Ubisoft Cancels Assassin's Creed: Unity Season Pass - Polidicks

[QUOTE=shadowboy303;46580337]B-B-BULLSHIT! Well, at least the guys who brought the seasons pass gets a free game. Still does not make up for those who brought a unfinished game.[/QUOTE] Everybody who bought the game is getting the season pass free are they not? Also the topic title is really misleading.

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[QUOTE=Manibogi;46580125]Yeah they're the devil. Fixing bugs, apologizing and giving people free DLC and free games is truly the most evil thing I've ever seen a company do.[/QUOTE] do you seriously not understand that his is a PR move and only happened because of how much shit they've got themselves into? AC3's launch was every bit as bad, but people were just too naive at the time to complain about it as much they did for unity. yet no apology for that, no apology for the blatant false advertisement involved with far cry 3's launch, no apology so far for the almost universal inability to play far cry 4's pc version. ubisoft is an anti consumer company, period.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46580540]do you seriously not understand that his is a PR move and only happened because of how much shit they've got themselves into? AC3's launch was every bit as bad, but people were just too naive at the time to complain about it as much they did for unity. yet no apology for that, no apology for the blatant false advertisement involved with far cry 3's launch, no apology so far for the almost universal inability to play far cry 4's pc version. ubisoft is an anti consumer company, period.[/QUOTE] [I]every single attempt[/I] of doing shit like this is a PR move no matter the company, that doesn't make it a bad move

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46580540]do you seriously not understand that his is a PR move and only happened because of how much shit they've got themselves into? AC3's launch was every bit as bad, but people were just too naive at the time to complain about it as much they did for unity. yet no apology for that, no apology for the blatant false advertisement involved with far cry 3's launch, [B]no apology so far for the almost universal inability to play far cry 4's pc version.[/B] ubisoft is an anti consumer company, period.[/QUOTE] Any move like this is a PR move.... FC4's PC launch was stable for most people. It was not universally unplayable. Blatant false advertising of FC3?

[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;46580526]They should've added Splinter Cell: Blacklist as well but you can't complain with free. FC4 isn't bad.[/QUOTE] Blacklist isn't on next gen, that's why [editline]26th November 2014[/editline] current gen, lol

[QUOTE=TehMentos;46580295]What about their obvious bullshit-spewing they've been doing for ages about 30 FPS "cinematic feel" and resolution BS?[/QUOTE] like what every other console dev is saying? alot of the people who make console games have been saying dumb shit like this for the past year. [QUOTE=TehMentos;46580295]What about their blatant lies about the graphics of Watch Dogs? (Let's see what happens with R6 and The Division)[/QUOTE] 1) Virtual slice. Every game company does it to show off their game and it always looks worse when the game comes out. Only game i can think of that improved graphically from early gameplay showings and trailers is Witcher 2. 2) We knew the Graphics were downgraded in march, the game came out in may. you had two months to cancel your pre-order or not buy the game at all if you felt you were lied to. [QUOTE=TehMentos;46580295]They're persistently releasing extremely buggy games - sure patches fix most issues, but it's not an excuse for selling an unplayable game at launch.[/QUOTE] reasonable point [QUOTE=TehMentos;46580295]Ubisoft are still selling overpriced day-1 DLC.[/QUOTE] then don't buy it. I haven't. [QUOTE=TehMentos;46580295]Besides that there's the strange review embargoes that have been going on.[/QUOTE] This is the only thing UBI is 100% guilty of and it's stupid. review embargos are dumb.

That is a great deal right there.

[QUOTE=bdd458;46580409]Seriously though I'm stoked. I'm going to get a copy of FC4. I got FC3 free with my old graphics card, so this is pretty cool.[/QUOTE] Of course now the real question is why did you buy the unity season pass in the first place lol

[QUOTE=Delta616;46580653]Any move like this is a PR move.... FC4's PC launch was stable for most people. It was not universally unplayable. Blatant false advertising of FC3?[/QUOTE] no it wasn't, people with 980s have to disable mipmaps just to play without extreme stutter. it's an utterly broken port for literally everyone and takes considerable work to make it playable (assuming you ever actually get to that point).

