Active shooter in Colorado - Polidicks

[QUOTE=-nesto-;49199652]According to CNN he ended up in PP after the shooting and it sounds like he lured police to the neighboring shopping center and they think he's targeting cops since, other than 1 civie, he's shot 4-7 officers. He could be a sovereign citizen type or even BLM. It doesn't sound like PP was the target at this time.[/QUOTE] There is also a bank next door, I've heard. An extremist attacking Planned Parenthood is a possible scenario, but not enough information yet as it seems like he was moving around.

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;49199009]Why have we stopped feverishly speculating about this just because we aren't getting new information? Do we think we're better than network news?[/QUOTE] Because we can't start using this to bash each others' politics until we know what the shooter's motive was and how many bullets his gun could hold.

Police say it did start at the Planned Parenthood.

[QUOTE=axelord157;49199111]Nothing screams pro-life like putting a couple rounds in some poor, uninvolved individuals.[/QUOTE] Pro fetus, not pro life, duh.

[QUOTE=DJ999;49199502]Apparently shooter posted on /r9k/ [url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU2EUQzUAAA3G0l.png:large[/url][/QUOTE] Lol the picture is Sam Hyde from ThanksComputer

It's pretty funny how polarized everything is now. people are so quick to jump this into the issues of "white christian males with guns" and comparing it even to the refugee crisis or terrorism in general. People who say not to generalize one thing are so quick to generalize another. Why does everything have weird double standards? Gee, it's almost like the media are trying to rile up shit storms from every angle.

Er... if he's most likely targeting police, why would everyone be thinking he's targeting PP? He didn't set fire to it or fire a barrage of rounds into the building did he? I don't know... I think it's safe to assume that he could perhaps not be an extremist right-winger pro-lifer or whatever. I honestly don't understand why people are getting shut down for not assuming he is without any further details. If the shooting started at a Taco Bell, would we all think he has a huge beef with Americanized Mexican food?

[QUOTE=Robman8908;49199892]Er... if he's most likely targeting police, why would everyone be thinking he's targeting PP? He didn't set fire to it or fire a barrage of rounds into the building did he? I don't know... I think it's safe to assume that he could perhaps not be an extremist right-winger pro-lifer or whatever. I honestly don't understand why people are getting shut down for not assuming he is without any further details. If the shooting started at a Taco Bell, would we all think he has a huge beef with Americanized Mexican food?[/QUOTE] Come on, Taco Bell has no political qualities. Planned Parenthood does. I'm not saying that the shooting is definitely politically motivated, but it's a strong possibility.

[QUOTE=OvB;49199766]Police say it did start at the Planned Parenthood.[/QUOTE]Then it's definitely one of those "Army of God" types, they're completely fucking bonkers and always have been. So has anyone been killed? I'm reading all I can and it looks like people have just been injured so far, I hope that doesn't change. From what I'm reading it looks like the guy has mostly been shooting it out with police.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49199918]Then it's definitely one of those "Army of God" types, they're completely fucking bonkers and always have been. So has anyone been killed? I'm reading all I can and it looks like people have just been injured so far, I hope that doesn't change. From what I'm reading it looks like the guy has mostly been shooting it out with police.[/QUOTE] We don't really know exactly who is doing the shooting and why. It's possible they could be either an Islamic or Christian extremist or even just a deranged psychopath. From what I saw they specified that four officers had been shot and nine individuals. That might mean that five civilians are injured.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;49199892]Er... if he's most likely targeting police, why would everyone be thinking he's targeting PP? He didn't set fire to it or fire a barrage of rounds into the building did he? I don't know... I think it's safe to assume that he could perhaps not be an extremist right-winger pro-lifer or whatever. I honestly don't understand why people are getting shut down for not assuming he is without any further details. If the shooting started at a Taco Bell, would we all think he has a huge beef with Americanized Mexican food?[/QUOTE] Maybe the shooter is a Black Lives Matter activist who's upset that black pregnancies are aborted more often than white ones.

Apparently it was a bank robbery gone wrong.

[QUOTE=dragon1972;49199906]Come on, Taco Bell has no political qualities. Planned Parenthood does. I'm not saying that the shooting is definitely politically motivated, but it's a strong possibility.[/QUOTE] I'm not right-wing or left-wing, like to sit safely in the middle and observe both sides most of the time... I'm just saying that we shouldn't speculate in case this is a rare occurrence of wrong place/wrong time and we all sit here with our dicks in our hands. Not trying to start shit, I just don't think we should all be so adamant to start pointing fingers at different political beliefs to start a huge flame war that'll last 20 pages and end with ~10 members being perma'd for losing their cool.

It's smart to not jump to conclusions in every situation like this. You make an ass if yourself when you say it must be X then go on a tirade about how X is awful then it turns out to be Y.

