New drug appears in Russia, eats away at flesh of users; causes them to literally rot to death - Polidicks

This would be worse than death. :ohdear:

You reap what you sow. If you take flesh melting injections, your complains about flesh-melting won't get my sympathy. What were they thinking? "I thought the flesh-melting stuff wouldn't melt my flesh"? Or "I'm an addict, but I thought I'd quit the flesh-melting heroine before it melts my flesh"? Sure, tread them, letting them run around with their crippeled bodies for the rest of their lives should be enough of a reminder not to take flesh-melting crap. The real tragedy is that there is nothing to be gained in this matter. The Junkies will just go back to being junkies, even more so to get over the tragedy of being crippeled and all that will have happened is that they occupied the hospitals of actually sick people. Like, say someone who isn't suffering from flesh-melting because he took flesh-melting injections.

itt we assume that everyone is a spoiled rich kid who can afford clean drugs and that people choose to take krokodil

What were they thinking when they made this?

[QUOTE=Harry3;30657027]Might be late but this video is properly disturbing Highly NSFW: [url]http://morrisonworldnews.com/?p=51494[/url][/QUOTE] From the article: [quote]Irreversible consequences to the human body include visceral, cardiovascular system, [b]brain damage[/b], and immune system destruction.[/quote] Russian zombies incomming

[QUOTE=adam1172;30659066]What were they thinking when they made this?[/QUOTE] "Oh sweet, it's like heroin but cheaper" [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Tobba;30659213]From the article: Russian zombies incomming[/QUOTE] It's like in stalker

[QUOTE=Sanius;30658541]itt we assume that everyone is a spoiled rich kid who can afford clean drugs and that people choose to take krokodil[/QUOTE] Mh, sounds like a good thing. It makes your flesh melt, but hey, you can get high on it and its cheap. Take my money, I'll cross my fingers not to get my flesh molten from the flesh-melting injections. Seriously, no-one deserves to rot alive, but if you do so because you took a flesh-melting shot by choice my pitty is limited. I just hope, they don't occupy the beds of actually sick people. like cancer. Provided they didn't inject themselfes with cancer shots.

[QUOTE=Sanius;30658541]itt we assume that everyone is a spoiled rich kid who can afford clean drugs and that people choose to take krokodil[/QUOTE] itt sanius rates everyone dumb cause he can't formulate a reasonable argument other than insisting recreational drugs are essential to life and everyone who uses it have no choice whatsoever.

Eye bleach please! :gonk:

[QUOTE=Sanius;30658541]itt we assume that everyone is a spoiled rich kid who can afford clean drugs and that people choose to take krokodil[/QUOTE] Some people can chose krokodil without knowing its side effects you know. Still chosing. Many people aren't forced into meth, people are more stupid, careless and ignorant than you think. Also, you seem to enjoy ghost rating with some pretty silly and assumptious nature.

