• UK Soldier Gets Military Cross for Bayonet Charging a Taliban Fighter
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Brain farted. Trying to multi task badly.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;17321477]Yeah, the Germans didn't even count Britain as a land power until during WW1, when they got a nasty shock in the Somme.[/QUOTE] Battle of Mons in 1914 you mean? thats where the BEF successfully halted the Germans. Somme (1916) was pretty much a stalemate, probably the worse piss poor British offensive ever.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;17320560]Do you honestly think that the US would have fought a guerrilla war if they could have fought the British in proper open ground? Yes the Americans beat the British back with guerrilla tactics, but that's the only way they could have to be honest. and this is just further proving my point that this gentlemanly warfare thing is non-existent.[/QUOTE] The 'gentlemanly warfare thing' in the Revolutionary War was ditched pretty quickly. Contrary to popular belief, the British adopted what they called 'light infantry tactics' throughout the war. Anyway, congratulations to that guy. Nothing like cold, hard steel. :D
[QUOTE=RichardNixon;17280607]The British are still using bayonets? pft.[/QUOTE] Are you a complete fucking moron or something? Nevermind, I just checked, you are American.
[QUOTE=antonibell;17324842]The 'gentlemanly warfare thing' in the Revolutionary War was ditched pretty quickly. Contrary to popular belief, the British adopted what they called 'light infantry tactics' throughout the war. Anyway, congratulations to that guy. Nothing like cold, hard steel. :D[/QUOTE] Yeah, Britain invented the rangers and special forces in that time period.
Wait, why? I would imagine bayonet stabbings happen frequently in the course of a battle. Also, typo in OP. Replace British with American.
[QUOTE=antonibell;17324842]The 'gentlemanly warfare thing' in the Revolutionary War was ditched pretty quickly. Contrary to popular belief, the British adopted what they called 'light infantry tactics' throughout the war. Anyway, congratulations to that guy. Nothing like cold, hard steel. :D[/QUOTE] Actually, ditching line tactics for "light infantry tactics" (movement, spacing, concealment, cover etc) would've happened after the first Boer war. Well it might not of happened but they would've put serious thought to it. The British found the Boers particularly hard to deal with, because the Brits were still using the Line combat model (AKA stand bunched together, out in the open, with bright colors on :P) whereas the Boers being experienced hunters fired from prone positions and concealed themselves well. If they weren't firing, they were moving, they never stood in ranks, instead their "formations" were broken and spaced. (Anyone noticing the similarties to basic Infantry tactics of today?)
What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] I wish I could be as cool as you :downs:
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] Someone raged into their keyboard.
[QUOTE=sharaabi;17280734]A rusty bayonet is so much better.[/QUOTE] So if that ass survives, hes gonna be shitting black crap for a while. Then die.
[QUOTE=GunFox;17303907]Yeah. Though American soldiers often wind up with stuff from home in addition to weapons issued. I suppose brits don't really have anything they can bring from home. Man that sucks, never really thought about that.[/QUOTE] Give a british soldier a frying pan, or brick, and you'd probably still find a pile of bodies around him.
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] As war changes so do our expectations. These people who have been awarded the medals never complained, they did their job, and the MoD gave them a rewards for doing so. When people think of war they think of guns and long range combats. Yet a lot of the medals awarded in combat now are to people who do slightly crazy things to take an enemy down or recover a downed unit member. Maybe you should remember that they never asked for this sort of war. This is not a war where the enemy is nice. The enemy will take prisoners, decapitate them and display it all for everyone to see. They will happily video soldiers being killed for use in their propaganda, and our soldiers deserve being remembered for their actions. Look up operation chariot- none of those men who came back could talk about what they did, but are you saying that we should forget their potential sacrifice? Because they did things that they didn't sign up for. The list of medals that were announced cover things like recovering units whilst under fire and tackling a suicide bomber to the ground. Are you saying that we should not recognize those that go beyond the call of duty?
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] Awesome, when you dad goes to Afghanistan and does the same, then you can come back and tell us about your dad's amazing opinions. Till then, ta-ta.
XXXmags post history also shows a telling fascination with people sucking their own dicks and/or taking it up the arse. Something you need to get off your chest? [quote] suck your dick [/quote] [quote] Yeah, more elegant the more you whack it. Smell the undies, even better [/quote] [quote] I would suck my own dick. [/quote] More sage like advice from XXXmags: [quote] Suck your own dick, normally takes care of the problems in life. Just try it ;) [/quote] Obviously if we all spent more time sucking our own dicks and less time awarding soldiers for actions of extreme bravery, the world would be a better place.
[QUOTE=Metroid;17280841]The Marines came to our school. Your not allowed to use rusty knives or anything on the enemy. It's against the conduct of war or something. But i bet they still do.[/QUOTE] Yea, we wouldn't want the enemy getting a DISEASE from a dirty knife and then SURVIVING just to DIE WITH HORRIBLE PAIN, now would we?
