• Jessi Slaughter thread (Post new ones = get banned)
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To be honest i dont think all the Permas were necessary. They just said how they feel, they didnt go "[I]lol i raided her gud, she dun goofed[/I]" or anything. They just said what they think of the situation.
[QUOTE=TH89;23529492] It's definitely a problem we face--if we're too lenient, FP will become even more like 4chan[/QUOTE] I really wish you would stop saying that like it's a common phrase or something. 4Chan [I]is not[/I] a bad site, /b/ [I]is[/I] a bad board. There is a difference.
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529551]SA also has a clear rules list that they stick to. FP does have a rules list, but it's buried away in the Mapping forum and most of the rules don't seem to be enforced anymore.[/QUOTE] common sense son ruining the life of an 11 year old girl is pretty bad, don't you think? [editline]10:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Chickens!;23529558]To be honest i dont think all the Permas were necessary. They just said how they feel, they didnt go "[I]lol i raided her gud, she dun goofed[/I]" or anything. They just said what they think of the situation.[/QUOTE] yeah, and most of the people supported it. which is horrible.
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529551]SA also has a clear rules list that they stick to. FP does have a rules list, but it's buried away in the Mapping forum and most of the rules don't seem to be enforced anymore.[/QUOTE] Don't forget about :10bux: either, that helps limit the kind of people that join in the first place. Far fewer kids can join the forum, and if they do they usually get banned.
[QUOTE=Doomish;23529568]I really wish you would stop saying that like it's a common phrase or something. 4Chan [I]is not[/I] a bad site, /b/ [I]is[/I] a bad board. There is a difference.[/QUOTE] 4chan is a free for all website where everyone posts whatever the fuck they want because it's anonymous and has practically no mods. this is the opposite of what is intended with FP
Well it was not us, what i heard was 4chan posted it in the you rage you loose thread and then shit went down I DO NOT ENDORSE RAIDING NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN TO 4chan
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529441]However, Facepunch is not self-sustaining. The mods banning people for what pretty much amounts to cheap laughs and "we don't like 4channers round these here parts" is going to drive people away and make the site look bad, which will in turn make garry look bad, which will in turn jeopardize FP's survival as a business. I already said two better ways TH could have handled this that would have been examples of good moderation, as opposed to the permaban spree he decided to go on.[/QUOTE] garry doesn't care lol
[QUOTE=TheHydra;23529576]common sense son ruining the life of an 11 year old girl is pretty bad, don't you think? [editline]10:08PM[/editline] yeah, and most of the people supported it. which is horrible.[/QUOTE] What did that have to do with the rules of the forum. And besides, afaik no one here did any raiding.
[QUOTE=Doomish;23529354]I still think stating your opinion is no cause for a ban. OH GEE SUCH AS THE ONE FOUR POSTS ABOVE ME. See, this is what I'm talking about. Anyone who thinks differently than "oh poor her she didn't deserve all that stuff that happened" is instantly permabanned. I'm not even going to SAY what I think because I'm too scared of being perma'd by the mods who may possibly think differently than me. :colbert:[/QUOTE] You're making it seem a lot worse than it really is.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;23529506]you all just couldn't leave it alone. this could have been funny if you all just sat back and watched this girl post more and more rants until she dug herself in a hole with the nude pictures she posted, but no. you had to get involved and fuck everything up, actively try to ruin this girl's life, and get the police involved. any participants that got permabanned today will not be missed.[/QUOTE] quit assuming everyone here who thinks differently than you was part of it
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;23529600]What did that have to do with the rules of the forum.[/QUOTE] i'm saying really stupid shit like this shouldn't have to be in the rules
[QUOTE=TheHydra;23529576]common sense son ruining the life of an 11 year old girl is pretty bad, don't you think[/QUOTE] It is, but we shouldn't be banned for not sympathizing with her. Hell, a lot of the bans in this thread are examples of a common logical fallacy (false dichotomy). TH89 and a lot of the posters in this thread seem to think that if you don't have total sympathy for her, then you're glad she got her life ruined, which is untrue. It's possible to think that /b/ went way too far, but she brought it upon herself by insulting them and in general behaving like an idiot, which is actually the prevalent view among the people that TH89 banned.
