Teen dies in woodchipper on first day at work, his boss had a heart attack on the spot
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[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;49301834]It's so depressing seeing a 19-year-old enter the running for the Darwin Awards.
I feel sorry for the guy's family, and all witnesses. The sound must have been beyond horrifying.[/QUOTE]
There hasn't been anything new coming out of the Darwin Awards website in several years now, I think he's been spared that honor.
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;49302112]Lots of Captain Hindsights in this thread.[/QUOTE]
They're not wrong, they're just assholes.
[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;49303426]If he was being watched by even one person who knew how dangerous the shit he was doing was, we'd never have this headline[/QUOTE]
And yet supposedly he was working with two of them. Having worked in industrial places for the past three years, my guess is one or both of them told him to just kick it in.
[QUOTE=Satane;49303389]Kicking the tree in or not, the real question is why was there no big red button he could hit when he got stuck?[/QUOTE]
A woodchipper is pretty loud, maybe they didn't notice until the very last second they were able to act.
[QUOTE=Ishwoo;49303460]There should be a giant red handle around the feeder so when this happens (which it shouldnt ever because sticking any limb into a shredder = dead/dismemberment) you can grab it as you get sucked in, turning off the machine. Do the US ones not have these?[/QUOTE]
Yes most of the most of the later models have the reverse feed bar on top and safety stop bar at bottom edge of tray. That said though they get damaged and some companies I've seen just completely override them as they hated triggering them all the time. A beginner would panic though and not even think of engaging one. And these things feed pretty quickly if you set up the feed rate to high.
[QUOTE=J Paul;49301944]Regulation would certainly prevent it, the problem is it's way cheaper to go unregulated and we're already dirt poor.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=IrishBandit;49302097]I feel like all spinning death blade machines should have some kind of safety built into them at this point, like this buzzsaw:[/QUOTE][QUOTE=nox;49302114]Workplace accidents are a thing, grogginess and absent-mindedness happen quite often, only difference in this scenario is the guy paid for his accident with his life instead of just a limb or his job. If anything blame the fucked up company regulations allowing shit like this.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Toy_Soldier;49302132]most woodchippers I've seen have a big fat emergency stop button on it. Meaning people just watched him get pulled in and chipped up and did nothing.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Map in a box;49302333]why didn't this machine have emergency stops placed all around it[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49302472]Hell, maybe it did and lax training standards left people confused about what to do in this situation? Or maybe it just happened too fast to save him or the horror of it made the only people in a situation to help completely freeze up. I can only imagine how awful this would be to witness.[/QUOTE]Wow. Okay, I guess I have to explain this to people.
Woodchippers are big, dangerous machines that operate by rotating a big metal drum with blades in it being turned by a gasoline-powered engine. No, I don't mean a fucking lawnmower or gokart engine, there's usually one big enough to at least power a decent-sized motorcycle so it has a [I]lot[/I] of torque, it eats trees after all. This big spinning drum (or drums) are actually hard to stop, that "emergency stop" is quite often a kill switch that just turns off the engine and lets the drum spin down by itself; since it's basically a big, fat flywheel it takes awhile to do that. Some of them have brakes, but most don't.
A large commercial wood chipper can eat a log that's eight inches in diameter in about ten seconds. It will eat a person in a fraction of that time, and remember that a lot of chippers rely on the feed to slow the machine so your soft, easily-chopped flesh will be the braking force for a couple hundred pounds of spinning steel. Think about that for a moment.
The one and only time I was almost pulled into a chipper it was muddy, rainy, and a tiny little knob on the branch caught my [I][U]belt[/U] [U]hook[/U][/I] and that apparently had enough strength to lift my happy ass up over the feed ramp and put my face right next to the blades. What saved me was my apparently cat-like reflexes, I hooked my arms on the feed chute and held on as best I could as a massive wad of branches and leaves shoved it's way past me. This happened in [I]seconds[/I] and I had no time to react, and I wasn't even doing anything improper. I was following the labels on the machine, stand off to the side, don't wear loose clothing, etc etc and still a freak accident happened. They're called "freak accidents" because they're completely out there when they happen, if you do follow the rules these things are easy to work with. These things have clear instructions but they are inherently deadly machines and they are not to be trifled with, this kid fucked up by violating at least a couple big no-no rules clearly marked on the side. (they ALL have these markings by the way) He fucked up, plain and simple, the only way this could have been prevented was him successfully kicking it and then somebody going, "hey you moron don't fucking put your leg in there, it eats trees for a living use your head." Or, you know, he used his head... honestly he reminds me of my brother who almost did the same shit but I grabbed him and hauled his ass off the machine.
