THC Eliminates Morphine/Herion Dependancies In Rats
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[QUOTE=mysteryman;15915469]
It has been proven that weed is [B]safer[/B] then tobacco and cigarettes.[/QUOTE]
not really but whatever
if you cared about your health at all you wouldn't do either of them
[QUOTE=thisispain;15915481]not really but whatever
if you cared about your health at all you wouldn't do either of them[/QUOTE]
well of course! its impossible to smoke anything without an adverse health effect. notice how i said "safer" though.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;15915504]well of course! its impossible to smoke anything without an adverse health effect. notice how i said "safer" though.[/QUOTE]
Why would we NEED it legalized?
If you honestly NEED weed for pleasure, there's something fucking wrong with you.
What lankist said is entirely true. It's actually better for you potheads that Marijuana remains [B]illegal[/B], as that way, they won't fund research that will find something potentially harmful from weed and have it banned again. Because trust me, they will find something. There's no such thing as a potent drug that doesn't have negative side effects in certain amounts. Rule of "too good to be true" applies here.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;15915469]I have something to say: If you do not support the legalization of marijuana. Give me a REPUTABLE Source of a study saying that marijuana poses extreme health threat.
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I'm going to use a caffeine as a quasi-analogy here, to be honest, it's a crap analogy, but it proves a point. Caffeine was shown in a reputable study to enhance fat loss and raise metabolism, so naturally caffeine starts to get popular again in the fitness community. Later, yet another reputable study shows that while caffeine may support fat loss, it also however, decreases insulin sensitivity over long periods (If you don't understand, it pretty much means: people potentially store bodyfat more easily, and have a higher risk of getting diabetes).
Until the government legalizes weed, you won't see an unbiased, well-funded, reputable study on whether weed is "safe" or not. Hell, LSD has more reputable studies and according to them, LSD is "safe" for short term useage, but you won't find me slipping a tab every weekend.
BTW, next time you use the "show me proof" argument, just remember, you're the one fighting for the drug, the burden of proof is on YOU.
I didn't say pot should remain illegal, I said this is a terrible reason to make it legal for.
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That aside, valid point.
I can also say from first hand experience. Weed really does not screw you up. But i guess this varies from person to person. I grew up well, i live in a nice neighborhood and nothing ever horrible happened to me for me to revert to drug use. I smoke weed quite avidly actually, not a lot though. Maybe 1-2 a month, most just like once a month. Fast forward a year later, i was accepted into the national honor society with a gpa of 3.6. My brother, who did it for years, graduated with first honors this year.
But if you grew up in a horrible location and fell back to drugs, well your results may not be so peachy. You may be struggling in school and start smoking and start failing, but this is not solely the drugs fault. You yourself never applied yourself to school and never cared, weed enhanced that feeling.
essentially: weed enhances feeling, if you are feeling depressed, you may kill yourself or dig deeper into the drug world with cocaine, crystal, and heroin.
For me, and a lot of other i know, it hasn't changed a thing. Seeing as i live in philadelphia and goto school in the city, i see this shit all the time.
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[QUOTE=DireAvenger;15915540]Why would we NEED it legalized?
If you honestly NEED weed for pleasure, there's something fucking wrong with you.[/QUOTE]
Weed could provide a hell of a lot of things. Hemp for once, which is derived from the cannabis plant can be eaten, woven into frabric and clothes, purses and bags.
The us goverment could tax it too, bringing in money.
crime could go down. To get a good idea of this. Think back to prohibition. alcohol was blamed for everything bad, so the us outlawed it. When the us outlawed it, people suddenly gained interested and would do anything for a drink. This is where the mob got a great idea of importing whiskey beer and spirits to America and selling them for big bucks. alcohol smuggling became a serious money making business, of course other will want in on it. Fights broke out for turf, bars and speakeasy burned down. The US saw they made a mistake and legalized it again. When it became legalized, mobsters could no longer sell it for top dollar, seeing as their customers could now buy it cheaply at a store with no consequence law wise. Mob lost interest and with their interest went the beer wars and burning bars.
also if you NEED video games for pleasure, theres something wrong with you
if you NEED your favorite food for pleasure, there's something wrong with you
"Oh but MM videos games and food pose no threat to our health!"
over eating and unhealthy foods pose a serious risk to your health, unless you like adore vegetables.
video games, like i assume you know, have been known to actually become addicting to some players. Like that kid who died of dehydration because he didn't want to stop playing WOW
now I'm going to bed cause i'm FUCKING TIRED.
