The mom tries to do everything good, the outcome will be the opposite.
If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
yeah im sure he'll be using it to dial suitcase bombs and whatnot.
[QUOTE=leshrec1;39031343]wtf how can she tell him what music to listen to[/QUOTE]
Sometimes your music tends to tell who you are, and its quite obvious that she's not letting him be who he actually is.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
They do fuck all, really.
I suppose it's better than when I was younger and wanting a phone. My parents told me that if I wanted one I had to pay for it. I didn't mind of course if I could work a job, but the requirements from school were strict. You had to maintain a strict 3.5GPA and regularly do weekly paperwork ensuring you're working under a certain amount of legal hours. Unless you knew someone who could work you odd jobs most kids didn't work unless it was their senior year and they were 18.
Needless to say I went through high school without a phone. I'm not too bothered by it though; there were times it would've come in handy.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
Some of these rules were a bit over the top. methinks the parents are a tad bit technophobic.
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;39031441]The real life example of this would be your average facebook-teenager.
If a tree falls in the forest, and it's not on instagram or facebook in the next 15 minutes, the tree never existed. That's basically how they live their life.[/QUOTE]
Mhm, and that's what I get the feeling this mom is trying to avoid.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
And these things are crucial to learning and development..
If you raised a 'perfect child' who never did bad stuff, got in trouble or a tight spot, what would the kid really know for themselves apart from what you told them?
You'd just have a zombie kid with 0 personality.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39031430]You can't trust books either. It was a long time ago I was doing some report on some biology bullshit and this one book that was recommended turned out to have a fuckton of wrong information. During another instance there was a book about WW2 that also had more than one fact wrong. Not just minor details either.
Anyone who says not to use google and instead use books is a fool and an ignorant person in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
This is true. Not only because of new discoveries and theories, even some modern books have some of those mistakes (Theropods weren't naked like in Jurassic Park nor they had bunny hands), I remember one biology book I had in school that said mammals came from amphibians, like SERIOUSLY?
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;39031474]"Damn, I don't know how to solve this math shit, I'll search for it on the newspaper".
I don't think you understand the difference between these two, right?
[B]Because all questions are math related. And you totally use Google to solve math problems.
wait what[/B]
No you're not, when you go to the library there is actual effort, you need to search for the book by hand, pick the correct one, search for the information, etc.
[B]Less efficient, therefor better. Wonderful logic, I agree. That's why I still send messages via telegram.[/B]
If you use a textbook for ABSOLUTELY everything, yeah. There's a reason why you study a subject before hand, a reason for you to exercise certain aspects, so you don't need to look it up whenever you're given a certain problem.
Point is, there's a difference between using google when you require a certain piece of information and abusing it whenever you're met with a problem, the later being dangerous for a 13 y/o kid which is still growing and developing his wits.
[B]Unfortunately, age does not dissolve credulity.
You have to learn to tell true things from wrong things at some point. And the faster you do it, the better. And if you think your child is naive to the point that they'll do physically dangerous things because they read about it on the internet, then just don't give them a phone. Because they'll probably try to eat it.[/B][/QUOTE]
Kids can be pretty smart if you don't treat them like they're all fucking idiots you know.
she had a good idea it sounds like at first but a fair amount of those rules are stupid and way too controlling.
if you're gonna get a kid an iphone let the damn kid have one.
i think older folks react too negatively to new technology. i understand the whole thing behind not wanting their kids to be mindless drones staring at their phones all the time but the times are changing.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;39031551]And these things are crucial to learning and development..
If you raised a 'perfect child' who never did bad stuff, got in trouble or a tight spot, what would the kid really know for themselves apart from what you told them?
You'd just have a zombie kid with 0 personality.[/QUOTE]
You'd have a kid with zero autonomy.
[QUOTE=PassTheBong;39031378]that moms a fucking cunt.
and this article fucking pissed me right the fuck off.
if i ever find this fucking bitch...[/QUOTE]
Advocating violence for proper parenting? Lol.
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;39031551]And these things are crucial to learning and development..
If you raised a 'perfect child' who never did bad stuff, got in trouble or a tight spot, what would the kid really know for themselves apart from what you told them?