[QUOTE=OvB;49200001]It's smart to not jump to conclusions in every situation like this. You make an ass if yourself when you say it must be X then go on a tirade about how X is awful then it turns out to be Y.[/QUOTE] If everyone stuck to that example, I think SH would be a much less stressful environment.

[QUOTE=dragon1972;49199936]We don't really know exactly who is doing the shooting and why. It's possible they could be either an Islamic or Christian extremist or even just a deranged psychopath. From what I saw they specified that four officers had been shot and nine individuals. That might mean that five civilians are injured.[/QUOTE]Man, why [I]else[/I] would it start there? I mean come on the one demographic in this country that has been thoroughly at odds with Planned Parenthood and extremely vocal about it is right-wing Christians. Yeah it's a possibility this could be a political stunt about how Tibet needs to be free but that's [I]highly[/I] unlikely. It's pretty safe to assume this isn't anything other than some turbo anti-abortion shit until proven otherwise, but in the event that it isn't then [I]oh well[/I] I guess I was wrong; it's not the end of the world.

Oh thank Christ, he surrendered. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE]Suspect is detained and has stated to police that he was alone /u/manicmuggle[/QUOTE] Holy shit, the fact that he was alone makes this all the more scary. How can one person be responsible for so many deaths at a time...

[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;49199640]People seem to forget one of the most deadly bombings committed in the United States was by a white Christian named Timothy McVeigh[/QUOTE] McVeigh was a self professed Agnostic, who also said that science was his religion.

Update?

Watching it live on my local news. Suspect is confirmed to be captured and in Police custody. They have EOD units checking out "items" the shooter bought to the crime scene to make sure there's no bombs. 11 people have been injured and transferred to local hospitals. 5 of them are officers. No confirmed fatalities.

[QUOTE=Robman8908;49199892]Er... if he's most likely targeting police, why would everyone be thinking he's targeting PP? He didn't set fire to it or fire a barrage of rounds into the building did he? I don't know... I think it's safe to assume that he could perhaps not be an extremist right-winger pro-lifer or whatever. I honestly don't understand why people are getting shut down for not assuming he is without any further details. If the shooting started at a Taco Bell, would we all think he has a huge beef with Americanized Mexican food?[/QUOTE] We really don't have enough information to say one way or another yet, but given the choice of location it doesn't seem far-fetched at all. Planned Parenthood has been the source of a huge amount of political controversy over those doctored videos about them "selling dead babies." Taco Bell hasn't.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;49199941]Apparently it was a bank robbery gone wrong.[/QUOTE] Any source on that?

[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;49198373]I hate when this happens because it always spurs the Gun Control debate...[/QUOTE] Yeah I know, it's fucking annoying. Like why do people think it's related? Mass shootings related to gun laws? like wtf

[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;49198373] I hate when this happens because it always spurs the Gun Control debate...[/QUOTE] It probably should. No other developed country has this much shootings.

Vice is reporting it was a columbine esq shooting (,trench coat and all) [url]https://www.vice.com/read/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting?utm_source=vicefbus[/url]

Vice is a shitty source for news. They sometimes do good investigative reporting, though.

[QUOTE=pocketpunkie;49198414]Probably some christian zealot who is against women having rights shootin' the place up. We will see on the nightly news tonight.[/QUOTE] I don't know about that, planned parenthood is controversial on both sides. it wouldn't exactly be a stretch to say someone who didn't like the way they try and talk women out of abortions probably did it. [editline]28th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;49200669]It probably should. No other developed country has this much shootings.[/QUOTE] other countries have stabbings and beatings at an incredible rate though

[QUOTE=butre;49200863]I other countries have stabbings and beatings at an incredible rate though[/QUOTE] Britain has a comparable rate of stabbings per 100,000 people to America, yet gun deaths happen at nearly 700 times the frequency over here.

[QUOTE=The Duke;49200905]Britain has a comparable rate of stabbings to America, yet gun deaths are 3500% higher here in America.[/QUOTE] I didn't say anything about britain. it's the same story all over the world. I was thinking of China in particular.

[QUOTE=The Duke;49200905]Britain has a comparable rate of stabbings per 100,000 people to America, yet gun deaths happen at nearly 700 times the frequency over here.[/QUOTE] It's 700 times the absolute number, but not the rate. The actual murder rate is about 4 times higher even though the murder rate with firearms is about 138 times higher. The UK also has double the rape rate of the US, twice as many assault victims, 22% more property crime, twice the rate of robberies, 35% more car thefts, etc. (all stats are based on population sizes: [URL]http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime[/URL]) Both countries have their crime issues. Guns are just an easy things to target because of how 'scary' they are.