[QUOTE=ItsMozy;39031477]The mom tries to do everything good, the outcome will be the opposite.[/QUOTE]
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;39031474]"Damn, I don't know how to solve this math shit, I'll search for it on the newspaper".
I don't think you understand the difference between these two, right?
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If I had admitted to my math teacher the percentage of completed math homework that Google did the legwork for I'da never graduated...and I'm not particularly helpless. I could have done the problems on my own, I just couldn't be arsed to take time out of my out-of-school day to do schoolwork.
to think a thirteen year old with access to google won't stab their equations into the search bar is incredibly naive. Google's a great tool, and it does far more than tell you what 3x+5=12 is. But that doesn't mean kids aren't going to abuse the built-in calculator and do a two hour homework assignment in 20 minutes flat. I did, and I was hardly a minority. Hell, even to this day, if I need to convert a measurement I just google it. No point in bothering to look up conversion tables when I can just ask Google, naw mean?
She's got her head stuck so far up her ass she probably doesn't know whether to speak or fart
Haha, I live on Cape Cod too, he'll have fun in school for sure now that this story is everywhere.
But rule #11 about turing it off, silencing it, etc. in public is idiotic. Yeah it could possibly make him
polite, but how will these rules be enforced, and how is he going to know if his parents are trying to call him or not?
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;39032246]Haha, I live on Cape Cod too, he'll have fun in school for sure now that this story is everywhere.But rule #11 about turing it off, silencing it, etc. in public is idiotic. Yeah it could possibly make him polite, but how will these rules be enforced, and how is he going to know if his parents are trying to call him or not?[/QUOTE] "WE TRIED CALLING YOU BUT YOU DIDN'T ANSWER, NO PHONE FOR YOU"
[QUOTE=TestECull;39032078]
to think a thirteen year old with access to google won't stab their equations into the search bar is incredibly naive. Google's a great tool, and it does far more than tell you what 3x+5=12 is. But that doesn't mean kids aren't going to abuse the built-in calculator and do a two hour homework assignment in 20 minutes flat. I did, and I was hardly a minority. Hell, even to this day, if I need to convert a measurement I just google it. No point in bothering to look up conversion tables when I can just ask Google, naw mean?[/QUOTE]I miss the days when hardest assignments could've been done with a basic calculator.
I'd rather not have it all if it was so restricted
[QUOTE=leshrec1;39031343]wtf how can she tell him what music to listen to[/QUOTE]
She's not exactly telling him not to listen to certain music, she's telling him to listen to MORE music, which I can agree with.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;39031568]Because all questions are math related. And you totally use Google to solve math problems.
wait what[/QUOTE]
Completely missed the point, please, can't you tell whats an example or not?
And yes, people do you use google to solve math/physics/whatever
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;39031568]Less efficient, therefor better. Wonderful logic, I agree. That's why I still send messages via telegram.[/QUOTE]
Again, you missed the point by a large margin, I am not saying that "it is better because it is antiquated", what I'm saying is that there's the whole "find it, read, write it down, research, organize" of the library environment is something that you probably won't have on google.
You know, loads of people do their homework by simply googling and copy-pasting in certain schools, and this completely misses the whole reason for the teacher to give that task for kids in the first place.
Oh, and telegrams are still used up to date, old technologies sometimes have their own qualities that makes em' unique.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;39031568]Unfortunately, age does not dissolve credulity.
You have to learn to tell true things from wrong things at some point. And the faster you do it, the better. And if you think your child is naive to the point that they'll do physically dangerous things because they read about it on the internet, then just don't give them a phone. Because they'll probably try to eat it.[/QUOTE]
Again, you missed the point, I am not debating on the smarts of 13 y/o kids, but if the -EXCESSIVE- use of google is bad or not for their development.
those are some pretty bad rules imo
just the whole taking away the phone for the night and no password rule implies that they do not trust the kid, which is a pretty bad thing to do if it's uncalled for
how is this news again
[QUOTE=ThatSprite;39032545]how is this news again[/QUOTE]
it was probably posted on a local news station in a small town where lots of stuff doesn't happen
it's charming really, i'd rather hear about random nonsense like this than a yet another report on guns and shootings
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;39031261]Some of the rules are indeed extreme, but there is quite a few that are noteworthy.
Also, this mother probably never installed any software before, did she?
Abusing google is not ok, you're just training your mind to be lazy.[/QUOTE]
How? If I have no idea what a peacock is I can not just think hard enough and figure it out. Google does not make you lazy until you start googling answers to questions and things of that nature. The internet is a vast source of knowledge and having it at your finger tips is a great thing.
You know, what happened to just having a chat with your kid about the safety involved in communicating over the internet to a less-than-absurd degree? Like, just making sure they're aware of it, because let's be honest, these rules aren't going to help.
Turn in your phone by 7:30? Can't take "too many" pictures? Listen to "acceptable" music? In what lifetime is that going to help the kid, make his experience with the phone any safer, or make the phone any more practical?
