Potential Male Birth Control Minus the Condoms by 2017
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It's fantastic to see this sort of development, especially concerning birth control that only needs to be taken once. Interesting to see what the side-effects will be, if any
Although I would still feel kinda bad about asking my partner to have his balls poked with a needle :^(
We already have this, it's called a fedora. No injection either.
see when I saw this:
[quote]Potential Male Birth[/quote]
I assumed it was something relating to this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Li0pMI8.png[/IMG]
As long as it remains under the non profit organization, I'm not worried about this being pushed under the rug. People want this and they won't let go of it.
[quote]...unrestricted sexual access...[/quote]
:v:
Condoms suck but I still don't know about injecting something into my balls
This stops cumming though, which is part of the fun!
I wanted to do this since I heard it was a thing.
yes please, do syringe my gonads
[QUOTE=AK'z;45942715]see when I saw this:
I assumed it was something relating to this:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Li0pMI8.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Holy shit he looks young in that
Wow there's that "DONT TOUCH MAH BALLS" sentiment again. It's ok to make women take unnecessary hormones into their bodies (or get surgery done) so you don't have to use a condom but god forbid you have to get a tiny needle injection in the vas deferens (aka not your balls) to keep your woman happy and your life child-free.
Once this is tested if we're still not trying to have kids I'll get it so she doesn't have to be on birth control anymore.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45943637]Wow there's that "DONT TOUCH MAH BALLS" sentiment again. It's ok to make women take unnecessary hormones into their bodies (or get surgery done) so you don't have to use a condom but god forbid you have to get a tiny needle injection in the vas deferens (aka not your balls) to keep your woman happy and your life child-free.
Once this is tested if we're still not trying to have kids I'll get it so she doesn't have to be on birth control anymore.[/QUOTE]
Neat, still not taking a needle to the dick if my girl just takes BC
i wonder what the republican outcry or lack of outcry about it will be, as you know men are responsible enough to use this and preventing sperm isn't an aborticide while all forms of female contraceptives are tantimount to abortions and have to be banned because women are promiscius
[editline]10th September 2014[/editline]
bet the republican religious shitlords won't throw shit about this and all health programs will cover it
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;45943299]This stops cumming though, which is part of the fun![/QUOTE]
It just stops the sperm, though. All the other stuff would still flow freely, right?
Just be gay. Then you don't have to stab your balls.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;45943299]This stops cumming though, which is part of the fun![/QUOTE]
Most of your ejaculate is not made from sperm, and it's only the sperm that comes from the testicles. Most of the rest is contributed by other parts and would still be released.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45943868]There's hormones in [B]everything[/B] nowadays, it's in our food, our medicines, and in some places it's even in the water supply, I don't see what the big deal with birth control pills, it's nothing compared to the shit that makes it's way into most meat and dairy produce nowadays.[/QUOTE]
I have never been more amazed by the lack of sex knowledge on FP. Wow.
Simply put all the options right now are pretty shit. I wonder if maybe this gets worked out for men, a similar thing could be done for females, equivalent to having the tubes tied in that situation?
This would be good for long term relationships, but definitely getting with a guy not sure I would just trust him saying "yeah we don't need a condom I got that injection thing" without some sort of proof :v:
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45943637]Wow there's that "DONT TOUCH MAH BALLS" sentiment again. It's ok to make women take unnecessary hormones into their bodies (or get surgery done) so you don't have to use a condom but god forbid you have to get a tiny needle injection in the vas deferens (aka not your balls) to keep your woman happy and your life child-free.
Once this is tested if we're still not trying to have kids I'll get it so she doesn't have to be on birth control anymore.[/QUOTE]
Sorry where are you getting the idea that anybody in the thread is forcing anybody to do anything?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45946783]Are you going to explain how I'm supposedly wrong or are you just going to be an ass?
I mean you haven't refuted my point at all
To reiterate, the estrogen and other things present in birth control pills (which you are free to quit at any time) is nothing compared to the massive amounts of hormones (such as estrogen) that are present in modern meat and diary produce, it's the primary reason why children are entering puberty at a younger age every decade, it's also responsible for a lot of health issues.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, no. Have you considered why a doctor won't prescribe someone a side of chicken every day, compared to the pill?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45946908]The pill = specifically designed medication with the correct amount of chemicals required to do it's job
Plate of chicken = meat that has a random assortment of hormones, most of which shouldn't be there, at least not in the large quantities present these days[/QUOTE]
There arn't many proven links between the hormones in food and effects on humans, many animal hormones are different to those in humans and have no effects. Many things are simply digested (it's worth remembering that we are normally meant to eat meat, from animals with hormones in them naturally). True also they haven't been proven fully safe in many cases either, but most are negligible amounts or wouldn't even effect us anyway (cow growth hormones for example)
The pill on the other hand has many proven and listed side effects, and although it is true you can stop the pill at any time, there are others which can not be stopped immediately (shot for example) and the effects are far more acute than those in foods. (Besides if you really want to run that line that means that women are generally expected then to not only consume foods with shit hormones in them but to take in even more with BC). There is also a social pressure to take Hormonal birth control, most men don't want to use condoms (and neither do most women really condoms suck for everybody, but its balancing options) and its generally expected that women in the long term will protect themselves from pregnancy, rather than leaving it up to the man to use a condom. (there is also a general distrust of condoms, in the possibility of failing them so even with couples who do use them many choose to use hormonal as well just in case)
I'll give a personal anecdote, in that when my bf and I first started dating his parents tossed him some condoms, but just about everyone gave him some talk which amounted to I should be getting on hormones if we are sticking long term. Likewise from my family (once they begrudgingly got over the idea we would probably be having sex of course). It's simply the accepted standard, and there really isn't all that much choice.
