling the same stuff, right? So people, particularly the children themselves, can make their own decisions on what sort of toys they like.[/QUOTE]
The pink dresses and Barbie toys are still going to be pink.
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;42133882]Haha look a boy in the pink aisle!
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The pink dresses and Barbie toys are still going to be pink.[/QUOTE]
Back in my day we just threw objects at them
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;42133744]can we please just deport all the daily mail readers please[/QUOTE]
I disagree with a group of people and generalize them by the worst examples, they should all be kicked out.
Welcome to being a stereotypical Daily Mail reader.
Just make some swords and tanks pink and some dresses blue and dolls with weapon accessory's and were all set.
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;42133882]
The pink dresses and Barbie toys are still going to be pink.[/QUOTE]
A child who hasn't been taught that pink is for girls wouldn't be able to identify it as the girl's toys aisle. They should be mixing them up however for this to have any real significance.
I found it more fun joining playing with my sister's barbies with my action man. Making tea and cooking breakfast and driving barbies car around was just more fun than playing football.
Though making spaceships and guns with LEGO can't be beaten.
This is stupid, I took my 7 year old sister into toys r us the other day and knew exactly where to go due to it being set out in gender.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;42133936]I disagree with a group of people and generalize them by the worst examples, they should all be kicked out.
Welcome to being a stereotypical Daily Mail reader.[/QUOTE]
i was going to explain the joke but I decided against it, thanks for doing it for me :)
Why all the boxes, this is a good thing, let the kids choose what they want to play with, dont tell them they cant because of their gender that's dumb.
hell, when i was a kid i wanted to buy some barbie dolls so my action man team could have some female members, and my mum/grandparents just laughed at me.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;42134059]I found it more fun joining playing with my sister's barbies with my action man. Making tea and cooking breakfast and driving barbies car around was just more fun than playing football.[/QUOTE]
Barbie's car was the bomb. So big, with all those little compartments and moving parts.
It's funny because research shows that it's not the parents or 'grown-ups' who put children in their sexes (at least not much, relatively speaking) - it's the children themselves. If, for instance, a boy starts playing with barbies in preschool, he'll be called out on it excessively by his classmates. Girls playing with 'boy toys' is rarely looked down upon, however.
[QUOTE=Chief Martini;42134119]It's funny because research shows that it's not the parents or 'grown-ups' who put children in their sexes (at least not much, relatively speaking) - it's the children themselves. If, for instance, a boy starts playing with barbies in preschool, he'll be called out on it excessively by his classmates. Girls playing with 'boy toys' is rarely looked down upon, however.[/QUOTE]
parents influence their children's decision in calling out people that don't fit in to norms
tl;dr, yes they do
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[QUOTE=Dragoshi1;42133424]That's dumb.
I had more to say, but I didn't know how to word it, so...
That's still dumb.[/QUOTE]
don't worry i understand what it's like having an unreasonable disposition against gender equality
sensationalist headlines gives me enough of an example
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in the mind of the average sensationlist headlines poster every gender equality activist is an inane tumblr poster
[QUOTE=Rossy167;42134155]'The Toy R Us categorizing is clearing an oppressive symbol of the patriarchy that women everywhere are affected by each and every day' [/QUOTE]
lol this isn't even about gender-equality
[QUOTE=Chief Martini;42134119] If, for instance, a boy starts playing with barbies in preschool, he'll be called out on it excessively by his classmates. [/QUOTE]
Guess where those children picked up that barbies are for girls?
You guys act like there is someone standing in the entrance to each of the sections to make sure no boys go in the girls section and vice versa. Nothing is stopping a boy from going over and picking up a doll if he wants to. All this really does is make it more difficult to find certain products, which is dumb.
when i was four i asked a mall santa for an easy bake oven and he told me it was a girl's toy and i cried. i just wanted to make my own cakes and shit man
all the spergs buying princess molestia dolls must have been the main people behind this
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;42134209]Guess where those children picked up that barbies are for girls?[/QUOTE]
He's still kind of right though, most parents aren't actively trying to put their children into gender roles, it's just that they don't mind when their children do put themselves into their gender roles, and most do because of pressure from other children.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42134139]parents influence their children's decision in calling out people that don't fit in to norms
tl;dr, yes they do
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I should've worded differently - it's not just the parents/teachers/adults, but also the children themselves. You're right though - eventually most of it leads back to children's observation of same-sex adults and the rewards/punishments they receive for appropriate/inappropriate gender behavior.
Most children psychologists agree that it's likely children will become less sex-typed in their behavior if their culture becomes less sex-typed. In that regard, this change within Toys R Us could be a positive change towards that direction, [i]if[/i] parents don't just ignore the change and continue to buy the same toys for the same sexes. In the end it's up to the parents, after all.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42134241]He's still kind of right though, most parents aren't actively trying to put their children into gender roles, it's just that they don't mind when their children do put themselves into their gender roles, and most do because of pressure from other children.[/QUOTE]
Mothers usually don't really care - fathers don't really care about their daughters being masculine, while they do care (often a lot, even) if their sons act feminine. Influence from parents isn't as much from pressure as it is from simple observation. A father can say 'sure honey, you can play with action man' but the child can still observe her mother and use her behavior as an example, thus leaning into the female gender type.
[QUOTE][I]Guys separating the toys a girl is most likely going to get and a boy going to get is a horrible thing. Only hell worshippers would think other wise[/I]![/QUOTE]
Why do people think like this.
I'll admit it. I played with my sister's barbies as a kid. And she played with my Legos as well. Play is play for kids and it shouldn't matter what gender the toys are meant for as long as they're having fun. It's not like they care about sexism or gender stereotyping.
you think you've got it bad?
I don't even know what an easy bake oven [I]is[/I]
[QUOTE=TheHydra;42134223]when i was four i asked a mall santa for an easy bake oven and he told me it was a girl's toy and i cried. i just wanted to make my own cakes and shit man[/QUOTE]
i got one and i tried using it and it tasted like shit
[QUOTE=cubis;42134280]I'll admit it. I played with my sister's barbies as a kid. And she played with my Legos as well. Play is play for kids and it shouldn't matter what gender the toys are meant for as long as they're having fun. It's not like they care about sexism or gender stereotyping.[/QUOTE]
They do as long as their examples (adults + other children) act through gender (or rather, show different behaviors in different genders).
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42134241]He's still kind of right though, most parents aren't actively trying to put their children into gender roles, it's just that they don't mind when their children do put themselves into their gender roles, and most do because of pressure from other children.[/QUOTE]
I understand that, but my point is that at some point some of those "other children" who create that pressure got their views on gender roles from their parents (or whatever other adult they may have come into contact with, like the mall Santa mentioned above). No child single-handedly came up with the idea that Barbies are for girls only; some adult with archaic views on gender roles imparted it. Kids bring opinions from home to school, in a manner of speaking.
[QUOTE=smidge146;42134073]This is stupid, I took my 7 year old sister into toys r us the other day and knew exactly where to go due to it being set out in gender.[/QUOTE]
you shouldn't be picking out a toy based on their gender, it should be on what they like, ya monkey!
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