Yay Protectionist trade policy! Benefits everyone except for people who want to buy or sell things...
So buy several copies in the US, buy a plane ticket to Brazil and make profit?
[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;42558212]So buy several copies in the US, buy a plane ticket to Brazil and make profit?[/QUOTE]
whatever you're bringing will get taxed to hell at our customs(unless its less than 50 dollars).
[QUOTE=person11;42557904]Yay Protectionist trade policy! Benefits everyone except for people who want to buy or sell things...[/QUOTE]
more like retarded trade policy actually, since it doesn't fully work anyway, people just get their shit from friends going to the US/europe or through paraguay lol.
also our stupid middle class buys that shit anyway, like they tend to buy anything regardless of price(we can just buy in 1000 instalments! :suicide:), so the fault doesn't lie only with the government, business have noticed that a long time ago, and now love the "brazilian profit"
[url]http://thenextweb.com/la/2012/09/30/from-brazil-cost-brazil-profit-why-electronics-expensive-brazil/[/url]
there was also a case a few years ago about cars being manufactured in brazil which were being exported to mexico, and they were CHEAPER there lol.
We have to protect the national market!!!
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:v:
It is hilarious that they are trying to protect a market that does not exist. There are no non Japanese or American consoles of worth
Guys, the main operating system over there is Windows 98-XP. I have a feeling 98% of them wouldnt care.
[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;42553830]Noooo :(
Meanwhile Xbox Juan is said to launch at R$ 2.500,00, which would be around $1.200,00.
God damn it, I'll probably ask someone who travels to buy me one from the US.[/QUOTE]
One point two hundred thousand dollars, eh? That's not too bad.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42558334]whatever you're bringing will get taxed to hell at our customs(unless its less than 50 dollars).[/QUOTE]
i never had any problems like that
This is like the nonsense with Adobe and their Creative Suite, cheaper to fly to America and back than to buy it in Australia, stupid.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42559675]i never had any problems like that[/QUOTE]
what exactly did you brought? the government made some changes recently, and now things like ipods, cameras and a few other things are exempt from it(consoles aren't through).
[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;42553830]Noooo :(
Meanwhile Xbox Juan is said to launch at R$ 2.500,00, which would be around $1.200,00.
God damn it, I'll probably ask someone who travels to buy me one from the US.[/QUOTE]
i can't stop laughing about "xbox juan"
also I wonder if these prices have anything to do with the wealth distribution in brazil
like forgive me as I know like nothing about economics, but maybe the prices we have here would be too much for most of the population, so they're raising it so the people who can afford it either way will just pay more?
[QUOTE=vagrant;42562957]i can't stop laughing about "xbox juan"
also I wonder if these prices have anything to do with the wealth distribution in brazil
like forgive me as I know like nothing about economics, but maybe the prices we have here would be too much for most of the population, so they're raising it so the people who can afford it either way will just pay more?[/QUOTE]
no, like i said on my previous post, they raise the prices and blame taxes, because the people around here will buy ANYTHING.
the brazilian consumer is unfortunately incredibly stupid on average(through that seems to be improving... slowly), its also a legacy of the dicatorship, where due to absurd inflation, you would get ridiculous raises every month to compensate, and what you got at the beginning of the month would be worhless by the end, so everyone spent everything they had.
the only thing in brazil that you can assign most of the blame of its high prices on taxes are computer parts(video cards specially, since they have an extra tax for some fucked up reason, that other parts don't), and even then, thats only partially true.
Steam though has become much more viable than purchasing retail (console or not) games since its one of the few places where we can buy games without absurd taxes.
Like buying Skyrim for example, on steam we pay less than half than we would by buying retail for ps3/x360.
$1.800,00 for a console, not including games is insane.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;42558921]We have to protect the national market!!!
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Oh man, I remember hearing about that thing a few years back. Didn't it have [sp]the phone version of[/sp] Resident Evil 4 on it?
What the hell is wrong with you brazil?! oh fuck...
This honestly isn't too surprising. Prices for many electronics here in Chile are fucking terrible. You can safely assume that most electronics, especially games are doubled the cost that they are in the US. Me and my wife just went to get Pokemon X for her a few days ago and it cost us $60. Other games such as Call of Duty: Ghosts can sink you a further $74. What's worse is that if you want to import your systems or games via Amazon or some other online retailer you risk having your goods held by customs, because they might assume that you're trying to import at a low cost in order to sell here. If you want to free your goods from customs you'll be facing a $50+ fine. Due to all of this it's only natural that piracy is the most common way to obtain video games. On top of this we just simply don't get as many games as the US, Europe, etc.
Also if you're a PC gamer then you can expect prices on Steam to be hiked up a bit as well. When I was living in the US and a game went on sale, I compared it with my wife's Chilean Steam prices and they were substantially higher. For more information on Steam price discrimination you can check out [URL="http://www.steamprices.com/us"]this website.[/URL] It doesn't show South American prices but it gives you a general idea as to what's going on.