This isn't because of a lack of regulations or some other completely stupid shit, and the machine has all the safety features it needs. They're just deadly, dangerous pieces of equipment that you need to watch your P's and Q's around or you will turn into a meat snack.
Really feel for everyone involved in this. I'd never be able to sleep again.
It's going to be a closed casket funeral I see.
Sad; but yeah. You couldn't pay me any amount of money to try and kick stuff into a wood chipper. And on your first day of the job?
The idea of industrial accidents terrify me.
[QUOTE=Fort83;49301793]Jesus, what a horrible way to go.
Why did he think kicking a limb inside the chipper was a good idea..[/QUOTE]
we all have our moments
getting brutally killed like this is my worst nightmare
I feel so fucking bad for his family...
[editline]shit...[/editline]
the concept of industrial accidents in general horrifies me, not only are most of the machines in use probably rusty, dirty, and just generally unclean, but they're built to deal with the hardest of materials
I can't imagine what it would feel like to have that mercilessly tear you apart
They won't be able to bury his body (at least intact) or properly cremate him. That is a sad thought. My thoughts are with the family.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49301958]
Is this your first day on the internet, btw??[/QUOTE]
Being a super cool internet veteran doesn't mean you have to act like a prick all the time.
But nah, go ahead man. Act like he's in the wrong because he's "new to the internet", not that you think a horrible accident and a description of a mothers grief is hilarious.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49301804]Should probably consider regulation for that but I don't think regulation could have really prevented this.[/QUOTE]
Rules don't help people that are dumb enough to stick themselves inside a wood chipper.
[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;49305343]Being a super cool internet veteran doesn't mean you have to act like a prick all the time.
But nah, go ahead man. Act like he's in the wrong because he's "new to the internet", not that you think a horrible accident and a description of a mothers grief is hilarious.[/QUOTE]
What on Earth are you on about?
Why are you guys blowing this out of proportion? "Oh my fucking god, I can't [I]believe[/I] people would find this funny! [I]The nerve![/I]"
I didn't even say anything remotely funny -yet I could see how, despite how tragic this is, could be construed as some sort of dark comedy- but you guys are painting me and some of the other commenters like we're some sort of heartless cunts for even [I]thinking about[/I] it.
Could you not, please.
[editline]13th December 2015[/editline]
Could you please spare us the "lessons in morality" whenever there's a tragic accident and someone has more than one point of view on the matter? Geez.
holy shit i nearly threw up reading the news story
i'm not a squeamish person but holy [I]shit[/I]
the guy having a heart attack just makes it all the more horrifying. it must have been quite a sight, and the screams...jesus christ this is horrifying
[QUOTE=CoixNiro;49302104]Some of the posts in this thread holy shit how do you live with yourself. Let's victim blame someone who got ripped to shreds by heavy machinery. Why don't you tell his mother how he's a fucking idiot who deserved to die because lol survival of teh fittest!!!?
Too fucking edgy for me. Get the fuck over yourselves and show some compassion for once in your pathetic lives.[/QUOTE]
They forget that they probably did stupid things themselves when they were that age. And are alive just because they were lucky.
[editline]12th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=iAmaNewb;49304861]It's going to be a closed casket funeral I see.[/QUOTE]
Gee no kidding captain obvious.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49304640]hey you moron don't fucking put your leg in there, it eats trees for a living use your head.[/QUOTE]
It would actually have been better for him if he used his head.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49301801]Btw notice the poll on the left hand side of the article.. 10% Hilarious.
We are not alone, at least.[/QUOTE]
yeah man a kid got eaten slowly, feet first, by a fucking wood chipper. 19 years old. Whole life ahead of him. Probably just working to get some extra money for college. Young and inexperienced. Funny! Haha!
honestly, many people use humor as a coping mechanism for things they'd rather not think too hard about. That's probably what you mean by funny. Because honestly there's nothing even humorous or ironic about this. Unless you think that EVERY time a person dies is funny, or something.
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;49306206]It would actually have been better for him if he used his head.[/QUOTE]... Yeah, honestly, I thought about that when I read this and realized I wouldn't have felt even a fraction of what this kid went through. I mean it's fucked up to think about but somebody who goes into a chipper head-first is luckier than somebody who goes in feet-first.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;49306591]... Yeah, honestly, I thought about that when I read this and realized I wouldn't have felt even a fraction of what this kid went through. I mean it's fucked up to think about but somebody who goes into a chipper head-first is luckier than somebody who goes in feet-first.[/QUOTE]
I think he meant he wouldn't have gotten snagged on it and thus wouldn't have gotten pulled through in the first place.
