• 'Super Wi-Fi' -- range of 161 Km
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With this I could connect to my moms internet 45 minutes away! Excellent :)
[QUOTE=Dwarfy77;37509572]They aren't increasing range of existing routers, this is completely new, with new frequencies and hardware being the thing that's going to make Super Wifi, well, Super.[/QUOTE] I was using existing technology as an example. Pretty obviously, given the 'imagine'. Go look up wireless congestion you dolt If it's not the signal you want, it's noise, and greater range means more signals which means more noise.
well.. the chinese have managed to fit an entire airport with free wifi and sustain a good connection, this will be a great leap forward for those less able to commit to great technology, e.g. England and America.
[QUOTE=Contag;37510850]I was using existing technology as an example. Pretty obviously, given the 'imagine'. Go look up wireless congestion you dolt If it's not the signal you want, it's noise, and greater range means more signals which means more noise.[/QUOTE] Hopefully this won't become a consumer product that people put in their houses/apartments. In my apartment I can pick up like 30 2.4ghz wifi networks, so I put my router on 5ghz and I get the whole spectrum to myself basically. I'm thinking this could be useful if it was rolled out by a city and they could control how far apart the access points are so they don't get a shit ton of interference.
sweet. now all I have to do is move to Niagara falls and I get free high speed internet from the U.S. And I could watch U.S. exclusive content over the web.
wifi will prob have shitty speeds
[QUOTE=AK'z;37511059]well.. the chinese have managed to fit an entire airport with free wifi and sustain a good connection, this will be a great leap forward for those less able to commit to great technology, e.g. England and America.[/QUOTE] how is that unusual? I mean a lot of airports have free wifi everywhere. Hell my uni is spread across the entire city and the size of the unified login is huge in a sense.
[QUOTE=Kondor58;37508304]Surely if you lived anywhere around this thing you would just always have free internet[/QUOTE] if you are ok with terrible speed internet sure
that latency
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;37508816][IMG]http://puu.sh/11jgw[/IMG] Can't wait for this to be full to the brim, not being able to find my own network [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] If anyone is wondering about the name, my dad had a friend over and I was successful in scaring him that there was a real drone floating about when he was trying to find our network :v:[/QUOTE] I actually get creative with my names for networks. Nothing like "FBI Surveillance Van ___" [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11823009/other/Billwi.png[/img] :v:
it better have more channels than 12
I like how the article makes no mention of the actual technology, but keeps talking about how awesome it's supposed to be. It sounds like a beefier version of WiMAX, although if they used that spec or re-create it entirely remains to be seen.
Not even GSM reaches 161 km. Unless some serious progress has been made in the bandwidth department, people will essentially be surfing on dial-up with this.
now I can browse facepunch while on the shitter
stupidest thing i ever read.(not really) You should understand that router can transmit 160km radius, but your notebook should be able to do the same!, and there isn't any notebook that can have transmission radius of 160km.
[QUOTE=dcalde78;37508285]Tesla would be proud.[/QUOTE] He probably wouldn't give a shit and blame Edison for whatever reason. "Edison? Did you say something? I CAN'T HEAR THE SOUND OF YOUR WHINING THROUGH YOUR COFFIN!" [editline]2nd September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=cucumber;37514379]stupidest thing i ever read.(not really) You should understand that router can transmit 160km radius, but your notebook should be able to do the same!, and there isn't any notebook that can have transmission radius of 160km.[/QUOTE] Having a notebook with a 100km+ range would cause reality to collapse inward on itself. Or something.
[QUOTE=tyanet;37509656]Great, now [I]everyone[/I] is going to be stealing my wifi.[/QUOTE] Put password on it?
[QUOTE=areolop;37512334]I actually get creative with my names for networks. Nothing like "FBI Surveillance Van ___" [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11823009/other/Billwi.png[/img] :v:[/QUOTE] I named my flat's "while(true) do { internet() };"
[QUOTE=wraithcat;37509721]Nah, the wifi would most likely be joinable without a password. But to get an internet connection you would have to put in login details. Any page you would try to load would throw you to the login page.[/QUOTE] But then the computer would still be connected to the network, and then hackers could use this to gain access to computers connected. You might think I am joking, but that is one problem with that method of authentication. Log into one of those networks, check what your IP is (192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x, etc), use nmap to scan that range (192.168.*.*, 10.*.*.*). Wait a while, perhaps a long time; then boom all the computers connected. Then you can do a detailed scan on them and see if any services are running, and I am going to stop here. :) Point is, this method of authentication is terrible. Also my WiFi is called "<name of my town> Asylum For Elders". (My grandparents live with me.)
You could cover 70% of the population of my nation with one of those things.
or... You could make it so you have to add a MAC address to the router so only those specifically added addresses can connect.
[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/XJtrjc.png[/img] mine
hope he has a good password Also if this isn't retrocompatible with wifi devices then it's not good for anything p much
Range like this would require HUGE changes in the fundamental technology of Wi-Fi in order to be effectively implemented. Can you imagine how many people live within a 100 mile radius? I don't know about most people, but even a crowded Starbucks suffers pretty significant drawbacks in internet connectivity, and that's only 10-15 people being simultaneously connected. Also, imagine searching for a Wi-Fi network on your computer or handheld device and returning hundreds of routers from all over your area. Everything about Wi-Fi was designed for small ranges.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;37514960]Put password on it?[/QUOTE] WiFi passwords are easy to crack.
[QUOTE=Vault;37517121]WiFi passwords are easy to crack.[/QUOTE] Well, at least it keeps out the people who have no idea how to do that.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;37517081]hope he has a good password Also if this isn't retrocompatible with wifi devices then it's not good for anything p much[/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with WiFi, which is annoying the WiFi Alliance (The term is actually trademarked, etc.) It just seems to be WiMAX on a different frequency (allowing longer range), you wouldn't be connecting to it directly with your computer, rather you'd be connecting to a base station (over WiFi) and the base station would connect to the main hub. Also, slow speeds, congestion, etc.
[QUOTE=Gnomical;37516305]But then the computer would still be connected to the network, and then hackers could use this to gain access to computers connected. You might think I am joking, but that is one problem with that method of authentication. Log into one of those networks, check what your IP is (192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x, etc), use nmap to scan that range (192.168.*.*, 10.*.*.*). Wait a while, perhaps a long time; then boom all the computers connected. Then you can do a detailed scan on them and see if any services are running, and I am going to stop here. :) Point is, this method of authentication is terrible. Also my WiFi is called "<name of my town> Asylum For Elders". (My grandparents live with me.)[/QUOTE] Depends - if anyone sets it half normally, then as long as you aren't fully authenticated the only communication is going to happen between you and the network hardware. The other computers on the network being unaccesible to you. Hell Most places probably have it set up that you are communicating with the networked hardware only even after auth.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;37514049]Not even GSM reaches 161 km. Unless some serious progress has been made in the bandwidth department, people will essentially be surfing on dial-up with this.[/QUOTE] Range goes up, bandwidth goes down. It would have to be pretty revolutionary
Next up comes huge antennas sticking out of your ~ultra thin~ notebook, not to mention the hotspot transmitters.
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