Hugo Chavez's last words: "I don't want to die. Please don't let me die"
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[QUOTE=smurfy;39834585]AFAIK he was kind of like Putin. Not authoritarian in the 'death squads roaming the streets' way, but authoritarian in the 'state media and courts biased towards him, opposition has no chance of getting elected' way.[/QUOTE]
The elections were good though. He has wide public support because he throws money at poor people. But he fucking ruined the economy.
[QUOTE=Riller;39834751]Pretty much this. Granted, he died a natural death so it's not like we're celebrating a murder; but I always feel it's wrong to be happy for a death. I'm still happy that he's gone; but I'm happy on the ways of the Venezuelan people who might just get a change but honestly probably won't, not happy because a dude is dead.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, exactly. You can be happy for the Venezuelan people, but a life is a life. It's never anything that justifies anyone getting killed.
We can take a good example, with Gaddafi. I was happy to hear that they finally got rid of him, but I wasn't happy that he died. And seeing people put sticks up his ass, that's when humanity breaks.
Talking shit about someone terrible after their death isn't anywhere close to "stepping down to their level"
Whether it's fine or not is completely subjective.
"Also...", reports the general, "he said that I am like his best friend and he wants me to be the new leader."
Respect for a dead bad dude is hard to pull off in many cases though, [I]especially[/I] when you didn't personally experience what bad things he did. Another Gaddafi example, the people had to pull off an armed revolt against a dude that was having his own citizens killed by the hundreds because they showed a sign of dissatisfaction to his rule. Those people were put through a living hell by him, so when they finally got him, they finally got to physically SEE the physical body of the person that had done those things to him, thats when they finally got a chance to let loose on the source of their torment.
Yeah, sticks up the ass is extreme, but look at it from their perspective... They finally got rid of the source of their torment. To us its extreme, to them its a "TAKE THAT YOU UGLY FAT FUCK, THIS IS FOR DESTROYING COUNTLESS LIVES"
Its easy to criticize the actions people take when you have zero personal context.
Where's the facepuncher who was from Venezuela? He was rather speechless in the thread announcing Prez's death. I'm interested to hear his opinion on this if he's willing to share it.
While I'm not a fan of Chavez, that's pretty sad.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;39834493]Not exactly an Augustus Caesar when it comes to last words.[/QUOTE]
Great, now some latter day Shakespeare is going to write a biopic about him and turn those two sentences into a fifteen page monologue about the nature of mortality.
[QUOTE=TheCreeper;39834859]That makes you just as bad as that guy who vandalizes dead corpses.[/QUOTE]
Saying mean things on Internet = mass murder
[QUOTE=polarbear.;39834815]I never understood this logic. Why respect someone who was evil and caused innocent people to suffer? There are drug barons who murder and vandalize the dead corpses of others, so they are humiliated after death as well. They give zero fucks about your honor, why should you care about theirs? A guy who puts a gun to your face and says "You are going to die", while you cry "I don't want to die, please don't let me die" and you die in fear, would you respect him when he dies the same death?
I'm not talking about Chavez (idk what he did) or any person in particular, just in general. Maybe I misunderstood, but I don't get the point of treating the dead with respect when they were bad people.[/QUOTE]
they are human, still. i don't care about "respecting their death" or any of that bullshit. i have empathy for the fact that they were suffering and scared when they did die. it's sad and unnerving because i know that [i]i[/i] wouldn't want to die in that fashion.
I would be just as terrified
[QUOTE] ... 'I don't want to die. Please don't let me die,'[/QUOTE]
lol pussy
[QUOTE=Butthurter;39835627]i like double standards, we go from making puns about innocent people dying to respecting a hated man because he naturally succumbed to the fear of dying[/QUOTE]
I'm okay with making puns and jokes at death. I'm not okay with people saying they're happy someone died.
interesting how once a news story appears that portrrays him as, y'know, an actual human being who died before his time you all become so much more sympathetic
interesting reading for those who said in the other thread: 'i cant understand all you pussies not celebrating the death of another human being'
[editline]7th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=shrektheturd2;39835611]lol pussy[/QUOTE]
never mind
good, hated that bastard, glad he died in fear like a coward.