[QUOTE=professional;15915570]
Until the government legalizes weed, you won't see an unbiased, well-funded, reputable study on whether weed is "safe" or not. Hell, LSD has more reputable studies and according to them, LSD is "safe" for short term useage, but you won't find me slipping a tab every weekend.
BTW, next time you use the "show me proof" argument, just remember, you're the one fighting for the drug, the burden of proof is on YOU.[/QUOTE]
the above can be taken a few ways.
1. nothing ventured nothing gained. Legalization, everything is smooth sailing, then studies pop up about adverse effects, they become incredibly known. becomes illegal, some people still do it, but don't fight for legalization. Like LSD and cocaine.
2. better safe then sorry.: better safe then sorry D:
also i gave you proof; 3 sources!
also their is a key word in here "unbiased" most people believe what they want to believe and refuse to be open minded.
If I were to stop smoking weed for too long, it will would very likely that I'll cause harm to others, because I'm a violent person.
If I were to stop smoking weed for too long, I would very likely buy more, because I'm a chill person.
k so im gon get high
hoyl shit i love drugs, i can feel good whenever i want!
the needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting....
[QUOTE=Squad;15914999]Guys it pointless to argue. Just man up and forget about it. Could probably make this forum better if more people would stop and think before being rude to others.[/QUOTE]
i disagree :smug:
[QUOTE=Lankist;15915589]I didn't say pot should remain illegal, I said this is a terrible reason to make it legal for.
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That aside, valid point.[/QUOTE]
Better reason than "hurr we have the liberty to do what we want hurrr"
Fuck, you might as well not even try making it legal.
[QUOTE=gerard;15916133]Better reason than "hurr we have the liberty to do what we want hurrr"
Fuck, you might as well not even try making it legal.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lankist;15913195]So you're saying you want to pander to the leaders who do not respect your individual liberties, and instead of kicking their asses out of their fancy offices you would prefer to try to compromise with them? You're seriously that thick? You think pandering to their egos and their complete disrespect for individualism and personal liberties is going to solve anything?
Yeah, that makes worlds of sense. Here I am, the idiot, giving a shit about rights. Like, our politicians totally don't care so why should we.[/QUOTE]
Still waiting for a valid rebuttal
[QUOTE=Lankist;15916139]Still waiting for a valid rebuttal[/QUOTE]
Of course I would want to compromise with them. If it means the legalisation of weed, it'd be worth it.
Lankist's plan of strategy: ok guise im gunna post los of big werds on furum n sy we desrv librty n dat y wed shud be lgal, dat shud be gud enuf, betr den scentific studiez
[QUOTE=gerard;15916161]Lankist's plan of strategy: ok guise im gunna post los of big werds on furum n sy we desrv librty n dat y wed shud be lgal, dat shud be gud enuf, betr den scentific studiez[/QUOTE]
Oh wow.
[QUOTE=gerard;15916161]Of course I would want to compromise with them. If it means the legalisation of weed, it'd be worth it.[/QUOTE]
Even though it'd be a matter of months, maybe years if you're lucky, until it's banned again.
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[QUOTE=gerard;15916161]Lankist's plan of strategy: ok guise im gunna post los of big werds on furum n sy we desrv librty n dat y wed shud be lgal, dat shud be gud enuf, betr den scentific studiez[/QUOTE]
I don't recall using any words beyond recognition or understanding.
Maybe you just need to pay more attention in class.