[QUOTE=KorJax;46580765]Of course now the real question is why did you buy the unity season pass in the first place lol[/QUOTE] Because I like AC:U? Plus Chronicles is going to be interesting.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46580798]no it wasn't, people with 980s have to disable mipmaps just to play without extreme stutter. it's an utterly broken port for literally everyone and takes considerable work to make it playable (assuming you ever actually get to that point).[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is everyone has 980's? The port is not utterly broken for literally everyone. I'm not saying the game is running properly for everyone, but saying that it's a broken port is very incorrect.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46580209]yea i was i seriously don't understand the hatred ubisoft has gathered in 3 months though they fucked up with review embargoes i understand that, but it's nothing to be "Worse than EA" about. Especially since Ubi puts out great small games and big games. Bugs and glitches i understand, but thats what patches are for and they put out a patch today in ACU that fixed all that. There was a earlier patch that fixed most of the PC Framerate issues too. Once ubi learns to not force out a big game at the end of the year all the problems are fixed.[/QUOTE] Besides the fact they've always had the shittiest DRM on the market (GFWL levels) they have also given us a history of terrible games that were overhyped to oblivion. Watch_Dogs, Far Cry 4, Unity, have all come out recently with either terrible ratings or so many bugs that they're unplayable. At the least, EA has been trying to improve their image, while Ubisoft has unabashedly continued their terrible PR and shitty released. Coupled with the leak of an employee showing how terrible it is to work there, they've done nothing but deserve this controversy.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46580696]like what every other console dev is saying? alot of the people who make console games have been saying dumb shit like this for the past year.[/quote] Ubisoft has been very vocal on this issue, and just because every console dev talks bullshit, doesn't make it acceptable. Also this has been going on for way more than a year. [QUOTE=Wii60;46580696] 1) Virtual slice. Every game company does it to show off their game and it always looks worse when the game comes out. Only game i can think of that improved graphically from early gameplay showings and trailers is Witcher 2. 2) We knew the Graphics were downgraded in march, the game came out in may. you had two months to cancel your pre-order or not buy the game at all if you felt you were lied to. [/quote] 1. This is obvious. Of course you make your presentations look good. What we witnessed at E3, however, wasn't just a slightly tweaked game running on max settings. It was a completely different game - the differences are massive. 2. Someone who followed the development closely might have known. A lot of consumers look at the big E3 presentations and forget about the game for a few years until it's about to be released. Not everyone has spare time enough to research games thoroughly. This is why we need to be able to trust developers and publishers. Did they email the people who pre-ordered, telling them that the game they'd bought into had changed? [QUOTE=Wii60;46580696] then don't buy it. I haven't. [/quote] Neither have I! This does not make the business practice any better. The entire point is basically that Day-1 DLC it's cut fucking content. It hurts every single consumer who buys the normal product. [QUOTE=Wii60;46580696] This is the only thing UBI is 100% guilty of and it's stupid. review embargos are dumb.[/QUOTE] Ehm. 100% guilty? Every single thing I've said, you've acknowledged, but just said that they don't matter because "everyone does it" or "you just shouldn't buy it then.". They're 100% guilty in all of this, and your post says that too.