[QUOTE=Doomish;23529604]quit assuming everyone here who thinks differently than you was part of it[/QUOTE] everyone here who spoke in favor of the raid was encouraging it and thus a part of it
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;23529600]What did that have to do with the rules of the forum.[/QUOTE] It hardly applies to raiding rules but it's minimal for mods ie, stereotyping is considered racism people are implying they agree to what others are raiding for
[QUOTE=TheHydra;23529642]everyone here who spoke in favor of the raid was encouraging it and thus a part of it[/QUOTE] after it happened?
[QUOTE=Chickens!;23529696]after it happened?[/QUOTE] the raiding is still going on
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529635]It is, but we shouldn't be banned for not sympathizing with her.[/QUOTE] not sympathizing is saying "i don't care". posting "she deserves it" is something totally different and if moderators decide that's not okay, that's it
[QUOTE=TheHydra;23529642]everyone here who spoke in favor of the raid was encouraging it and thus a part of it[/QUOTE] Shouldn't make assumptions.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;23529696]after it happened?[/QUOTE] this "raid" isn't over yet, it's still going on. i'm sure there are a few members of the forum who are still sending e-mails and prank calls and stupid shit. if you support the ruining of a dumb 11 year old girl's life you are a fucking disgusting human being
[QUOTE=thisispain;23529719]not sympathizing is saying "i don't care". posting "she deserves it" is something totally different and if moderators decide that's not okay, that's it[/QUOTE] I elaborated on my point, re-read my post.
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529551]SA also has a clear rules list that they stick to. FP does have a rules list, but it's buried away in the Mapping forum and the rules are rather inconsistently enforced.[/QUOTE] I agree that our rules aren't clearly displayed, and we've recently been talking about fixing that. But SA's rules are quite broad and open to mod interpretation (e.g. "don't flame, unless it's really funny"). Not to mention one of FP's original rules was "just because it's not on the rules list doesn't mean you can't get banned for it."
[QUOTE=WickedIcon;23529635]she brought it upon herself by insulting them and in general behaving like an idiot[/QUOTE] nobody cares except the mods, and the mods care because they don't want people who think e-drama is anything less than annoying to be in this forum [b]this only invites more stupid shit like this[/b] [editline]08:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;23529747]I agree that our rules aren't clearly displayed, and we've recently been talking about fixing that. But SA's rules are quite broad and open to mod interpretation (e.g. "don't flame, unless it's really funny"). Not to mention one of FP's original rules was "just because it's not on the rules list doesn't mean you can't get banned for it."[/QUOTE] if they like this forum so much they can learn their lesson and make another account, i don't see the issue
[QUOTE=TH89;23529747]I agree that our rules aren't clearly displayed, and we've recently been talking about fixing that. But SA's rules are quite broad and open to mod interpretation (e.g. "don't flame, unless it's really funny"). Not to mention one of FP's original rules was "just because it's not on the rules list doesn't mean you can't get banned for it."[/QUOTE] Maybe you should think about putting the forums rules as a sticky in each section, so people know what they are and can avoid incurring the wrath of banhappy mods. That's the way it should've been from the start, in my honest opinion. Not badmouthing the forum or forumgoers, i'm just saying it avoids shit like this.
This thread is like ground zero, good work TH89.
The banner at the top of the forum says to "use your common sense", the problem with that being that a lot of people lack common sense and will say anything to get their funny ratings, and some people will on occasion have a different opinion than the mods, I KNOW, BIG SURPRISE, and while those people may deserve to be banned depending on the harshness of what they say, they don't deserve to be booted from Facepunch and never allowed to return.
[QUOTE=DeVotchKa;23529600]What did that have to do with the rules of the forum. And besides, afaik no one here did any raiding.[/QUOTE] i find it amazing how you're attempting to defend these sick fucks
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23529819]i find it amazing how you're attempting to defend these sick fucks [editline]09:21PM[/editline] i find it amazing how you're attempting to defend these sick fucks[/QUOTE] He's an idiot, and wrong, but from what I've read he's just arguing against a mod's right to interpret the rules.
I'm sorry guys but you can't really argue with the mods, albeit, I don't agree with the bans at all, I thought they were horribly wrong. But, this isn't a democracy.
[QUOTE=Kilr;23529815]This thread is like ground zero, good work TH89.[/QUOTE] There are still like 2 or 3 other threads he or another mod has to comb through. Good work nonetheless.
Dictatorship with privileges?
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