• Intel Haswell Comes with 14 Cores and 35 MB L3 Cache
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[QUOTE=Metalcastr;36558413]This is probably a server grade processor, a jump from 4 to 14 is too much for one generation.[/QUOTE] Consumers can't handle them cores. [QUOTE=Naaz;36558050]Next Broadwell... What the hell is Skylake going to be like? Holy crap! [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/IntelProcessorRoadmap-3.svg/1000px-IntelProcessorRoadmap-3.svg.png[/IMG] I love this image, although it depresses me... Let's just say I'm on a Coppermine. PIII. Errrrrr.[/QUOTE] Wolfdale reporting in. Still plays games like ME3 (on a x1600 lol) at 25 fps. NEVER UPGRADE.
I got a Sandybridge i7-2600k about a week before Ivy Bridge came out and felt like a moron. Now I don't feel so bad because I can just wait for this to come out and then down in price. EDIT: Oh shit, this'll probably be more in the price range of a Xeon if it's server grade...
I'm guessing the consumer ones will be 8 core?
[QUOTE=Silikone;36562158]I desperately need to buy a new video card within a month or two, but I fear that it will be a bottleneck. Is it a bad idea to mix a last-gen GPU with a next-gen CPU?[/QUOTE] Depends on the game / application. I'd say GPU's become the bottleneck most of the time though unless you are using SLI / Crossfire, I am using a QX9650 with a 480 and in MOST games the 480 still bottlenecks the CPU with a few exceptions being BF3 and games that don't take advantage of multiple cores. Bottlenecking isn't some mystic force that's going to make your computer shit though. [QUOTE=Cookieeater;36560459]The cores aren't all lost though. Things like real time ray tracing can actually be a reality.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;w9SH8xlgzoI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9SH8xlgzoI[/video]
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;36550601]That's what they said about dual cores and 512MB ram too and look where we are now.[/QUOTE] Yea but, what game needs 14 cores?
[QUOTE=Not Flapadar;36550285]That's the case with CPU's anyway. Most people ignore HD performance and get a regular SATA2/3 7.2krpm. Throw an SSD, decent CPU and decent graphics card in (with even 1333mhz RAM) and you won't bottleneck anywhere unless you're doing extremely intensive stuff. [editline].[/editline] IOPS is the largest hindrance a system can have.[/QUOTE] agreed having a ssd makes a HUGE difference in a good system
[QUOTE=bohb;36561305]Quick! Everyone must pitch in to get this man a better computer! I'll start the bidding with an Intel Desktop Board and a Pentium 4 640 (3.0 GHz)[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of snide jokes. Only I get to make those. And my other computer has a P4 anyway, but something is terribly wrong with it and I don't know what.
Maybe i can finally spawn 10,000 birds in web power game without lag :dance:
Oh shit
[QUOTE=newbz;36560201] If you're not a computer scientist or did not understand what I just said, ignore the last paragraph.[/QUOTE] Who the fuck uses the title "computer scientist?" I mean, I know the title and field both exist, but who seriously refers to themselves as such?
[QUOTE=Xyrec;36550302]I still have an Intel Bloomfield :suicide:[/QUOTE] hi, wolfdale here.
hi prescott here
8088 here.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;36550302]I still have an Intel Bloomfield :suicide:[/QUOTE] I have NetBurst, you ain't got nothing on me!
