• Tom Cruise says he's up for Top Gun 2, however only if they don't use CGI at all
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I think that Hong Kong directors would do it justice imo, actors do a lot of insane stuntwork there. Yuen Biao clung a rope attached to a plane 5000 ft into the air in Righting Wrongs.
eh i'd like it better if they used a little bit of cgi, the original top gun is just b-roll footage of f-14s and t-38s, CGI doesn't mean generating the whole thing in a computer, you can use it constructively to splice shots together
It wouldn't be the same without Tony Scott.
[QUOTE=Damjen;48298089]That was way back in 1986. We live in 2015.[/QUOTE] And how does that matter more exactly? Surely the date alone doesn't have an impact.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;48298082]A film that glorifies the air force and the air force wouldn't let them use their aircraft? Come on lad use your brain, they'd probably roll over backwards and let them use whatever they could within reason[/QUOTE] The film's about Naval Aviators, you ponce.
[QUOTE=Damjen;48298048]They will film it without him. No way DoD will let anyone from Hollywood use military jets anyway.[/QUOTE] The DoD has a history of using military aircraft for films. Hell, For Transformers the Air Force used CV-22's, F-22's, F-16's, etc in the filming. It's not unheard of at all, rather common actually. I hate when they overly use CGI in a film. Some CG is good, but practical effects are better to me. The first Top Gun had F-14's doing dogfights with A-4's and F-5E's. Top Gun is still regarded as one of the best. No one can compete. Other ones either had worse special effects or were CG'ed to hell. Sadly we can't use any more Tomcats since the only country with a flying F-14 is Iran, but the Navy would probably use some Super Hornets in a heart beat. Hell, now a days you can even have access to Mig's and Sukhois. If they really wanted too, they could be a super epic movie with very little CG.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;48300701]The film's about Naval Aviators, you ponce.[/QUOTE] Well anyway the forces have a history of being friendly with film, Stargate (tvshow) had so much military help/camios like one time they had an actual generals and a lot of the extras were actual servicemen
[QUOTE=Pilot1215;48300925]The DoD has a history of using military aircraft for films. Hell, For Transformers the Air Force used CV-22's, F-22's, F-16's, etc in the filming. It's not unheard of at all, rather common actually.[/QUOTE] It's just they never did a movie like a Top Gun afterwards. Only lend some of their stuff to Michael Bay and maybe one or two other directors. And not for movies that focused on heavy use of very costly military equipment for more than 5 minutes. What with the whole focus on military in the 2000s it seems rather weird that they didn't try to sponsor a movie like Top Gun, maybe even a sequel, back then. Why would they suddenly do it now, when the US government is pulling the troops back and don't even need a pseudo propaganda piece like Top Gun.
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Even the text in the credits has to be hand drawn onto a long sheet of paper and dragged in front of the camera No CGI, motherfuckers
[QUOTE=Damjen;48298048]They will film it without him. No way DoD will let anyone from Hollywood use military jets anyway.[/QUOTE] They just wont use DoD jets then; fuck em
[QUOTE=Damjen;48300984]It's just they never did a movie like a Top Gun afterwards. Only lend some of their stuff to Michael Bay and maybe one or two other directors. And not for movies that focused on heavy use of very costly military equipment for more than 5 minutes. What with the whole focus on military in the 2000s it seems rather weird that they didn't try to sponsor a movie like Top Gun, maybe even a sequel, back then. Why would they suddenly do it now, when the US government is pulling the troops back and don't even need a pseudo propaganda piece like Top Gun.[/QUOTE] The DoD doesn't write or come up with the idea for the movie... Tony Scott had the ideas for it, but never had time, didn't have the capability to do so, etc... and then he killed himself. Now this movie has another chance and the DoD will probably end up getting involved. They also don't lend stuff to directors... The military and film makers work together. Pretty simple.
top gun is a bad movie
[QUOTE=abcpea;48301966]top gun is a bad movie[/QUOTE] Why?
