Quran burning Pastor, Terry Jones, running for President - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33048633]That I cannot, this is true, but candidates say a lot of things to draw in more voters. See: Obama's "I'm goint to get us out of this economic hole". Yeah, he really has.[/QUOTE] How is this bigoted and hateful in any way?

[QUOTE=ewitwins;33048681]How is this bigoted and hateful in any way?[/QUOTE] I didn't say it was.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33048693]I didn't say it was.[/QUOTE] Oh okay, that works then.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;33048473]Now you sound like an unintelligible bigot. I had a slight amount of respect for you and your opinions, and I think TBFundy had no right to be immature in his anger, but it's gotten to the point where you shouldn't carry on a conversation if people who swear at you make you lose your temper! You have a responsibility to uphold as someone with an entitled opinion to be respectful and clear with your message, WITHOUT swearing someone out, because the minute you do, your message falls on deaf ears. Come on Bomimo, let's show some adult conversation skills and pick yourself off and try that again. [/quote] Duly noted and taken to heart. I shouldn't just cuss off on a limb... [quote]I'll start. Bomimo, I agree with you on the fact that the Republican and Bush-strangled administration and government the United States had to deal with completely obliterated everything that Clinton had worked so hard on trying to repair. I'll tell you from my perspective, it feels like every time something truly great from our current administration comes down the pipe, something that could be REALLY good for our image over seas, it's squelched by Republicans with insults and criticism, and the media wants to focus on only the bad things about the United States. Americans in general are very blinded when it comes to international concerns, something I believe is because we are so far away from the rest of the world. We see ourselves as this island separate from the world, except for trade, and it feels like few Americans regard it as something they should be concerned about. [/QUOTE]The first part was insightful. But both of these things come down to your media and how it's been shaped by consumers really. Not giving a toss about Europe has been a fad for centuries thanks to well, colonial conflicts i guess. In fact, WWII was your first real cooperation with continental Europe if memory serves. So foreign news aren't really important unless it relates to terrorism or (during the cold war) communism. But sometimes you, as a people really show yourselves as barbaric shithurlers. A prime example would be the "Osama be ded" celebration. Over here it didn't take two milliseconds to draw a parallel to the same kind of "celebrations" (riots really) in the middle east. Now that's an incident we couldn't have missed over here if we lived on the moon! But why the hell did Sarah Palin need to be shown off globally? Why is Glenn Beck not institutionalized and just WHY isn't Bill O'Reilly not required to finish his High-School before getting an influential position in the media? There is so much wrong with the way your media handles itself in regards to being generally informative... It's not. It's as unintelligent as Spongebob Squarepants at its worst. That we over here think of the Late Night show as your best attempt at intelligent humour is really bad. (even though it's good) But then again. The right-wing media is only feeding off the cultural heritage of those people. But then let's turn to their coverage of your educational reform (proposition?). Remove evolution, a scientifically backed theory and treat the Bible as a historical source AND a source for science classes. I mean. WHAT the FUCK Texas!? Then we get another shock over here. "are they really that thick?" Your image over here, put in rough terms, is that of a medieval nation with behind-the-scenes theocracy. We realize that you're an union of 50 states, but could we at least try to encourage intelligent backing of facts on a global level please? i'm going off on nonsensical tangent here, but the core point is that the real problem is at the core of your culture and it's going to take some headstrong people to change it. Because it's real popular to deny all facts and yell "JEWSUS LAWD" Whenever anyone talks sense at you... No wait, that's just the WBC (again a group that sets your population in a retarded light). Are we really at fault if we take what we see and compiling a theory about your people as a whole from that? I KNOW that Americans are generally sane people. We all actually KNOW that. But we also SEE a lot of insane shit from your end of the globe. The parallels with your "sworn enemies" became very apparent these past 10 years. I'm saying a lot of obvious shit. This is psychology for kids really. Sociology. "that guy smells, he was probably raped as a kid. I don't like him!" Another reason why i just blurted that shit out earlier is because As far as we know over HERE. You Americans have NO attention span. You're too sensationalistic and passionate a people to hear anyone out. You're all patriots and warriors with heart. At least, that's what Mel Gibson showed us.

[QUOTE=RusMar;33029133] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Rllaj3UGaIU/S8JFgIjW1dI/AAAAAAAAAAM/gcUwgA2ytVo/s1600/2008_Election_Map.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I feel bad for the county in the middle of Texas that voted Obama.

[QUOTE=mac338;33052759]I feel bad for the county in the middle of Texas that voted Obama.[/QUOTE] That would be where Austin is.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;33029811]no don't you see those aren't TRUE christians but when muslims do something bad they're definitely acting as official agents of the entire muslim faith yup[/QUOTE] Remember the Crusades? They were official agents of Catholics. Hehehe.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33048521] Oh what ho, what do we have here? Another uninformed breaker of Godwin's law. Just because Hitler was a christian, did not mean that the Holocaust and the invasions of Poland, Czechoslovakia, France and declaring war on Russia, England, and the united states were religiously caused or biased. Adolf Hitler was a madman and a ruthless dictator, who's messed up ideas of how the world worked caused the death of over 7 Million Jews and Gypsies, and countless soldiers and civilians who rose up against the leader of the Third Reich. Long Story Short: Bringing Adolf Hitler in to help your argument doesn't.[/QUOTE] Hitler believed he was doing the work of God, so yes there was a religious connection.