Really sad that he had to die such a terrible way from a tiny mistake that honestly could have happened to anyone not thinking 100% while doing the job. A lot of people are calling him stupid, but while doing such a mundane job as chipping wood, anyone could have let their brain slip away a second and make such a mistake.
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;49306604]I think he meant he wouldn't have gotten snagged on it and thus wouldn't have gotten pulled through in the first place.[/QUOTE]I think he meant it as a double entendre, but either way the proper way of operating a wood chipper does not involve kicking anything.
[editline]13th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=matt000024;49306617]Really sad that he had to die such a terrible way from a tiny mistake that honestly could have happened to anyone not thinking 100% while doing the job. A lot of people are calling him stupid, but while doing such a mundane job as chipping wood, anyone could have let their brain slip away a second and make such a mistake.[/QUOTE]I mean I guess, but you have to climb up on this loud, fear-inducing machine that's made of slippery metal and then physically kick a chunk of wood that's being munched up by a rapidly spinning set of steel blades inside of a dark, ominous hole.
That's more than a "oh whoops I accidentally left the faucet on lol" moment.
Everything is fucked about this but holy hell I can't imagine the witnesses not snapping or recovering anytime soon, that's PTSD material right there.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;49303340]I imagine none of you have ever worked in an industrial setting with energized machines or an industrial setting at all. It's very easy to be doing something to do something you don't think is that dangerous when in reality it could be very dangerous, sometimes you just don't think.
There probably was a branch or something sticking out the machine and he applied force with his leg, the branch gave way easier than he thought and he loss his balance. Or he kicked and missed and his legged traveled too far into the machine
Just last week when at work doing something I was leaning against the side of a conveyor belt that I didn't know if it was locked out and shut down or just turned off momentarily. If that thing would have cut on it would have possibly killed me. I can just imagine everyone going "What a dumbass, just don't stand on a convery belt"
Point is everyone, including everyone in the thread, at one point or another has done something very stupid without thinking that potentially could have ended up bad. This kid didn't end up dead because he didn't "have any sense", he died because he was inexperienced and didn't probably didn't realize the risk of what he was doing.
Its just shitty to see tons of people here essentially call this kid a moron when in reality they have probably never worked a job that involves any sort of real danger. And if they have I am sure they have put themselves in dangerous situations before without thinking.[/QUOTE]
I've worked with welding bottles and high voltage machines, and cutting tools (both fire and shear) before, as well as cranes. Not a WHOLE lot, but I know that you can pretty much die almost immediately
there is not thinking about what you're doing, and hey, sometimes you fuck up and get hurt. Everyone fucks up and gets hurt some times. Shit happens, you can't prevent it. I've burnt my hand badly before, have a few scars. it's a part of it, you bleed and you suffer and then you heal.
And then there is doing something really ignorant and stupid, like trying to weld a bottle full of flammable gas to attach a piece of metal onto it. The reason I brought that up is because I was told someone actually tried to do that, but was stopped before actually doing it. That would have ended similar to this, if not possibly worse. Gas bottles can rocket through solid stone walls like nothing, and even people, as well as explode.
this is a controlled popping here, it shows a best case scenario. Most people know about how dangerous it is though so it does without saying.
[video=youtube;I1tosV3KSFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1tosV3KSFc[/video]
some people just don't belong in a construction job, yeah. This seems like it was far more than a lack of experience. this is kind of like playing around at the edge of a volcano.
but I wasn't there so maybe I really shouldn't judge.
[editline]13th December 2015[/editline]
I think the people to blame the most here are the people supervising him, perhaps.
Jesus Christ, I can't even imagine a worse way to go.
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[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;49302071]Humor can be a coping mechanism[/QUOTE]
why do people still use this piss poor excuse? you're not making jokes about news like these because it affected you so much you need to find ways to cope, you're doing it precisely because it [I]didn't[/I] affect you
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49307087]why do people still use this piss poor excuse? you're not making jokes about news like these because it affected you so much you need to find ways to cope, you're doing it precisely because it [I]didn't[/I] affect you[/QUOTE]
Laughter and humor are both responses and coping mechanisms for stressful and emotional states, and it's a perfectly valid reasoning, whether you like it or not.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49307146]Laughter and humor are both responses and coping mechanisms for stressful and emotional states, and it's a perfectly valid reasoning, whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE]
look man, i think this is an absolute tragedy. it's heartbreaking and awful in every possible way. but even i don't pretend to need "coping mechanisms" for this. it's just not something that affected me personally and i doubt it affected any of the people making these jokes
just admit that's your style of humor, geez. there's no need to act like a tucker and dale reference is actually a way of coping
So did he go all the way through or did they shut it down before that?
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