[QUOTE=Delta616;46580653]Any move like this is a PR move.... FC4's PC launch was stable for most people. It was not universally unplayable. Blatant false advertising of FC3?[/QUOTE] Jesus christ, what is with people on the internet saying anything good that a bad company does is just a PR move? Of course it's a PR move. They're trying to make up for the mistakes they made. They've admitted to those mistakes. There's nothing wrong with a PR move. It comes up here every time an organization that people dislike makes a good move. Pope Francis says something good about gay people? Must be a PR move - the church can't change opinions like that. EA starts giving out free games and refunds with Origin? Must be a PR move - they're a shitty company. When Tesla batteries caught on fire and they offered replacements and assurances that this is a very rare thing, nobody was going "It's just a PR move," because people here like Tesla. Stop doing this - shitty companies can admit to their faults and do good things. Don't discount those because you don't like the company - applaud them for making efforts to fix their reputation. [I]Everything[/I] any large company [I]ever says[/I] is a cautiously-worded PR move.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;46580896]Jesus christ, what is with people on the internet saying anything good that a bad company does is just a PR move? Of course it's a PR move. They're trying to make up for the mistakes they made. They've admitted to those mistakes. There's nothing wrong with a PR move. It comes up here every time an organization that people dislike makes a good move. Pope Francis says something good about gay people? Must be a PR move - the church can't change opinions like that. EA starts giving out free games and refunds with Origin? Must be a PR move - they're a shitty company. When Tesla batteries caught on fire and they offered replacements and assurances that this is a very rare thing, nobody was going "It's just a PR move," because people here like Tesla. Stop doing this - shitty companies can admit to their faults and do good things. Don't discount those because you don't like the company - applaud them for making efforts to fix their reputation. [I]Everything[/I] any large company [I]ever says[/I] is a cautiously-worded PR move.[/QUOTE] Well said.

It's not so much about the fact that it's a PR move. It's a matter of whether they'll be able to actually improve their practices in the long term. Basically: is it a meaningful PR move or not?

[QUOTE=Delta616;46580870]So what you're saying is everyone has 980's? The port is not utterly broken for literally everyone. I'm not saying the game is running properly for everyone, but saying that it's a broken port is very incorrect.[/QUOTE] 980s, the best gpus on the market, are not good enough to run the game with mipmaps on without the severe stutter (unless you drop to medium or low textures which basically defeats the purpose of mipmaps). everyone either has 980s or something worse than 980s, yes. that is absolutely correct. it is broken in one way or another for everyone. people with very high end hardware who for some reason choose the medium preset on their games probably avoided most problems, but apart from that everyone had to go through some nonsense to get it to run. a fair majority either have unplayable performance or drastically sub-par performance. you can look at any benchmark from any reputable source, they all comment on the issues it has. the game also has a bug which as of yet has no fix, that causes it to inexplicably lock to 47 FPS at random intervals. this is present on every hardware configuration, so yes, it is more than worthy of the title Broken Port. [editline]26th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=.Isak.;46580896]Jesus christ, what is with people on the internet saying anything good that a bad company does is just a PR move? Of course it's a PR move. They're trying to make up for the mistakes they made. They've admitted to those mistakes. There's nothing wrong with a PR move. It comes up here every time an organization that people dislike makes a good move. Pope Francis says something good about gay people? Must be a PR move - the church can't change opinions like that. EA starts giving out free games and refunds with Origin? Must be a PR move - they're a shitty company. When Tesla batteries caught on fire and they offered replacements and assurances that this is a very rare thing, nobody was going "It's just a PR move," because people here like Tesla. Stop doing this - shitty companies can admit to their faults and do good things. Don't discount those because you don't like the company - applaud them for making efforts to fix their reputation. [I]Everything[/I] any large company [I]ever says[/I] is a cautiously-worded PR move.[/QUOTE] it doesn't represent their intentions, business model or long term goals in any way. it's something they were forced to do by an overwhelmingly harmful backlash. if you're really going to go into semantics about what a PR move is, I'm not going to bother to debate that. but this is a meaningless gesture from a company that has no intention of being fair towards their customers any more than they absolutely have to. when CD Projekt Red completely removed DRM from The Witcher 2, it was an attempt at generating good will in the community and improving their reputation, just like this season pass business with AC unity. the difference is that CD Projekt Red has consistently operated with pro-consumer business models, been respectful to their customers and supporters, been responsible for the products they've charged money for, and continue to hold true to that reputation. ubisoft, on the other hand, is the exact opposite of everything I just said.

