Russia: Somali pirates freed 300 miles offshore may have drowned. No shit.
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In Democratic Russia: You walk plank.
It's good that Russia are getting shit done though.
"When you released them at sea you gave them a boat, right?
Right?..."
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Putin then ran them over with his boat.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;21898081]You try swimming 300 miles to land.[/QUOTE]
Well, they actually had a boat. The thing is, they had no navigation equipment, so unless they can navigate by the stars (I'm guessing they can't) they're pretty much doomed.
[QUOTE=Drainwater;21898163]What else could the Russians have done? They couldn't take them home for trial and they sure as hell weren't going to drop them off on the shore. [/quote]
Those are both things they could have done and in fact are what most people usually do
[quote] Taking their navigation equipment was kind of a dick move, but hey, those pirates knew the risks.[/QUOTE]
Taking their navigation equipment was tantamount to murder. That's really the problem here. You're not supposed to murder people who commit crimes, you're either supposed to try them for their crimes or just commandeer their weapons.
[QUOTE=radioactive;21899001]In Democratic Russia: You walk plank.[/QUOTE]
Please, not this joke.
They steal our boats, we steal theirs.
Russia is so badass. i'm gonna buy Rosetta stone: Russian just in case shit happens.
No navigation system
No engines
No boat
Final destination
Western world to pirates: You've attempted to cause millions of dollars in damage and you took hostages. You're going to be transported to a (Relatively speaking) comfortable cell, and tried in a court of law.
Russia: You've attempted to cause millions of rubles in damage and you tried to take hostages. Hope you can make it back to land so we can hunt you down later...
[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;21894978]"We will hold Russia responsible if any harm comes to them," said a pirate commander, Abdi Dhagaweyne.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah well, who gives a shit.
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[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;21895034]who the fuck cares, theyʻre some scum of the earth who have nothing better to do than be thugs[/QUOTE]
Go live in Somalia and say that.
[QUOTE=TH89;21904195]Go live in Somalia and say that.[/QUOTE]
I believe he was talking about the pirates, not the entire country.
Put them on a liferaft in the middle of the pacific. They'll be forced to drink the salt water and dehydrate themselves
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[QUOTE=Falineir;21906646]I believe he was talking about the pirates, not the entire country.[/QUOTE]
They're pirates because they're forced to.
I think Putin does silly things just so the internet can use those pictures.
International Maritime Law should just be amended to allow merchant ships' crews to carry firearms.
[QUOTE=Tanner;21907836]International Maritime Law should just be amended to allow merchant ships' crews to carry firearms.[/QUOTE]
Yep, it should. Personally if I was on a ship that was in danger of piracy I would definitely smuggle a gun on board.
I love you Russia. :buddy:
Somalian pirate weeee
[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;21895034]who the fuck cares, theyʻre some scum of the earth who have nothing better to do than be thugs[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck agrees with this?
They have two choices. To starve or become pirates.
They have families to feed, show some basic human compassion instead of complaining about economic losses.
You shouldn't be allowed to live with such a fucked up view of the world.
[QUOTE=Tanner;21907836]International Maritime Law should just be amended to allow merchant ships' crews to carry firearms.[/QUOTE]
Right. So Pirates will start taking these ships with lethal force?
Good. Fucking pirates don't deserve a trial.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;21908313]Right. So Pirates will start taking these ships with lethal force?[/QUOTE]
They do it anyway, it's actually not "piracy" in a sense they just take the defenseless crew hostage and hope for a nice ransom. If the crew is trained and armed, pirates would think twice before having at it.
let's give out letters of marque again
[QUOTE=The_Fly56556;21908351]Good. Fucking pirates don't deserve a trial.[/QUOTE]
Hell yeah let's go back to stoning people to death those were the days
Who is Putin?
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[QUOTE=TH89;21912885]Hell yeah let's go back to stoning people to death those were the days[/QUOTE]
I honestly wouldn't have a problem with that.
Don't commit crimes and you won't be stoned to death. It's that simple.
And why is everyone saying "We should be helping *Insert African country here*.
It's not like any other country really had help.
Not our fault they're still living in their little mud huts. There's a picture portraying that quite well somewhere around the internet.
Then there's people saying "They're living in poverty! They're committing the crime out of necessity!"
No, fuck off. A crime is a crime, they're holding people hostage with guns.
There are other ways to make money and get yourself out of poverty, it just takes half a brain and some patience.
Of course some big powers have a major influence in some African countries that might make it hard for the people there to live their lives,
(See Congo) and I understand that and I think that it's those cases that we should pay attention to. No one else really has an excuse.
