Teen dies in woodchipper on first day at work, his boss had a heart attack on the spot - Polidicks

I can't even imagine the despair and agony this poor soul felt when that death machine was grinding him into tiny pieces Fuck...

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49302333]why didn't this machine have emergency stops placed all around it[/QUOTE] Usually you don't need that many emergency stops on machinery, just enough to be accessable from all sides. Honestly the old emergency stop button is a shitty idea, because no one in an emergency situation will have enough time to stop the machine especially when people are panicking. A little better solution is putting emergency stop pull chords all around the places where you could get in danger, like around conveyors, crushers, shredders or wood chippers so it's always in reach if you get pulled in.

An awful way to die. Even more awful is so many people seeing it happen. It was also a very stupid thing to do, but people sometimes do stupid things, even if you are the smartest person on earth. It depends on the current state of your mind, and in this case, whether some safety precautions were instructed and whether they were followed. Isn't really an excuse for the accident being "hilarious".

Even the smartest of people make the dumbest of mistakes - everybody does. But I will never understand those who can think so highly of themselves, that they resort to insulting others for careless mistakes. He's dead, so just let it go.

I think what people are getting so hung up on, and myself personally, is that it's so blatantly obvious that you would never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never fucking do what this kid did. Like I would be scared just trying to use this type of machine properly and have a million fears that I'd somehow end up in that grinder while being responsible and safe (Shit does just happen, clothes get snagged, you could slip, etc). But this guy knowingly was kicking stuff into this machine; I feel bad for everyone involved I do, but this kid seemed to lack any sense of self preservation. I just don't get how, and I know I'm judging, someone could be so dumb to do what he did.

[QUOTE=IrishBandit;49302097]I feel like all spinning death blade machines should have some kind of safety built into them at this point, like this buzzsaw: [video=youtube;LGiYlyo2-eQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiYlyo2-eQ[/video][/QUOTE] That is pretty interesting, I used to be quite afraid of the table saw, but not really for the reason of getting my fingers chopped off. But we had to cut big chunks of wood and sometimes the blade just tends to push the wood back really hard, and you really don't want to get hit by that. Most equipment in the shop we had was pretty safe, the table saw had a plastic cap which pushed down onto the wood so it was quite tricky to get your fingers cut off. But damn, going in feet first into the grinder, those screams surely would've gone through everyone's spine. I'm not easily disgusted by gore, but that shit would twist my stomach not just once but twice.

[QUOTE=Inspector Jones;49308227]I think what people are getting so hung up on, and myself personally, is that it's so blatantly obvious that you would never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never fucking do what this kid did. Like I would be scared just trying to use this type of machine properly and have a million fears that I'd somehow end up in that grinder while being responsible and safe (Shit does just happen, clothes get snagged, you could slip, etc). But this guy knowingly was kicking stuff into this machine; I feel bad for everyone involved I do, but this kid seemed to lack any sense of self preservation. I just don't get how, and I know I'm judging, someone could be so dumb to do what he did.[/QUOTE] Not everyone is scared of machines, although being comfortable around them can make a person more careless. Besides, giving a stuck object a careful push from a distance is not exactly insane, if he were careful.

There's a difference between being comfortable around something, and being careless. Like I said before, this is either the kid's fault for not following regulations/being dense, or the employer's fault for not properly educating/reinforcing regulations. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize "Maybe dicking around with this device that reduces trees to chunks isn't a good idea."

I think he knew it wasn't safe, but a combination of laziness & confidence made him kick it. We have all taken [I]some[/I] pointless risks, almost purely for these reasons. Yet apparently it's just the unlucky ones who are actually stupid. I have to say tho', now that I think of the fact that he actually kicked it with his foot, it is pretty absurd - but he doesn't deserve to be labeled a moron based on this one fatal event.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49301804]Should probably consider regulation for that but I don't think regulation could have really prevented this.[/QUOTE] I thought workers have to attend safety workshops before beginning work, or at least have a supervisor for their firsts explaining the do's and dont's. [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] A 19 year old couldn't possiblt be comfortable around machines without being careless. After 20 years in a trade, you can get safely comfortable. Not on your first day on the job.

[QUOTE=proch;49308587]I thought workers have to attend safety workshops before beginning work, or at least have a supervisor for their firsts explaining the do's and dont's. [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] A 19 year old couldn't possiblt be comfortable around machines without being careless. After 20 years in a trade, you can get safely comfortable. Not on your first day on the job.[/QUOTE] A lot of these jobs are small family owned where I imagine it's more or less something like "Hey need a job? Okay do this" if it were for a larger company there would probably be some safety briefs.

I've done a couple week's worth of tree-trimming and wood-chipping and even though my boss was kind of a dick and didn't even provide us with safety glasses and helmets it was pretty important never to put any of your limbs near the machine. You'd only push a piece of wood with another piece.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49307260]look man, i think this is an absolute tragedy. it's heartbreaking and awful in every possible way. but even i don't pretend to need "coping mechanisms" for this. it's just not something that affected me personally and i doubt it affected any of the people making these jokes just admit that's your style of humor, geez. there's no need to act like a tucker and dale reference is actually a way of coping[/QUOTE] Of course it is my style of humor. But then again, there's no need to act all high and mighty about it. [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] People react [I]differently[/I] towards dramatic events, is it really so damn hard to accept?