[quote]The very first details about the actual microprocessors based on code-named Haswell micro-architecture for mainstream desktops and notebooks have emerged on the Internet. Instead of increasing the number of cores inside its microprocessors, Intel Corp. will continue to improve efficiency to boost performance amid aggressive lowering of power consumption of chips. Intel Haswell microprocessors for mainstream desktops and laptops will be structurally similar to existing Core i-series "Sandy Bridge" and "Ivy Bridge" chips and [B]will continue to have two or four cores [/B]with Hyper-Threading technology along with graphics adapter that shares last level cache (LLC) with processing cores and works with memory controller via system agent, according to a slide (which resembles those from Intel) published by [URL="http://www.chiphell.com/thread-308643-1-1.html"]ChipHell [/URL]web-site. On the micro-architectural level the chip will be a lot different: its x86 cores will be based on the brand new Haswell micro-architecture and its graphics engine based on Denlow architecture will support such new features as DirectX 11.1, OpenGL 3.2+ and so on. The processors that belong to the Haswell generation will continue to rely on dual-channel DDR3/DDR3L memory controller with DDR power gating support to trim idle power consumption. The chip will have three PCI Express 3.0 controllers, Intel Turbo Boost technology with further improvements, power aware interrupt routing for power/performance optimizations and other improvements. What is important is that Haswell-generation chips will sport new form-factors, including LGA 1150 for desktops as well as rPGA and BGA for laptops. The new processors for mobile applications will continue to have thermal design power between 15W and 57W (15W, 37W, 47W and 57W) for ultra low-voltage and extreme edition models, respectively; while desktop chips will have TDP in the range between 35W and 95W, just like today. However, in a bid to open the doors to various new form-factors, such as ultrabooks, Intel implemented a number of aggressive measures to trim power consumption further even from the levels of Ivy Bridge, including power aware interrupt routing for power/performance optimizations, configurable TDP and LPM, DDR power gating, power optimizer (CPPM) support, idle power improvements, latest power states, etc. The most important improvements of Haswell are on the level of x86 core micro-architecture. It is believed that the new MA will be substantially different from current Nehalem/Sandy Bridge generations, which will enable further scalability and performance increases. Besides, Haswell will support numerous new instructions, including AVX2, bit manipulation instructions, FPMA (floating point multiple accumulate) and others. Denlow graphics core of Haswell will also sport substantially boosted performance and will also be certified to run many professional applications. Intel did not comment on the news-story.[/quote] [IMG]http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/2011-11/intel_haswell_diagram.jpg[/IMG] [URL]http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111109230549_First_Details_About_Intel_Haswell_Emerge_2_4_Cores_Graphics_DDR3_Low_Power.html[/URL] The one with 14 cores is Haswell-EP (Enterprise platform) [URL]http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-haswell-ep-platform-detailed/16419-1.html[/URL]
My backup PC has a Intel Celeron 2.4Ghz. I truly hate my backup PC (nothing says fun like running Call of Duty 1 on lowest settings possible)
I bought a i7-3770K a week ago.. Fuck.
I'm going to point out to everyone thinking it's a server processor due to the core numbers, it's actually not. They lowered the performance of each core so they drew less heat, then added a lot more cores to compensate. It's more complicated than that but that's the basic principle.
This is coming next year? Maybe then I can replace my Q6600 finally.
[QUOTE=newbz;36560201]The graph of CORES V.S. CORES would be: y=x An more interesting graph would be CORES V.S. DIFFICULTY TO PROGRAM (IN UNITS OF CORES) Which would probably be exponential. I'm guessing the difficulty would be O(n^c), where O is big "O" notation and c is the amount of cores. If you're not a computer scientist or did not understand what I just said, ignore the last paragraph.[/QUOTE] Oh shit man you know Big Oh notation!! Man you you must like, see the world in binary or some shit?!
I haven't really felt the need to upgrade from Q6600, considering that even BF3 runs just fine on high settings, even with a graphic card like GTX 260.
My lecturer told me the Big Oh of a PNG file was 5. Do you know if that is true or not? [editline]1st July 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=SlashSpeed;36575070]I haven't really felt the need to upgrade from Q6600, considering that even BF3 runs just fine on high settings, even with a graphic card like GTX 260.[/QUOTE] Same tbh. Though for laptops, a friend of a friend of a friend in my own Computer Science circles tells me Apple are waiting for this chip to give their 13 inch laptops retina displays, so if that comes true then look out for a lot of high DPI laptops coming out (from Apple and others)
Well my Wolfdale E-fucking-8400 is still running like a beast, overclocked to 3.8 from 3.0 stock, it's a god damn monster! (I need a new CPU... It's bottlenecking my HD6870 terribly)
Athlon II X3 435 here. :suicide:
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