You get what you pay for

[QUOTE=H4ngman;30659792]Mh, sounds like a good thing. It makes your flesh melt, but hey, you can get high on it and its cheap. Take my money, I'll cross my fingers not to get my flesh molten from the flesh-melting injections. Seriously, no-one deserves to rot alive, but if you do so because you took a flesh-melting shot by choice my pitty is limited. I just hope, they don't occupy the beds of actually sick people. like cancer. Provided they didn't inject themselfes with cancer shots.[/QUOTE] It's the addiction that make them do that. If affects them on both a physiological and psychological manner making their bodies and mind crave it horribly. Their bodies are in pain with out strong opiates. But here, let Wikipedia explain: [quote]Physical dependence can manifest itself in the appearance of both physical and psychological symptoms but which are caused by physiological adaptions in the central nervous system and the brain due to chronic exposure to a substance. Symptoms which may be experienced during withdrawal or reduction in dosage include increased heart rate and/or blood pressure, sweating, and tremors. More serious withdrawal symptoms such as confusion, seizures, and visual hallucinations indicate a serious emergency and the need for immediate medical care. Sedative hypnotic drugs such as alcohol, benzodiazepines, and barbiturates are the only commonly available substances that can be fatal in withdrawal due to their propensity to induce withdrawal convulsions. Abrupt withdrawal from other drugs, such as opioids can cause an extremely physiologically and psychologically painful withdrawal that is very rarely fatal in patients of general good health and with medical treatment, but is more often fatal in patients with weakened cardiovascular systems; toxicity is generally caused by the often-extreme increases in heart rate and blood pressure (which can be treated with clonidine), or due to arrhythmia due to electrolyte imbalance caused by the inability to eat, and constant diarrhea and vomiting (which can be treated with loperamide and ondansetron respectively) associated with acute opioid withdrawal, especially in longer-acting substances where the diarrhea and emesis can continue unabated for weeks, although life-threatening complications are extremely rare, and nearly non-existent with proper medical management. Dependence itself and chronic intoxication on psychostimulants can cause mild-to-moderate neurotoxic effects due to hyperthermia and generation of free radicals.;[4] this is treated with discontinuation; life-threatening complications are nonexistent.[/quote] Not everyone has the sheer power of will to combat addiction (This is also frightfully apparent in alcoholics), which is why broke heroin addicts have gone over to Krokodil. .

[b]It's. Their. Fault. For. Using. It.[/b] Nobody else, unless you were forced to use drugs, your addiction is your fault, no one elses.

nobody makes a conscious choice to use krokodil. the only people who use it are those who are already addicted to opiates

[QUOTE=Sanius;30660476]nobody makes a conscious choice to use krokodil. the only people who use it are those who are already addicted to opiates[/QUOTE] they made the conscious choice to use heroin in which they got addicted to the point they resort to a cheaper but more dangerous alternative do people face consequences for their actions in your reality sanius, or do they just get rated dumb?

am I arguing with a soccer mom?

am I arguing with a brick wall that justifies shit like this which makes drug liberalization movement a lot harder to progress?

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;30660509]they made the conscious choice to use heroin in which they got addicted to the point they resort to a cheaper but more dangerous alternative do people face consequences for their actions in your reality sanius, or do they just get rated dumb?[/QUOTE] It's their own fault for getting addicted for alcohol. Lets not help them and instead destroy their morale even more so they die using their drug. Society ahoy.

[QUOTE=johan_sm;30660586]It's their own fault for getting addicted for alcohol. Lets not help them and instead destroy their morale even more so they die using their drug. Society ahoy.[/QUOTE] except i'm not arguing we shouldn't help them, i'm arguing this was a stupid move by stupid people, and saying it's not their fault makes us look like idiotic sheeps with no choice in our lives.

[QUOTE=johan_sm;30660586]It's their own fault for getting addicted for alcohol. Lets not help them and instead destroy their morale even more so they die using their drug. Society ahoy.[/QUOTE] Alcoholics are already demonised while the regular, copious consumption of alcohol isn't. I might be beaten up by a chronic alcoholic but I will never be stabbed by a weed user yet the latter is stigmatized to some weird extremes. Strange world we live in. [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=lolwutdude;30660616]except i'm not arguing we shouldn't help them, i'm arguing this was a stupid move by stupid people, and saying it's not their fault makes us look like idiotic sheeps with no choice in our lives.[/QUOTE] Except they had no choice. Running out of money, losing support of their friends and family, crippling addiction to a powerful opiate whose rehab process they know nothing of while their bodies screamed for more. Then comes the demon in savior's clothing and they embrace him with all they have. It's cheap, it's makes the pain go away and is 8 times more potent than morphine. Yet they overlooked the long-term ramifications due to their addiction. So yes, the people who take Krokodil had no choice. Like I said before some people don't have the power of will to combat this and I am assuming that these are poorer people with little education about drugs apart from the propaganda that is slurred out. That same preprogramming causes society to cast them out onto the fringes and forget them until something terrible like Krokodil comes along.