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] Go fight in a war before commenting. Besides, you have taken it completely out of context. First, in the age of automatic weaponry (as opposed to in WWI which mostly involved single shot rifles), bayonet charges are becoming increasingly suicidal and are usually the absolute last method of defence a soldier has. Second, if you had actually bothered to read the OP you would realise that he wasn't just killing a random Taliban insurgent but instead preventing a flanking attack that risked his platoon.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;17320560]Do you honestly think that the US would have fought a guerrilla war if they could have fought the British in proper open ground? Yes the Americans beat the British back with guerrilla tactics, but that's the only way they could have to be honest. and this is just further proving my point that this gentlemanly warfare thing is non-existent.[/QUOTE] My original point is that warfare BACK THEN was way DIFFERENT to what it's like now, and comparing America's performance in the 1700s to their performance in the 1960s/70s is redundant. Then you went off on a random tangent, saying that it's more effective to stand in lines and fire all at once (When using C18 weaponry), but I disagreed with that, and America's victory over Britain back then proved me right in that case at least. The reason I call it 'Gentlemanly' is because British commanders viewed guerilla tactics as underhanded, barbaric and uncivilised, and believed both armies should fight as they always had in that era (LET'S LINE UP AND SHOOT EACHOTHER). Then they wised up and started to adopt similar tactics. And no, the Yanks probably wouldn't have fought a guerilla war if their numbers of men and equipment permitted (I never said they shouldn't have either, so I don't get why you're making points that I was never arguing against.), but they didn't have sufficient men/equipment and what I was saying is that that's the origin of modern infantry tactics. [editline]02:51PM[/editline] [QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] Let me sum up the few posts before mine for you: You're an idiot, and so is your dad. And no, people don't get awarded medals for "whining". Extreme circumstances forced him to use the bayonet.
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;17336197]And no, the Yanks probably wouldn't have fought a guerilla war if their numbers of men and equipment permitted[/QUOTE] They had more men and more guns than the British. Hell there was nearly as many French regulars as there was British.
[QUOTE=Anteep2;17301756]no, UK have always fought wars a lot better than the american however US militia starting 1776 eventually beat british colonial forces however all US military failed to beat vietnam farmers[/QUOTE] Conventional tactics =/= guerilla tactics
[QUOTE=NoDachi;17336290]They had more men and more guns than the British. Hell there was nearly as many French regulars as there was British.[/QUOTE] Oh? I seem to have been misinformed then. In that case, why DID they adopt guerilla tactics?
The Americans simply did not have as much training as the British had.
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;17336309]Oh? I seem to have been misinformed then. In that case, why DID they adopt guerilla tactics?[/QUOTE] I don't think they did, as the dominate doctrine.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;17336375]I don't think they did, as the dominate doctrine.[/QUOTE] Hold on, I'm going to go watch patriot again... :v:
[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;17336416]Hold on, I'm going to go watch patriot again... :v:[/QUOTE] In fairness, I don't think The Patriot can be considered entirely accurate...
The Patriot is nothing more than Hollywood demagogy.
[QUOTE=David29;17336433]In fairness, I don't think The Patriot can be considered entirely accurate...[/QUOTE] Slight understatement there :v:
/facepalm I thought you'd understand that I was trying my hand at humour once you saw the :v:
[QUOTE=XXXmags;17331590]What a bunch of shit, giving this guy a medal for killing a guy with a knife, did someone forget the times dudes had to use knifes in the great war? world war 2? 'nam? red afgan? Fucking load of crap. You don't hear old jap vents whining about having to get down and dirty. It's war for fucks sake. The jerk probly went around whining how he had to use a knife the pussy, and they gave him a medal to shup him up and use him as propaganda. Is this what the redcoats ended up being? a bunch of whiny pussies? Like my dad said when he saw this "This guy looks like he takes it up the ass".[/QUOTE] Get the fuck out seriously, I would love to see your scrawny little ass out there in Afghanistan. Your sat their at your pc typing shit about him when he is serving his country and fighting a war that the UK shouldn't even be in. Oh and tell your dad the same thing, bet he is a fat fuck on the dole who just sits around all day watching the news and criticizing everyone when he is a nobody himself. Fuck sake you people piss me off.
[QUOTE=Chippy!;17337278]Get the fuck out seriously, I would love to see your scrawny little ass out there in Afghanistan. Your sat their at your pc typing shit about him when he is serving his country and fighting a war that the UK shouldn't even be in. Oh and tell your dad the same thing, bet he is a fat fuck on the dole who just sits around all day watching the news and criticizing everyone when he is a nobody himself. Fuck sake you people piss me off.[/QUOTE] Dude you better edit your post. He's clearly a highly experienced ex-operator with 14 years of clandestine operations under his belt. He was trained in the secrets of Delta by his father to prepare him for the rigors of the CIA's Ninja Black ops programme. Overcoming lowly human fear and stabbing his enemies is as simple as breathing for him. But most of all, he is [B]not to be fucked with.[/B] :ghost:
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