[QUOTE]it doesn't represent their intentions, business model or long term goals in any way. it's something they were forced to do by an overwhelmingly harmful backlash. if you're really going to go into semantics about what a PR move is, I'm not going to bother to debate that. but this is a meaningless gesture from a company that has no intention of being fair towards their customers any more than they absolutely have to. when CD Projekt Red completely removed DRM from The Witcher 2, it was an attempt at generating good will in the community and improving their reputation, just like this season pass business with AC unity. the difference is that CD Projekt Red has consistently operated with pro-consumer business models, been respectful to their customers and supporters, been responsible for the products they've charged money for, and continue to hold true to that reputation. ubisoft, on the other hand, is the exact opposite of everything I just said.[/QUOTE] People said the same stuff about EA and Origin when they started making changes, though. Shitty company that started releasing free games and making a very forgiving refund policy while expanding their store catalog and improving their client. The thing is, when a company makes a positive move like this, you don't spit on them for being shit anyways. You make it clear that you appreciate it, and they're more likely to do it again. People hated EA and Origin with good reason for a long time, but when they started making reparations (entirely due to the backlash of the consumers), their company image improved and they provided a quality service that most people are happy with. Ubisoft is a shit company that deserves the shit they get online, but when they make changes like this - even due to powerful backlash - you applaud it. It helps get the message across to a tight-knit corporate culture that people want the company to act that way. Companies adapt and change, and instead of vilifying them entirely for bad actions, you should rip into them for the bad shit they do and praise them for the good shit.

unexpected because no one played it lol

I bet it was hard to persuade the board of directors to allow this.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;46581183]People said the same stuff about EA and Origin when they started making changes, though. Shitty company that started releasing free games and making a very forgiving refund policy while expanding their store catalog and improving their client. The thing is, when a company makes a positive move like this, you don't spit on them for being shit anyways. You make it clear that you appreciate it, and they're more likely to do it again. People hated EA and Origin with good reason for a long time, but when they started making reparations (entirely due to the backlash of the consumers), their company image improved and they provided a quality service that most people are happy with. Ubisoft is a shit company that deserves the shit they get online, but when they make changes like this - even due to powerful backlash - you applaud it. It helps get the message across to a tight-knit corporate culture that people want the company to act that way. Companies adapt and change, and instead of vilifying them entirely for bad actions, you should rip into them for the bad shit they do and praise them for the good shit.[/QUOTE] "People" might have said a lot of things. I'm one person, and I found it pretty obvious that EA was legitimately making changes to their business practices. ubisoft likely won't, not any time soon any way. this is a PR move meant to reassure people that they next AC game will not have any of these problems and that they can spend their money on it without having to worry. that probably won't be the case, and that's why it's important to acknowledge that their decision in this case is basically meaningless. applauding them for this like you suggested only shows that they can fuck up as much as they want and everything will be fine as long as they say sorry afterwards.

[QUOTE=FpShepard;46580161]So if you bought the season pass, you still get the content you paid for (it's not canceled) and you can also get far cry 4 for free.[/QUOTE] Whoa those are all relatively good games, or at the very least it's good value. [editline]26th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=proch;46581270]I bet it was hard to persuade the board of directors to allow this.[/QUOTE] which is why the news came out today lol

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;46581360]"People" might have said a lot of things. I'm one person, and I found it pretty obvious that EA was legitimately making changes to their business practices. ubisoft likely won't, not any time soon any way. this is a PR move meant to reassure people that they next AC game will not have any of these problems and that they can spend their money on it without having to worry. that probably won't be the case, and that's why it's important to acknowledge that their decision in this case is basically meaningless. applauding them for this like you suggested only shows that they can fuck up as much as they want and everything will be fine as long as they say sorry afterwards.[/QUOTE] It been [B]6 months[/B] since watch dogs came out, the one that every points to as the start with how terrible ubisoft has been. There hasn't been time for a company that large to fucking fix their stupid problems.

[QUOTE=Wii60;46580103]wow ubisoft is the devil, canceling content for games i wish they would all burn, 3 fuckups this year makes them worse than satan. Forget games like Child of light, Rayman, Valiant Hearts, Or a bunch of other great games ubisoft made recently and released.[/QUOTE] "Hey sorry I fucked up. Have Far Cry 4 and free Unity DLC" - The Devil

So when does this come into effect?