Guns for christmas? Just what sort of place do they live in?
What a fucking dick. Seriously, what an asshole, if I was one of his siblings, I'd probably punch him in the face.
[editline]6th January 2011[/editline]
I don't think giving him a gun to call his own was that bad so much as giving him full access to it.
[QUOTE=z0rz;27244016]Guns for christmas? Just what sort of place do they live in?[/QUOTE]
ohio aka redneck state
[QUOTE=JDK721;27244147]ohio aka redneck state[/QUOTE]
It's not as bad as in rural Indiana where I live, it's typical of kids to be introduced to hunting at a relatively young age and have their own .22s.
But on topic, this is fucked up. The kid obviously needs help, but I don't think he should end up getting 30+ years in prison or something.
[quote]"He was too young to have a gun," Mike said.[/quote]
No shit, fucking sherlock.
Seriously, how is it normal to buy 10 year old a lethal firearm? I cannot simply comprehend that idiocy.
I was allowed to shoot a .410 shotgun at the age of four. I didn't actually receive a gun until age 8 though. Not before my father absolutely drilled firearm safety into my head. It was another four or so years before he allowed me to go shooting alone. It's not the fact he was a child that he couldn't handle the weapon, it's that he wasn't mature or informed enough.
Obviously we're dealing with an evil genius here.
He had the argument, grabbed his gun and went outside. Outside, he saw through the window that his mom was talking on the phone. He then measured the angle of the piece of metal lying on the ground and shot at it. The bullet ricocheted off the metal, striking his mother in the back of the head.
Ladies and gentlemen this was NOT an "accident".
[QUOTE=Teal Moose;27245065]I was allowed to shoot a .410 shotgun at the age of four. I didn't actually receive a gun until age 8 though. Not before my father absolutely drilled firearm safety into my head. It was another four or so years before he allowed me to go shooting alone. It's not the fact he was a child that he couldn't handle the weapon, it's that he wasn't mature or informed enough.[/QUOTE]
only in america
[QUOTE=Teal Moose;27245065][b]I was allowed to shoot a .410 shotgun at the age of four.[/b] I didn't actually receive a gun until age 8 though. Not before my father absolutely drilled firearm safety into my head. It was another four or so years before he allowed me to go shooting alone. It's not the fact he was a child that he couldn't handle the weapon, it's that he wasn't mature or informed enough.[/QUOTE]
what the deuce
[QUOTE=JDK721;27244147]ohio aka redneck state[/QUOTE]
I got a gun for my birthday when I was like...7 or 8, and I'm Washingtonian, a blue state.
Poor mum. I'd be alright if guns were in my house, but only if they were used safely and locked away at all times. Sadly this probably wasn't put into effect in that household and well, you can see the consequences now...
.22 rifle: good present
.22 rifle+bullets:bad present
[QUOTE=JDK721;27245344]only in america[/QUOTE]
dumb post
[QUOTE=Sharp;27246631]dumb post[/QUOTE]
You do realize that this is JDK you're looking at?
I've never seen him post a good post in all my days. Come to mention it, I was quite surprised when he got unbanned.
[QUOTE=Snuffy;27243742]More like ten, angry, unsupervised and poorly versed in proper gun safety. I went shooting with my family when I was around ten and I did just fine because of the extensive safety lessons my father gave me. A gun is a tool, and should be treated as one; if you don't know how to use one properly, you are a danger to yourself and those around you. Don't blame the gun, blame the parenting.[/QUOTE]
Well anger was involved here. Anger can make you do stuff without one thought of the outcome of your actions, especially when you're young.
[editline]7th January 2011[/editline]
I still don't support letting children use guns.
Jesus, 10 year olds should not have the feeling when angry to shoot at another humans bodyparts.
Just because he's 10 doesn't mean he can't be tried as an adult, they do it all the time
[QUOTE=TheTalon;27213638]It doesn't matter. A bullet is a bullet. .22's travel anywhere from 1100 Feet per second to over 1700, and for a piece of lead that's lethal, It'll go through a human body every time, it'll cause damage to internal organs, it'll even penetrate the skull... the same as any other bullet. There are some cases where a .22 round gets stuck in the skull, if it happens to be the hardest part of the skull.... But there's also cases where larger caliber bullets go right through the head, between the two halves of the brain not killing the victim[/QUOTE]
Injuries are survivable, instant death from shock is not. A .22 can easily cause a critical injury, but it is unlikely it will kill you instantaneously due to it's very low kinetic energy, so most of the time there is an opportunity for medical treatment. They leave small and manageable wounds.
She probably got hit in a crucial area and died while the ambulance was coming.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;27248184]Injuries as survivable, instant death from shock is not. A .22 can easily cause a critical injury, but it is unlikely it will kill you instantaneously due to it's very low kinetic energy, so most of the time there is an opportunity for medical treatment. They leave small and manageable wounds.[/QUOTE]
Sort of like the old stories I've heard of cops shooting a small man in a critical zone and having the dude continue to charge and shooting a big guy in a non critical area and having him drop to the ground instantly.
[QUOTE=torero;27190393]Who gives their 10-year-old son a rifle?
I mean, seriously.[/QUOTE]
Henry Repeating Arms Co.
[url]http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-minibolt.cfm[/url]
Although, they are a great piece of american and arms history. But marketing guns to children is a bit off.
[QUOTE=jjsullivan;27249267]Henry Repeating Arms Co.
[url]http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-minibolt.cfm[/url]
Although, they are a great piece of american and arms history. But marketing guns to children is a bit off.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Four years ago I purchased a Henry .22 bolt rifle for my older son, Warren, when he was age 4. He has now passed it down to his younger brother, Wallace age 3.5, who is just getting started shooting.[/quote]
:geno:
[QUOTE=TheTalon;27248080]Just because he's 10 doesn't mean he can't be tried as an adult, they do it all the time[/QUOTE]
10 is the minimum age. And they don't do it all the time, because it's known The Supreme Court would never uphold the conviction except in very rare circumstances.
I hope this kid manages to go into a state of depression and end his own life.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;27252440]I hope this kid manages to go into a state of depression and end his own life.[/QUOTE]
You're a kind fellah aren't you?
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27251582]:geno:[/QUOTE]
What? As long as the child is taught safety and has the gun kept away from him except when shooting there isn't a problem.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27252803]What? As long as the child is taught safety and has the gun kept away from him except when shooting there isn't a problem.[/QUOTE]
3 years old
really
we don't let 3-year-olds play with certain toys, let alone firearms
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27253602]3 years old
really
we don't let 3-year-olds play with certain toys, let alone firearms[/QUOTE]
3, yes, 4 I can see.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27253663]3, yes, 4 I can see.[/QUOTE]
we're talking about kids young enough that they're not even in school and you want to hand them rifles
i'd say wait until their balls drop
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27253920]we're talking about kids young enough that they're not even in school and you want to hand them rifles
i'd say wait until their balls drop[/QUOTE]
You can teach a kid safety at that age. Under very close supervision with a good parent I would say yea, they can handle it.
Although that's different parenting. I personally would never do it, in fact I would be reluctant to let my kids shoot a gun anyways unless they had a serious interest in it, but I couldn't care what some other parent does as long as he does it right.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27253945]You can teach a kid safety at that age. Under very close supervision with a good parent I would say yea, they can handle it.
Although that's different parenting. I personally would never do it, in fact I would be reluctant to let my kids shoot a gun anyways unless they had a serious interest in it, but I couldn't care what some other parent does as long as he does it right.[/QUOTE]
would you be comfortable with a 4-year-old operating a gas-engined vehicle?
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