If you disagree with me do reply, I'd like to know your point of view and why.
[QUOTE=Heroms;21913928]I honestly wouldn't have a problem with that.
Don't commit crimes and you won't be stoned to death. It's that simple.
And why is everyone saying "We should be helping *Insert African country here*.
It's not like any other country really had help.
Not our fault they're still living in their little mud huts. There's a picture portraying that quite well somewhere around the internet.
Then there's people saying "They're living in poverty! They're committing the crime out of necessity!"
No, fuck off. A crime is a crime, they're holding people hostage with guns.
There are other ways to make money and get yourself out of poverty, it just takes half a brain and some patience.
Of course some big powers have a major influence in some African countries that might make it hard for the people there to live their lives,
(See Congo) and I understand that and I think that it's those cases that we should pay attention to. No one else really has an excuse.
If you disagree with me do reply, I'd like to know your point of view and why.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you.
[QUOTE=Heroms;21913928]I honestly wouldn't have a problem with that.
Don't commit crimes and you won't be stoned to death. It's that simple.
And why is everyone saying "We should be helping *Insert African country here*.
It's not like any other country really had help.
Not our fault they're still living in their little mud huts. There's a picture portraying that quite well somewhere around the internet.
Then there's people saying "They're living in poverty! They're committing the crime out of necessity!"
No, fuck off. A crime is a crime, they're holding people hostage with guns.
There are other ways to make money and get yourself out of poverty, it just takes half a brain and some patience.
Of course some big powers have a major influence in some African countries that might make it hard for the people there to live their lives,
(See Congo) and I understand that and I think that it's those cases that we should pay attention to. No one else really has an excuse.
If you disagree with me do reply, I'd like to know your point of view and why.[/QUOTE]
It's easy to say that from the comfort of your computer and not having to worry about starving to death or getting hacked to death by marauding warbands.
Most of the piracy that has occurred off the horn of Africa is due to foreign companies overfishing that area and breaking off a vital economic pipeline for an already impoverished area. That's why piracy has spiked up around there.
As for Russia, that's a cold action but unfortunately few can see the situation outside of a good and evil perspective. I would expect a nation like Russia to at least act more civilized than that.
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[QUOTE=Heroms;21913928]I honestly wouldn't have a problem with that.
Don't commit crimes and you won't be stoned to death. It's that simple.
And why is everyone saying "We should be helping *Insert African country here*.
It's not like any other country really had help.
Not our fault they're still living in their little mud huts. There's a picture portraying that quite well somewhere around the internet.
Then there's people saying "They're living in poverty! They're committing the crime out of necessity!"
No, fuck off. A crime is a crime, they're holding people hostage with guns.
There are other ways to make money and get yourself out of poverty, it just takes half a brain and some patience.
Of course some big powers have a major influence in some African countries that might make it hard for the people there to live their lives,
(See Congo) and I understand that and I think that it's those cases that we should pay attention to. No one else really has an excuse.
If you disagree with me do reply, I'd like to know your point of view and why.[/QUOTE]
In the end it comes down to circumstance. When you are born into poverty, war and violence with little to no means of climbing out sometimes you have no options and jsut do anything to meet your necessities and get out alive. I do not see many stories of them killing their hostages, even when a family cannot afford the ransom they normally fund-raise it.
And when you say it takes half a brain to get out of poverty. Please elaborate. I think its safe to say that the eductaion available to these pirates was not cutting edge. I'd love to hear your method for getting out of poverty as long as it doesn't involve me getting an email that I won some contest in Nigeria.
Yes they did commit a crime. And their motivations were primarily monetary. But who knows what that money was going to be used for. To get their families out of poverty, to feed their children, to live a better life or possibly to do drugs but i doubt it.
Saying things like its not our fault they live in their "little mud huts"is extremely close minded and ignorant. You could just as easily be in that mud hut, except you lucked out. /My point of view
OT What the Russians did was a bigger crime that what they did and they should be held responsible but they are lucky their are no laws about it.
[QUOTE=Heroms;21913928]Then there's people saying "They're living in poverty! They're committing the crime out of necessity!"
No, fuck off. A crime is a crime, they're holding people hostage with guns.
There are other ways to make money and get yourself out of poverty, it just takes half a brain and some patience.[/QUOTE]
Please, tell us how you got yourself out of poverty in Somalia.
Also, if you honestly believe that anyone accused of a crime should be put to death without a trial, there is something wrong with you. That's not meant as an attack or anything, I'm serious. That is pretty sociopathic thinking.
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