[QUOTE=person11;42559600]It is hilarious that they are trying to protect a market that does not exist. There are no non Japanese or American consoles of worth[/QUOTE]
To be honest, even with tax ups you'd get to 1k USD at most. Compare it to the price of the xbox1 which is roughly one k while still being 100USD more expensive in the US.
In my book this is sony gauging up the price.
Yes, it really is Sony wanting to profit out of the demand. The console's price with all the taxes included would roughly cost around R$ 1.839,54, which is about US$ 847,71.
Sony is all about the gamers, but couldn't care less about how much the consumers are spending. Xbox One will sell much more around here.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42562930]what exactly did you brought? the government made some changes recently, and now things like ipods, cameras and a few other things are exempt from it(consoles aren't through).[/QUOTE]
i did bring a ps3, and so did many of my friends
[QUOTE=Sanjuaro;42563913]This honestly isn't too surprising. Prices for many electronics here in Chile are fucking terrible. You can safely assume that most electronics, especially games are doubled the cost that they are in the US. Me and my wife just went to get Pokemon X for her a few days ago and it cost us $60. Other games such as Call of Duty: Ghosts can sink you a further $74. What's worse is that if you want to import your systems or games via Amazon or some other online retailer you risk having your goods held by customs, because they might assume that you're trying to import at a low cost in order to sell here. If you want to free your goods from customs you'll be facing a $50+ fine. Due to all of this it's only natural that piracy is the most common way to obtain video games. On top of this we just simply don't get as many games as the US, Europe, etc.
Also if you're a PC gamer then you can expect prices on Steam to be hiked up a bit as well. When I was living in the US and a game went on sale, I compared it with my wife's Chilean Steam prices and they were substantially higher. For more information on Steam price discrimination you can check out [URL="http://www.steamprices.com/us"]this website.[/URL] It doesn't show South American prices but it gives you a general idea as to what's going on.[/QUOTE]
And the worst thing is that we have the lowest prices on electronics in South America.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42566004]i did bring a ps3, and so did many of my friends[/QUOTE]
you got lucky, also you probably didn't break the $500 limit a passanger has to buy from airport shops(customs tend to assume even shit you didn't bought on an airport shop is part of it, mostly because they tend not to care much), still if you did pass that limit, you're even luckier.
i know a few people that got taxed on a PS3s.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42566693]you got lucky, also you probably didn't break the $500 limit a passanger has to buy from airport shops(customs tend to assume even shit you didn't bought on an airport shop is part of it, mostly because they tend not to care much), still if you did pass that limit, you're even luckier.
i know a few people that got taxed on a PS3s.[/QUOTE]
i think that problem only occurs if you bring it in the box, i know the tour guides from when i went for a little while back in 2010 advised us to take all electronics out of the box as if they werent bought recently
i brought a years worth of stuff last year though, and i dont even think they looked inside the bags other than with the x ray, unlike the american airports
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42568037]i think that problem only occurs if you bring it in the box, i know the tour guides from when i went for a little while back in 2010 advised us to take all electronics out of the box as if they werent bought recently
i brought a years worth of stuff last year though, and i dont even think they looked inside the bags other than with the x ray, unlike the american airports[/QUOTE]
yes, you can also bypass customs with notebooks you brought by acting as if you bought them in brazil and simply took them with you lol.
customs still tend to keep an eye for things like consoles and notebooks(they used to keep an eye for cameras and apple stuff in general too, but no longer since most of it its exempt).
Here's a video illustrating the problem:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnOjSL2RLwA[/media]
The entire show is very good, I can only recommend it if you're interested in games beyond playing them.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;42576247]Here's a video illustrating the problem:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnOjSL2RLwA[/media]
The entire show is very good, I can only recommend it if you're interested in games beyond playing them.[/QUOTE]
wow, i didn't even knew extra credits had an episode about brazil.
thats almost 100% spot-on, with the exception that he fell into the trap that taxes are entirely to blame, the blame also lies with the companies wanting insane profits like i mentioned before(althrough to be fair he did mentioned at the start, they weren't sure it was 100%), but beside that, its excellent.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;42568037]i think that problem only occurs if you bring it in the box, i know the tour guides from when i went for a little while back in 2010 advised us to take all electronics out of the box as if they werent bought recently
i brought a years worth of stuff last year though, and i dont even think they looked inside the bags other than with the x ray, unlike the american airports[/QUOTE]
I brought a brand new ps3 outside the box, they looked inside the bag and i got no taxes. I have no idea if they opened it in the USA side or BR side though, but they were very mean by twisting everything around inside the bag.
Man, I could finance a whole vacation to Brazil just by hauling several PS4s with me and reselling them.
Wait, so consoles in general cost so much in Brazil because of government-instated import taxes?
Jesus, those must be massive.
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