[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;49302118]It's not like it's not sad but the whole incident reads like it came from a shitty comedy-horror movie. Theres inherent humor in stuff like this, and none of us are close enough to the victim to justify not finding humor in it.[/QUOTE] Not being a sociopathic piece of shit works pretty well

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49307146]Laughter and humor are both responses and coping mechanisms for stressful and emotional states, and it's a perfectly valid reasoning, whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49309261]Of course it is my style of humor. But then again, there's no need to act all high and mighty about it. [editline]13th December 2015[/editline] People react [I]differently[/I] towards dramatic events, is it really so damn hard to accept?[/QUOTE] I really refuse to believe people are so emotionally distraught over news of the death of someone they hadn't previously known to exist that they need to COPE EMOTIONALLY with it I'm pretty sure they just want to make a joke not that that's an AWFUL thing to do but that REALLY isn't the reason. it just isn't.

[QUOTE=BusterBluth;49303367]I use to work on conveyor belts before I switched over to our companys scaffolding division and when I started there was a million different little ways you could hurt/kill yourself by just not knowing any better or not knowing what to pay attention too.[/QUOTE] it's pretty simple to not get hurt around machinery. just keep your fingers, clothes, and hair out of the spinny bits and you'll be fine.

You couldn't pay me to get near one of these things. All it takes is one fuck up, whether accidental or otherwise and you're dead. Even the most careful of people can make a mistake, definitely not a job for everyone.

[QUOTE=IrishBandit;49302097]I feel like all spinning death blade machines should have some kind of safety built into them at this point, like this buzzsaw: [video=youtube;LGiYlyo2-eQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiYlyo2-eQ[/video][/QUOTE] The brakes on these things cost around $750 last I checked and rely on conducting electricity between human skin and the blade. It's probably really tricky to make something like that to accomidate for both varying outdoor conditions and types of wood being grinded.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49307146]Laughter and humor are both responses and coping mechanisms for stressful and emotional states, and it's a perfectly valid reasoning, whether you like it or not.[/QUOTE] lol, tell that to the parents. I dare you.

This is fucking nightmarish considering it was legs first, omg

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49311029]The brakes on these things cost around $750 last I checked and rely on conducting electricity between human skin and the blade. It's probably really tricky to make something like that to accomidate for both varying outdoor conditions and types of wood being grinded.[/QUOTE] I'm ordering a Sawstop 3hp cabinet table saw within the week for my business, the brake cartridges are only $65. Hell I'm buying a few spares so I won't have any downtime if I have a false positive. The saws are about $1,000 more expensive than a cheaper traditional table saw but that is worth it for the chance that at some point in my future that I don't have to lose some fingers because of an accident. For outdoor use like this though you couldn't use something like that because like you said, the moisture content of the material could be high which causes false positives on systems like that. Once the patten expires for Sawstop it will most likely be law that all table saws produced in the US will have the feature, there's a lot of other tools like jointers and bandsaws that hopefully get similar Sawstop style safety features. But first and foremost the best safety is through proper machine use, every table saw injury I've heard of was the result of someone doing something stupidly dangerous or careless to begin with.

sounds like he had a chip in the shoulder

[QUOTE=KingKombat;49313023]This is fucking nightmarish considering it was legs first, omg[/QUOTE] It gets worse when you consider that he would have had one leg out while using the other leg to kick in the log, unless he somehow thought it would be better to use both feet at once to stomp the wood though

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49311029]The brakes on these things cost around $750 last I checked and rely on conducting electricity between human skin and the blade. It's probably really tricky to make something like that to accomidate for both varying outdoor conditions and types of wood being grinded.[/QUOTE] The brakes also instantly destroy themselves in order to take the impact of the force of stopping something at that RPM instantly.

ughh when our neighbourhood got new trees i was watching this guy doing his chipping and he kept using his legs dangerously close to the thing... He's safe though

God isn't there a fucking emergency stop button or mechanism for shit like this?

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;49315277]God isn't there a fucking emergency stop button or mechanism for shit like this?[/QUOTE] If someone's back was turned, the someone else can go from emergency to death before anyone can reasonably press the stop button. Wood chippers aren't exactly known for being slow machines.

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;49315277]God isn't there a fucking emergency stop button or mechanism for shit like this?[/QUOTE] There is but it doesn't stop on a dime and chances are if someone did manage to hit the button his legs would've still been chewed up to the point where he won't be able to use them anymore. Think about how fast a woodchipper eats through trees and now imagine a person. There's not much time to react to it. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKLdD9NwoE4[/media] I mean it turns tree trunks into saw dust, that kid's legs (had he survived) would have been nothing but stumps.

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;49315277]God isn't there a fucking emergency stop button or mechanism for shit like this?[/QUOTE] There is. They used it. It was too late. Wood chippers are fucking vicious. If you do manage to stop them in time, you're still dealing with excessive pain and bleeding.

[QUOTE=NotMeh;49307743]I can't even imagine the despair and agony this poor soul felt when that death machine was grinding him into tiny pieces Fuck...[/QUOTE] He probably didn't feel any of those emotions. You only feel those things if you were expecting it to happen, when it's a surprise you usually just feel angry that you were so stupid.