You'd just have a zombie kid with 0 personality.[/QUOTE]
You can't raise a perfect child though. Even then, being perfect does not mean you lack personality. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Being perfect can either make you very respectable and open or very self-centered and egoistic. Being perfect does not magically strip you of your personality.
wheres the actual list of t&c's?
i don't feel like watching the video
It would be kind of funny if the kid refused to sign
I like it how some people are all like, "invading privacy, omg no, where's my freedom, ill sue you!"
But when you will start raising your own child, you'll think just like your parents, it's human nature.
I do however agree that "too much pictures are a no no" rule is stupid. But some of them are really good.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
I used to think this all the time whne my two 13 and 14 year old sisters got a smartphone. I was always so suspicious on what they were doing with the phones until one day out of pure anxiousness I took both phones and searched all over them for bad stuff (I know this was a horrible thing to do). Wanna know what I found? Nothing at all. Maybe one or two stupid kids trying to hit on them and lots of chats with friends about irrelevant shit. They're teens, they're not sex-crazed, psychopath monsters. They're not even that naive and our parents are not strict at all. From that day on I learned to stop worrying and just let them be.
[QUOTE=EpikMonster;39031704]I like it how some people are all like, "invading privacy, omg no, where's my freedom, ill sue you!"
But when you will start raising your own child, you'll think just like your parents, it's human nature.
I do however agree that "too much pictures are a no no" rule is stupid. But some of them are really good.[/QUOTE]
For one I will not force kids to listen to classical music or anything against their choice. Or not allow them to use gadgets at school. I will not force many things upon them. Sure I will try to explain not to do that and yada yada, but we know most teens will do it anyway.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;39031673]wheres the actual list of t&c's?
i don't feel like watching the video[/QUOTE]
In the source, and the full list isn't in the vid
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39031625]You can't raise a perfect child though. Even then, being perfect does not mean you lack personality. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Being perfect can either make you very respectable and open or very self-centered and egoistic. Being perfect does not magically strip you of your personality.[/QUOTE]
What is perfect? Perfectly open minded? Perfectly pious? Perfectly learned? Perfectly trained? Perfectly clever? It doesn't even make sense. The word could mean a hundred thousand contradictory things.
I think the proper phrase is under control. In hand. Not rebellious. Obedient, studious, and diligent. These parents want children just different enough that they can espouse their uniqueness at parties but not too deviant as to seem flawed. Smart enough to come up with top scores but not enough to question. Distant enough from technology that they can brag about how natural they are, but in touch enough to not seem backwards.
They want children that exist in the happy medium of being everything they want them to be while being as quiet and nonabrasive as possible.
The bit about never ignoring a phone call seems a little over-protective and controlling
also, no porn? a 13 year old kid is bound to have his junk activated by then or at least soon, what the fuck is he gonna do?
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031466]And for your sake, I really hope you never have any kids.[/QUOTE]
i hope not either, i would be a terrible parent
i can't even take care of myself, i'm so fucking lazy
What a waste of money, why buy a phone when you can't watch porn on it.
so basically he has the phone for like 4 hours a day on school days?
i dislike this parent
Man, I wish my mom gave me those rules. Then I'd have an excuse for why I didn't text my gf back within 5 minutes of her every text.
[QUOTE=FFStudios;39031495]If you seriously think that a [b]thirteen year old[/b] deserves to have an iPhone without any restrictions, you are either stupid or totally clueless as to what 13-year olds do[/QUOTE]
Parents strict their kids because of the shit they did as a kid, I wouldn't give a fuck if my son does the same shit I did as a kid. I turned out allright, he will too.
[QUOTE=SandvichBL;39031942]Man, I wish my mom gave me those rules. Then I'd have an excuse for why I didn't text my gf back within 5 minutes of her every text.[/QUOTE]
huh yeah women eh!
[QUOTE=SandvichBL;39031942]Man, I wish my mom gave me those rules. Then I'd have an excuse for why I didn't text my gf back within 5 minutes of her every text.[/QUOTE]
You don't need an excuse. If she insists upon it you don't need her either.
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