[QUOTE=Omali;33053756]Hitler believed he was doing the work of God, so yes there was a religious connection.[/QUOTE] And he also thought he could conjure demons and see the future by pouring molten lead into freezing cold water and pulling out the shapes. Yeah, he totally knew what he was doing.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;33022810]I thought you had to be somewhat educated before you could run as president[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14[/media]

[QUOTE=ewitwins;33052849]That would be where Austin is.[/QUOTE] Good ole Travis county, where all of the rich liberals hang out. Well on the west side anyway. The voting districts are about to be split up, so it may change in the next election. I also find it hilarious how people from other countries (who probably have their faces glued to CNN or BBC) are bashing all republicans and using all sorts of idiotic slanderous remarks, solely based on what they read/heard. Do us a favor and keep your mouth shut, it's getting really old. Isn't all of that liberalism supposed to encompass tolerance? Most of you probably haven't even put a foot on state side soil, yet you judge us. Seems like most liberals/socialists keep a hawk eye on any tiny slip-up by a republican, but entirely cover up idiot obamas' screwups, like saying we have 57 states.

Oh Terry, you are a bit of a plonker arn't you?

[QUOTE=Bomimo;33050352]Duly noted and taken to heart. I shouldn't just cuss off on a limb...[/QUOTE] Thought I'd come out of lurking just to touch on a few things. I'll just preface this by saying that I live in South Carolina, which is as conservative, redneck, and whatnot, as you can imagine. As we all know, anecdotes aren't worth much in the long run since they aren't particularly indicative of the population as a whole, but I guess that's all I really have to run on in this case. I'll also start by saying that there are some things that I can't and don't want to defend in the slightest. I honestly have little faith in this country as well and would rather be living somewhere where the government isn't bickering and trying to make themselves look better than the other half, rather than actually trying to do some good for their citizens. For the sake of briefness, I'm focusing less on politics specifically and more on culture. [QUOTE]The first part was insightful. But both of these things come down to your media and how it's been shaped by consumers really. Not giving a toss about Europe has been a fad for centuries thanks to well, colonial conflicts i guess. In fact, WWII was your first real cooperation with continental Europe if memory serves. So foreign news aren't really important unless it relates to terrorism or (during the cold war) communism. But sometimes you, as a people really show yourselves as barbaric shithurlers. A prime example would be the "Osama be ded" celebration. Over here it didn't take two milliseconds to draw a parallel to the same kind of "celebrations" (riots really) in the middle east. Now that's an incident we couldn't have missed over here if we lived on the moon![/QUOTE] Most of my friends, and the people that I have spoken to about it, were rather uncomfortable at this as well. I cannot even really defend this other than saying that the same types of people who were out in the streets celebrating and singing the patriotic songs and generally making themselves look terrible were generally also the same types who watch Fox News and Glenn Beck from what I can tell. Speaking of Glenn Beck... [QUOTE]But why the hell did Sarah Palin need to be shown off globally? Why is Glenn Beck not institutionalized and just WHY isn't Bill O'Reilly not required to finish his High-School before getting an influential position in the media? There is so much wrong with the way your media handles itself in regards to being generally informative... It's not. It's as unintelligent as Spongebob Squarepants at its worst. That we over here think of the Late Night show as your best attempt at intelligent humour is really bad. (even though it's good)[/QUOTE] I might just be making assumptions (and we all know the saying about assumptions), but I was under the impression that anyone with half a brain is embarassed as hell about Sarah Palin. Glenn Beck and O'Reilly not so much, in the more conservative circles I suppose. Hell, even amongst the more conservative people that I know, Palin is considered an embarassment. Palin keeps worming her way into the media because of how the media tends to work here. It sensationalizes to a ridiculous and painful degree. In a way, Palin keeps popping up not because most people love her but because it's sort of the media's way of going "OH HEY LOOK AT THAT WACKY PALIN, NOW SHE'S GOT HER OWN REALITY SHOW ISN'T SHE SILLY." When you get to Beck and O'Reilly on the other hand, that's where you have to start addressing the overarching problem, and that is that the right-wing IS the cultural heritage of a good portion of the country. It's that dividing factor between the northern half of the country and the southern half. Speaking from experience, having lived in the south for a little more than 10 years now, it is REALLY big on heritage and family. You take an area of the country that is already behind in the area of being progressive, who has only heard, for the longest time, what their parents have told them, and you get one huge setback to the country's progression as a whole. But, in my experience at least, that's changing, slowly but surely. A lot of the people I know have extremely conservative parents, whose parents were extremely conservative, and so on. And yet some of them have the most progressive political and societal views I've seen. I know I'm kind of floundering around with this, I've never been that great in forum debates and such, but basically, what I'm saying is that a lot of the bad reputation comes from right-wing southern idiots who are too steeped in their parents' way of thinking to care, as well as media perpetuating it it due to sensationalism and grubbing for ratings, but that is slowly changing as the newer generations continue to have a more progressive view. I'm not defending the right-wing in the slightest, as it never ceases to utterly appal me. I'm just saying that I see it slowly die down and we can only hope that it starts to die faster. You're justified in having a bad impression of America, of course, with all this. I'm just hoping you can distinguish between nutjobs like Terry Jones who make ALL of us look bad and people that have a bit of sense in their brains, like most of the Americans I have seen in the thread.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33048521]Oh what ho, what do we have here? Another uninformed breaker of Godwin's law.[/QUOTE] Oh what ho, what do we have here? Another uninformed abuser of the term "Godwin's Law". The exact law is: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." [quote]The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. Precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law[/url] anyway with this interlude out of the way feel free to get back to hating Terry Jones.

Terry lost poopularity after the Quran burning, and he wants another 15 minutes of fame. He wants attention he got it.