[QUOTE=lulzbocks;22670634]Iran is a theocratic dictatorship.
These type of nations never end well.[/QUOTE]
please name a nation that has ended well.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22678484]Why are people getting all raging over this.
Iran said they had a peaceful civilian nuclear programme, we're just being a bunch of cunts about it.[/QUOTE]
Because it's totally uncalled for to suspect Iran of making nukes?
:ohdear:
Why can't we all suddenly forget how to make nuclear weapons
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22678557]Because it's totally uncalled for to suspect Iran of making nukes?[/QUOTE]
Implying that just because they have nukes they will be used.
Iran might be a bit backwards but they're smart enough to know about Mutually Assured Destruction, and besides a civilian programme doesn't require as highly enriched uranium, and they were willing to trade their enriched stuff for reactor ready material, we just hit them with more sanctions and fucked them around.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22675178]How is what Ahmadinejad said relevant? It's pretty obvious that they don't like Israel and being the theocratic regime they are, it's not hard to see them doing something stupid.[/quote] People use that mistranslation as a pretext to ban Iran of enriching uranium, even though Iran was being pursued about it long before the mistranslation.
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They aren't agreeing to the terms, they are still enriching uranium themselves. It even says in the OP that they passes legislation banning IAEA incpectors from the country for six months. Plus they are even threatening anyone who wants to enforce the sanctions with retaliation. I'm pretty sure it's their fault.[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
I hope you realize that these are all in response to the sanctions received and how any rational nation would react. After signing the NPT and allowing the IAEA into their facilities they still received sanctions. Then they AGREEING to the nuclear swap which was heavily endorsed by the West, the same week Clinton claimed it was to divert sanctions and successfully pushed for sanctions. Iran was still committed to the deal, then a few weeks later, another sanction was proposed, Iran threatened to restrict some access to their nuclear program if it was passed and it got passed.
It’s not their fault.
The Sanctions are in place to stop them from enriching Uranium for bombs and as a response to the sanctions, they are enriching Uranium so it's our fault.
The sanctions are used to stop them enriching Uranium, they aren't working so more are being placed on them. If the sanctions aren't working, they should do something else but Iran certainly isn't justified in going around them. Also the Uranium trading deal was done so they wouldn't have to enrich their own Uranium; since they still are, the problem hasn't gone away and they may as well have not agreed.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;22678842]Why can't we all suddenly forget how to make nuclear weapons[/QUOTE]
Because Iran and North Korea would still try to make nukes.
[QUOTE=mzathemind;22677865]What happens if a taliban gets 25 killstreak?[/QUOTE]
There are no respawns, they can't use it. :downs:
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22679136]The Sanctions are in place to stop them from enriching Uranium for bombs and as a response to the sanctions, they are enriching Uranium so it's our fault.
The sanctions are used to stop them enriching Uranium, they aren't working so more are being placed on them. If the sanctions aren't working, they should do something else but Iran certainly isn't justified in going around them. Also the Uranium trading deal was done so they wouldn't have to enrich their own Uranium; since they still are, the problem hasn't gone away and they may as well have not agreed.[/QUOTE]
I forgot to mention in my previous post that the IAEA ban was a response to the sanctions . Also the increased amount of enrichment was also declared after they got the most latest sanction. Any person would start to think if this is all an attempt to make Iran seem defiant to gain public support for war or just to bully Iran. Obviously sanctions are doing the opposite if what they're supposed to do and as we seen here, they will temp. ban IAEA inspectors and enrich more uranium as a result to the sanctions. The next would be pulling out of the uranium deal.
The IAEA have also sent angry letters to the U.S for over exaggerating and lying about the inspection reports by te IAEA.
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[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5346524.stm[/url]
The sanctions aren't working, I said that. It also doesn't matter if they pull out of the uranium deal as because they are still enriching uranium, the goal of the deal was not reached and it's useless.
Iran is still being a dick about not doing anything, it is defiant to go against sanctions being placed on them but that is a bad thing. The UN is not dealing with it properly as it is not working but Iran is the one not making it work, if Iran is not co-operating they are still to blame.
Wait a sec,[quote]Any person would start to think if this is all an attempt to make Iran seem defiant to gain public support for war or just to bully Iran.[/quote]What? They are being defiant on their own will, any country is bullied when they are doing something as controversial as this, everyone already hates Iran so there's no need to gain support and do you seriously think the US is putting on a show about Nuclear stuff just so they can go to war with Iran?
Has anyone actually read what the sanctions are?
They aren't in any way prohibitive of any aspect of Iran's economy save one; procuring Uranium or other materials or knowledge that leads to proliferation.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22678908]Implying that just because they have nukes they will be used.
Iran might be a bit backwards but they're smart enough to know about Mutually Assured Destruction, and besides a civilian programme doesn't require as highly enriched uranium, and they were willing to trade their enriched stuff for reactor ready material, we just hit them with more sanctions and fucked them around.[/QUOTE]
too bad some arabian countries don't have nukes eh?
MAD doesn't apply
[QUOTE=billeh!;22680470]too bad some arabian countries don't have nukes eh?
MAD doesn't apply[/QUOTE]
Though this is correct you have to consider that the rest of the world won't let Iran nuke some country and go unpunished.
[QUOTE=billeh!;22680470]too bad some arabian countries don't have nukes eh?
MAD doesn't apply[/QUOTE]
The only country they would attack is Israel and Israel is pretty much gaurunteed to have them as well.
i see israel as the lesser of two evils here
The U.S wouldn't be so worried about this if they genuinely didn't believe that Iran could be developing WMD's and shit.
Give them a fucking break, it's not like you see America get all piss-faced because Israel have nukes that I'm 90% sure were given to them by the US. If a country wants nuclear fuel, so be it. But don't start a war before you know what the fuck is going on.
[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;22681226]i see israel as the lesser of two evils here
The U.S wouldn't be so worried about this if they genuinely didn't believe that Iran could be developing WMD's and shit.[/QUOTE]
The US wouldn't be so worried if it actually did [I]not[/I] stick its dick into everything it sees. Our only issue we should be concerned with the politics of the Middle East is free trade and business.
America should get more in touch with its non-interventionist past.
[QUOTE=Mr. Ambleu;22670336]Nuclear launch detected.[/QUOTE]
can you really not differentiate between nuclear warheads and nuclear reactors. they're not really similar at all.
also itt usa vs iran shitshorm.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;22681799]The US wouldn't be so worried if it actually did [I]not[/I] stick its dick into everything it sees. Our only issue we should be concerned with the politics of the Middle East is free trade and business.
America should get more in touch with its non-interventionist past.[/QUOTE]
oil is a pretty big issue, too. not much has changed in the past 20 years in that respect.
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