[QUOTE=Septimas;39834370]Who gives a shit he was a huge fucking asshole who caused thousands of people's deaths anyway.
Karma caught up with him. I bet the people who inadvertently died because of him mouthed that also. OR yelled it.[/QUOTE]
whoa hey even if he's an asshole
don't be an asshole about it
[QUOTE=tr00per7;39835707]good, hated that bastard, glad he died in fear like a coward.[/QUOTE]
so you aren't afraid of dying?
[QUOTE=laserguided;39835800]so you aren't afraid of dying?[/QUOTE]
We should [del]almost[/del] kill him to prove a point
[QUOTE=tr00per7;39835707]good, hated that bastard, glad he died in fear like a coward.[/QUOTE]
Yeah lol dying of cancer is for cowards.
I'm glad he's no longer the president of Venezuela.
I'm glad he's no longer capable of causing pain to the people he oppresed.
I'm glad those who have been living in fear of him might sleep a little easier at night.
I'm glad those who have lost something or someone to him might find peace.
I'm glad he died surrounded by people he knew and who cared; in one way or another.
I'm glad he is going to be buried with dignity and honour, and not humiliated like Gadaffi.
But I'm not happy because of the actual fact that he is dead; and certainly not that he died seemingly without being at peace with it. That would just be mean of me to be. I'm happy about most everything his death [I]means[/I], but not the death itself.
Of course he didn't want to die, he was a fucking authoritarian dictator who's ego was so massive that he almost thought he couldn't die.
Sorry pal, no matter how much power you have, everybody dies.
That sucks. Being horrified of death and knowing that you're gonna die soon.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;39836003]That sucks. Being horrified of death and knowing that you're gonna die soon.[/QUOTE]
It happens to the majority of people who are going to die soon, it's natural because of the instinct of self-preservation I guess.
[QUOTE=Persious;39834599]No one deserves to die, no matter what. Death is never justified.[/QUOTE]
That's the thing about a natural death. It doesn't need to justify itself.
Yeah, because now Venezuela is a better place. We just need to wait until all the people who voted for him repeatedly to die also.
It's kind of diffirent from Gaddafi. How? Because without him the Libya is a better place. Chavez died. And that's it, he just died. Nothing else changed. So "celebrating" his death, unlike Gaddafi, you're "celebrating" [b]just[/b] his death and nothing else. Not the end of an era of oppression.
That's why I think that you "glad he ded" people are not just insensitive or something. You are stupid. And that's worse.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;39834815]I never understood this logic. Why respect someone who was evil and caused innocent people to suffer? There are drug barons who murder and vandalize the dead corpses of others, so they are humiliated after death as well. They give zero fucks about your honor, why should you care about theirs? A guy who puts a gun to your face and says "You are going to die", while you cry "I don't want to die, please don't let me die" and you die in fear, would you respect him when he dies the same death?
I'm not talking about Chavez (idk what he did) or any person in particular, just in general. Maybe I misunderstood, but I don't get the point of treating the dead with respect when they were bad people.[/QUOTE]
I never ever told you to respect someone after his death but to respect his death. Going on all around "hah fucking prick he deserved it goddamn moron" just shows how immature and unpredescent you are towards his death. What if it happened to your parent, and then some lousy neighbour who always hated your parent just comes up to his grave and spits on it with words "Got what you deserved, dipshit"?
I can totally agree that he did deserve it and I am glad that Venezuela is finally getting a new chapter in its book, but, please, if you're really that apathetic don't make a grudge out of it.
[QUOTE=Persious;39834599]No one deserves to die, no matter what. Death is never justified.[/QUOTE]
"The only certainty in life is death". It's safe to say that EVERYONE deserves to die.
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