She gave him an iPhone? More like she gave him a leash.
[QUOTE=Zareox7;39031029]Why is this a big deal?[/QUOTE]
Slow news day.
I smell soccer mom.
Meanwhile in reality...
I dunno, I carried a dumbphone and didn't give a single fuck about it because it was just a phone. Smartphones were interesting because they're just an extension of a computer with internet for me, which is something I use the fuck out of already at home.
Idiot soccer moms,that is why i refrain from visiting blacklisted countries and avoid communication with them to a minimum.
This is how you get kids to hate you. And then you wonder why.
[QUOTE=IPK;39033193]Idiot soccer moms,that is why i refrain from visiting blacklisted countries and avoid communication with them to a minimum.[/QUOTE]
Blacklisted countries? What? How is that related to soccer moms?
[QUOTE=IPK;39033193]Idiot soccer moms,that is why i refrain from visiting blacklisted countries and avoid communication with them to a minimum.[/QUOTE]
huh?
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14. Leave your phone home sometimes and feel safe and secure in that decision. It is not alive or an extension of you. Learn to live without it. Be bigger and more powerful than FOMO -- fear of missing out.
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This and the other one about leaving the phone at home when he goes to school is so dumb. I thought one of the huge benefits of a phone was that you could always be contactable if something goes wrong.
[editline]30th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;39031261]
Abusing google is not ok, you're just training your mind to be lazy.[/QUOTE]
The human brain is changing, the internet is becoming an extension of it. This is a good thing, it allows us to hold more information in our brains that we need quick access to.
Of course it all goes wrong when you don't have access to the internet.
[QUOTE=Jsm;39033382]This and the other one about leaving the phone at home when he goes to school is so dumb. I thought one of the huge benefits of a phone was that you could always be contactable if something goes wrong.
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You just suffer from FOMO
[quote]5. It does not go to school with you. Have a conversation with the people you text in person. It's a life skill. *Half days, field trips and after school activities will require special consideration.[/quote]
What is the point in giving, sorry, [i]lending[/i] him a mobile phone if he's not allowed to take it with him to the place where he's going to spend most of his time the next few years?
[quote]15. Download music that is new or classic or different than the millions of your peers that listen to the same exact stuff. Your generation has access to music like never before in history. Take advantage of that gift. Expand your horizons.[/quote]
That's fucking easy to get around. Just have it on your computer. Doesn't state that you actually have to listen to it, presto. Besides, what weirdo of a parent forces a music taste on their child?
[QUOTE=Megafan;39032907]You know, what happened to just having a chat with your kid about the safety involved in communicating over the internet to a less-than-absurd degree? Like, just making sure they're aware of it, because let's be honest, these rules aren't going to help.
Turn in your phone by 7:30? Can't take "too many" pictures? Listen to "acceptable" music? In what lifetime is that going to help the kid, make his experience with the phone any safer, or make the phone any more practical?[/QUOTE]
IMO it's because "modern" parents think they understand this stuff (to an extent they do) so they are trying to control it, whereas older parents (ie the parents of relatively older children than the one in the article) don't understand it so for the most part tried to apply common sense to it. Which appears to have mostly worked.
[editline]30th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39033397]You just suffer from FOMO[/QUOTE]
Ah that must be the fear of being involved in a situation where contacting someone for assistance would be a good idea.
(I am assuming your post was intended in a light hearted manner)
That parent is an idiot. Like it or not, cell phones are a major part of communication today.
He's going to end up socially inept.
[QUOTE=JohnnyOnFlame;39032464]
Again, you missed the point by a large margin, I am not saying that "it is better because it is antiquated", what I'm saying is that there's the whole "find it, read, write it down, research, organize" of the library environment is something that you probably won't have on google.
You know, loads of people do their homework by simply googling and copy-pasting in certain schools, and this completely misses the whole reason for the teacher to give that task for kids in the first place.
Oh, and telegrams are still used up to date, old technologies sometimes have their own qualities that makes em' unique.
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Well looks like you've been checking out books on how to talk without actually saying anything, since you don't seem to have anything more substantial than saying that is just doesn't have some vague "library atmosphere".
If I were him I'd sit my mum down and ask her politely if I could have some of the points changed
if not I'd run away from home and live elsewhere, seriously
[QUOTE=itisjuly;39031430]You can't trust books either. It was a long time ago I was doing some report on some biology bullshit and this one book that was recommended turned out to have a fuckton of wrong information. During another instance there was a book about WW2 that also had more than one fact wrong. Not just minor details either.
Anyone who says not to use google and instead use books is a fool and an ignorant person in my eyes.[/QUOTE]In regards to this, the teachers at my school are more than retarded. It's okay to get information from a single website, however, you're not allowed to use Wikipedia. So you'd rather me get information from one person, rather than a massive source that's constantly updated by thousands of people?
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