[QUOTE=abcpea;48301966]top gun is a bad movie[/QUOTE][quote][img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/au.png[/img][/quote] Oh, you're Australian. That explains why you can't experience the surge of freedom flowing through your veins as you watch it (along with other classic 80's action movies that feature the US of A kicking ass and taking names) with your friends and also there's like four cases of beer and fifty pizzas there too. I feel bad for you. :(
It is a bad movie, but its also the only movie out there except maybe the final countdown (a similar movie you should check out if you love aviation) with F14's doing amazing stunts with an awesome terrible 80's soundtrack. Just seeing the F14 with all of its glory makes my dick hard
Top Gun is great what are you people on about?
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;48302765]Top Gun is great what are you people on about?[/QUOTE] Opinions
if top gun 2 will be successful them i'm sure it will [I]gun down[/I] the box office sales
It's an admirable goal. A lot of what made Fury so special was that it's the first time in a very long time that Hollywood has so extensively used real life WWII hardware for filming. CG planes always look super fake, so if they manage to actually film planes in the air, from the air, then Top Gun 2 could be a landmark movie if for no reason other than its special effects. If Top Gun 2 is really going to use F-35Cs, Tom Cruise is going to be waiting for a while because the C is the last to go operational. The B (USMC) is going to be IOC (Initial Operating Capacity) by the end of the year, A (USAF) is late 2016 to early 2017, and the C (USN) at sometime in the 2018-2019 timeframe. I'm pretty sure the first Transformers movie in 2007 was the first to use real life F-22s. For comparison, F-22's were IOC in 2006. [editline]27th July 2015[/editline] The last time I can recall seeing real planes filmed from the air was the Red Flag IMAX movie. There's a lot of beautiful shots that have never been done before to this quality like the formation B-2, B-1, and F-117 shots at 9:36. The movie itself is really awkwardly edited, and they splice in CGI planes every once in a while and it always looks terrible. Still, the aerial photography that actually was done is incredible. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4v6wqxWOo[/media]
Top Gun in my opinion is one of the best movies ever made. Then again, I have been watching the movie since I was an infant...
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;48298082]A film that glorifies the air force and the air force wouldn't let them use their aircraft? [/QUOTE] Huh? You mean it glorifies the Navy. Top Gun had nothing to do with the Air Force.
[QUOTE=abcpea;48301966]top gun is a bad movie[/QUOTE] oh it's awful. that's why it's so good
[QUOTE=paul simon;48301415]Even the text in the credits has to be hand drawn onto a long sheet of paper and dragged in front of the camera No CGI, motherfuckers[/QUOTE] Fun fact: That's how they did the opening for Star Wars :v: [img]https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/1/1/www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/500x_zz05e4da85-550x812.jpg[/img]
Maybe they should do what Gerard Pires did with Sky Fighters (aka [I]Les Chevaliers du Ciel[/I]) from 2005. [video=youtube;HEe3xfWfkG8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEe3xfWfkG8[/video] They actually mounted reconnaisance pods that had cinematography cameras installed in lieu of proper weapons, utilised both lead & chase planes for multiple scenes with a little of CGI for Dogfighting scenes. One interesting note is that, in one scene where they are seen flying over the Bastille Day parade, it's actually real in that the local airspace above & around Paris was under tight security that they had to obtain special permission from both the Armée de l'air (French Air Force) & Ministère de la Défense (Ministry of Defense) to shoot scenes on such a historically important day for France. They could also utilise camera mounts on chase planes, like the one used in this: [video=vimeo;69525065]http://vimeo.com/69525065[/video] "F 7 Skaraborgs Flygflottilj" (aka Skaraborgs AF Wing 7) It wouldn't be as hard as it used to be to make a aerial combat film with minimal CGI, especially in this day & age.
I'd use the Optimistic rating if I could
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