Options for birth control are condoms (which no one likes), Pill/Shot/Implant/IUD hormonals, Copper IUDs (Shitty side effect and not often given to women who haven't had children yet), and tube ties (permanent and not given to anyone who hasnt had a kid yet).
I suppose there are a few others I left out but that's generally because I've not looked into them because they didn't seem like viable options to me for one reason or another (spermicides and cervical caps for example)
Something simple and reversible like this is a fantastic option to be added to that list. But of course we need to wait through human trials to see what lovely side effects this one might pop up with.
Finally fuck
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45947054]I'll give a personal anecdote, in that when my bf and I first started dating his parents tossed him some condoms, but just about everyone gave him some talk which amounted to I should be getting on hormones if we are sticking long term. Likewise from my family (once they begrudgingly got over the idea we would probably be having sex of course). It's simply the accepted standard, and there really isn't all that much choice.
Options for birth control are condoms (which no one likes), Pill/Shot/Implant/IUD hormonals, Copper IUDs (Shitty side effect and not often given to women who haven't had children yet), and tube ties (permanent and not given to anyone who hasnt had a kid yet).
I suppose there are a few others I left out but that's generally because I've not looked into them because they didn't seem like viable options to me for one reason or another (spermicides and cervical caps for example)
Something simple and reversible like this is a fantastic option to be added to that list. But of course we need to wait through human trials to see what lovely side effects this one might pop up with.[/QUOTE]
Even though this solution (if it does pan out) is much easier [B]and safer[/B] than pretty much all feminine birth control methods, you're going to have a hell of a time convincing most men to use it. As I've already said I think that's retarded but that's the nature of men's junk I suppose.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45946783]Are you going to explain how I'm supposedly wrong or are you just going to be an ass?
I mean you haven't refuted my point at all
To reiterate, the estrogen and other things present in birth control pills (which you are free to quit at any time) is nothing compared to the massive amounts of hormones (such as estrogen) that are present in modern meat and diary produce, it's the primary reason why children are entering puberty at a younger age every decade, it's also responsible for a lot of health issues.[/QUOTE]
You do know birth control hormones have a long list of side effects right? And that they're largely undesirable? Feel free to look it up, some of them are not pretty. The sad part is the hormones are still safer than most of the other solutions like IUDs.
[QUOTE=Cuon Alpinus;45944466]Just be gay. Then you don't have to stab your balls.[/QUOTE]
But then you stab your ass.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;45948661]Even though this solution (if it does pan out) is much easier [B]and safer[/B] than pretty much all feminine birth control methods, you're going to have a hell of a time convincing most men to use it. As I've already said I think that's retarded but that's the nature of men's junk I suppose.[/quote]
Aye, I know. Im pretty loath to the idea of getting a doctor anywhere near my parts to get an IUD in too so I can certainly understand the feeling.
But considering a good number of wives some how convince their husbands to get vasectomies still somehow, I dont think it would be impossible.
I'm just going to wait for some pills that just give you lazy sperm for like a month or something.
I'm not stabbing my balls with anything.
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45947054]
The pill on the other hand has many proven and listed side effects, and although it is true you can stop the pill at any time, there are others which can not be stopped immediately (shot for example) and the effects are far more acute than those in foods. (Besides if you really want to run that line that means that women are generally expected then to not only consume foods with shit hormones in them but to take in even more with BC). There is also a social pressure to take Hormonal birth control, most men don't want to use condoms (and neither do most women really condoms suck for everybody, but its balancing options) and its generally expected that women in the long term will protect themselves from pregnancy, rather than leaving it up to the man to use a condom. (there is also a general distrust of condoms, in the possibility of failing them so even with couples who do use them many choose to use hormonal as well just in case)
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I'll admit, that hormones actually have more uses than just pregnancy prevention. A lot of women do get on them because they tend to improve your skin, make the cycle much more comfortable and a few other things.
That said, if you see a woman in her 30s with acne worse than a teenager, it's a safe bet she just went of the pill in order to have kids. I'm not sure I'd expect a guy to willingly undergo a process where someone haa to stick into them.
If they made a pill based solution for men, then well that is a different thing.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;45950279]I'll admit, that hormones actually have more uses than just pregnancy prevention. A lot of women do get on them because they tend to improve your skin, make the cycle much more comfortable and a few other things.
That said, if you see a woman in her 30s with acne worse than a teenager, it's a safe bet she just went of the pill in order to have kids. I'm not sure I'd expect a guy to willingly undergo a process where someone haa to stick into them.
If they made a pill based solution for men, then well that is a different thing.[/QUOTE]
Minimized acne and for some women lighter less painful periods (for others heavier so take with that what you will) are one of the few benefits, and also a common good excuse to get on them early so ya don't have to ask for getting them when you actually decide to get into sex.
Depo Provera in particular has some nice positives, in that for the first little while periods are more often and heavier, but they tapper off to be less and less until after approx a year most women don't have them at all any more. No periods was the best. Unfortunately it's also one of the riskier hormone options, since you can't just get off it immediately and it supposedly causes bone density loss, and in my case made emotionally unstable and destroyed my sex drive.
Pills for men seems like it would be far more difficult (although I think I remember there being some attempts), since rather than preventing a once a month hormone spike you need to constantly prevent sperm production. That and I just don't think most women would feel comfortable trusting a guy (however close they might be to them) to take a daily pill to prevent them getting pregnant, especially since it would probably be a lot more immediate of a return to fertility if a pill was missed.
The hormonal effect on guys would probably be a lot heavier too, at least if it were to work in that way, since if I remember correctly the main hormone in control of sperm production is Testosterone, which lowering the levels of (particularly during puberty years, like when a lot of girls start BC around 15-16) could have some... interesting effects.
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