It's no wonder drugs are so hard to legalize nowadays, the anti-drug group has all the ammunition they need, and we're providing it. Instead of condemning and agreeing this kind of shit is stupid, people go around and absolving them of responsibility saying they're addicted and it's hard to get off, making the rest of us look like sheeps that can't decide for ourselves, and the drugs are direct result of it.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;30660829]It's no wonder drugs are so hard to legalize nowadays, the anti-drug group has all the ammunition they need, and we're providing it. Instead of condemning and agreeing this kind of shit is stupid, people go around and absolving them of responsibility saying they're addicted and it's hard to get off, making the rest of us look like sheeps that can't decide for ourselves, and the drugs are direct result of it.[/QUOTE] This is a direct consequence of the anti-drug policies. Marijuana is a bigger killer than tobacco. Heroin will kill you. MDMA causes holes in your brain. LSD stays in your spine forever. Because of all this social stigma that surrounds drugs people will outright reject learning anything about drugs and will also reject anyone associated with them. This cause the people with addictions to lose support, especially in countries where the government does not provide any. This drives them to ever more destructive habits. And that's how Krokodil was made.

Natural selection right there

[QUOTE=PunchedInFac;30660961]This is a direct consequence of the anti-drug policies. Marijuana is a bigger killer than tobacco. Heroin will kill you. MDMA causes holes in your brain. LSD stays in your spine forever. Because of all this social stigma that surrounds drugs people will outright reject learning anything about drugs and will also reject anyone associated with them. This cause the people with addictions to lose support, especially in countries where the government does not provide any. This drives them to ever more destructive habits. And that's how Krokodil was made.[/QUOTE] It's also a direct result of pure stupidity and ignorance, you'd think if you're going to put something inside your body that alters the state of your conscious, you're going spend few minutes looking up facts and warnings. Makes us look like childish idiots that'll do anything to get high.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;30661084]It's also a direct result of pure stupidity and ignorance, you'd think if you're going to put something inside your body that alters the state of your conscious, you're going spend few minutes looking up facts and warnings. Makes us look like childish idiots that'll do anything to get high.[/QUOTE] Your average layman probably got his/her information from friends, coworkers or finally gave in due to all the stress he/she might have faced. Heroin is usually a drug used by people to escape the tiring everyday life that they have which is why it is common in the lower classes of society. Good information on drugs is actually hard to get if you don't know where to look. Not everyone knows erowid or the various drug discussion forums on the internet.

The picture... Is completely surreal. I mean, abso-fucking-lutely not right.

[QUOTE=lolwutdude;30660829]It's no wonder drugs are so hard to legalize nowadays, the anti-drug group has all the ammunition they need, and we're providing it. Instead of condemning and agreeing this kind of shit is stupid, people go around and absolving them of responsibility saying they're addicted and it's hard to get off, making the rest of us look like sheeps that can't decide for ourselves, and the drugs are direct result of it.[/QUOTE] It's their choice to start a heroin habit, yes, no one is denying that - though you do ignore the fact that sheer bleakness of their lives pushes them towards drugs as a means of gaining some kind of pleasure. However, it's not their choice to move from heroin to krokodil, that's a sheer act of desperation driven by the pain of heroin withdrawal. I'll remind you that by 'hard to get off,' what you mean is 30 days of agonising and possibly fatal withdrawal. [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=UberMunchkin;30660877]Actually, does anyone else think that'd be amazing to have (Get rid of pain, infections, rotting flesh ect ect)[/QUOTE] You intend to get rid of infections by having gaping holes in your flesh? Really? [editline]23rd June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AtomiCasd;30661004]Natural selection right there[/QUOTE] That's not how natural selection works.

Stop quoting the fucking image.

How do people even find out how to make stuff like this?

[QUOTE=Fiskepudding;30661551]How do people even find out how to make stuff like this?[/QUOTE] Chemistry. It wasn't some heroin addict who discovered the formula. It's also common sense that cooking something that contains X has a large change of producing Y