Seriously, insulting me because of proper diction and a wide vocabulary? You know you've lost when you accuse the opposition of being an intellectual.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;15915980]hoyl shit i love drugs, i can feel good whenever i want!
the needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting....[/QUOTE]
Why would you listen to that song when high EVER
It would pretty much ruin my day if I got stoned and listened to that
[QUOTE=Doug52392;15912436]Don't we actually have receptors in our brains specifically designed to process weed?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor[/url]
Clearly, from a scientific standpoint, the creation of a specific G-protein coupled receptor in humans specifically designed to process weed is evidence that weed has been used throughout the history of civilization.[/QUOTE]
You do realize, the body produces cannabinoids, which explains why we have those receptors in the first place.
[QUOTE=gerard;15916161]Of course I would want to compromise with them. If it means the legalisation of weed, it'd be worth it.
Lankist's plan of strategy: ok guise im gunna post los of big werds on furum n sy we desrv librty n dat y wed shud be lgal, dat shud be gud enuf, betr den scentific studiez[/QUOTE]
he didn't say anything remotely near that
if you can't even comprehend his posts correctly then you should just stop posting now and go buy yourself some kneepads and a helmet
[QUOTE=Doug52392;15912436]Don't we actually have receptors in our brains specifically designed to process weed?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor[/url]
Clearly, from a scientific standpoint, the creation of a specific G-protein coupled receptor in humans specifically designed to process weed is evidence that weed has been used throughout the history of civilization.[/QUOTE]
It can't have developed in the last 3000 years, that's impossible.
Also, Cannabis reduces productivity, I am sure of this.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;15916390]It can't have developed in the last 3000 years, that's impossible.
Also, Cannabis reduces productivity, I am sure of this.[/QUOTE]
Then don't smoke it.
What, now the argument is that we should all be good little worker bees? Fuck that.
[QUOTE=Lankist;15916489]What, now the argument is that we should all be good little worker bees? Fuck that.[/QUOTE]
That's my argument, man should strive for the improvement of his own country.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;15916508]That's my argument, man should strive for the improvement of his own country.[/QUOTE]
a country doesn't improve with an extreme of one thing
[quote=silverhammer;15916222]why would you listen to that song when high ever
it would pretty much ruin my day if i got stoned and listened to that[/quote]
its the best song ever for high
[QUOTE=Sh33p;15916508]That's my argument, man should strive for the improvement of his own country.[/QUOTE]
Name one great modern advancement that has come out of the "for the greater good" mentality that didn't entail massive transgressions on ethics and rights and didn't involve the use of slaves, admitted or otherwise.
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I sure as hell can't find a good thing about the Greater Good.
Fuck the greater good. This is a free country. What about individuals? That's why we fucking HAVE a Bill of Rights. Not so we can build a fucking political machine, it's so we can be who we want to be, not what our government wants us to be!
Jesus fuck, it's talk like that which convinced people that the German Socialist Worker's Party was in the best interests of the people. Sure, that party took Germany and turned it into an economic superpower. Then again, THEY WERE FUCKING NAZIS
Just about every totalitarian regime in modern history has come to power by convincing the "Greater Good" was in the best interest of everyone. It isn't.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;15916508]That's my argument, man should strive for the improvement of his own country.[/QUOTE]
Mmm, see, when you start restricting substances for the purpose of having an efficient, no-slacking economy...
I'm pretty sure video games are occasionally detrimental to my work output. But I'd be pretty fucking pissed if someone tried to take them away from me for that reason.
[QUOTE=BaconDioxide;15916631]Mmm, see, when you start restricting substances for the purpose of having an efficient, no-slacking economy...
I'm pretty sure video games are occasionally detrimental to my work output. But I'd be pretty fucking pissed if someone tried to take them away from me for that reason.[/QUOTE]
While we're at it why don't we just assign people jobs based on their physical and mental capabilities. Sure, it completely destroys individual choice, but it sure as hell will advance the country economically!
[QUOTE=Lankist;15916650]While we're at it why don't we just assign people jobs based on their physical and mental capabilities. Sure, it completely destroys individual choice, but it sure as hell will advance the country economically![/QUOTE]
The funny thing is that we occasionally get meritocratic societies like that proposed by 13-year olds here.
Hooray for eugenics.
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