Pence tamps down rally-goer’s talk of anti-Clinton revolution - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sally;51192792]Hate crimes?[/QUOTE] Yeah didn't you know the only thing keeping the KKK from lynching people again is if Thrump wins?

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192726]No he didn't. Stop over exagerating. You are taking his words and misrepresenting them. If you are going to play that game, Hillary Clinton wanted Obama to be assassinated in the 08 race with that kenndy comment.[/QUOTE] As bad a Clinton’s comments in 2008 were, it's not quite the same. Trump implicitly told people that the only way to stop Clinton from appointing judges after she was elected was action on the part of "secondary amendment people". Clinton was asked why she wasn't dropping out and replied that Bobby Kennedy was killed in June in California. Predicting your rivals possible assassination is fucked up and she got rightly slammed by the media but its not as bad as Trumps statement

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192799]He could have meant alot of different things with those words. When I heard those I thought he meant that gun holders should refuse to give up their weapons. No where did he said "go kill hillary". Where as Clinton was specifically joking about how Obama would get assassinated like kenndy. But the point is, you guys are falling for media fear mongering. Neither Clinton nor Thrump has actually told their supporters to kill the other candidate.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment[/url] What then is this? just as an FYI, if Trump had actually, openly said that Clinton was to be assassinated, in those exact terms, instead of making an oblique statement, he'd be in deep shit.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51192802]Unsubstantiated statements versus statements actually on record. I don't understand why Pro-Trump and Anti-Hillary folks (though that may as well fall under the same category) keep trying to bang on about unsubstantiated, easily disproven statements about Clinton merely for the sake of finding ammunition to dislike her. I understand a lot of folks have loyalty to their party, but Trump himself has proven on multiple occasions just how unfit an individual he is for the Presidency of the United states. I've practically shouted myself hoarse, myself and many other posters, about how terrible an idea it is to elect this man as the President, and how both Clinton and Trump are bad choices, but this doesn't change the fact one choice (not Trump) is less bad than the other. Trump's loyal army of supporters can't see anything beyond the baseless rhetoric he spews out and are attracted to his shitty personality, because somehow it's a good thing to 'say it like it is' when you happen to be in charge of one of the most powerful countries on earth. He managed to alienate just about everybody, is a narcissist, a sociopath, delusional to the point where he claimed he wouldn't go to heaven if he lost the election, has openly called for his supporters to riot if he didnt gain the candidacy, has advocated for violence, and is a bigoted piece of shit. With all these good reasons for him to not be elected President, leave alone somehow ending up as a candidate in this election, why do you still insist on supporting the likes of him? do you find his personality cult so attractive that you refuse to see the problems electing him will bring? who will you blame when his "policies" impoverish the middle class so badly they'll be worse off than they are now? will you accuse the liberals and democrats of sabotaging his Presidency then? For once in your lives, [i]open your eyes and think.[/i][/QUOTE] You do know I'm not a thrump supporter and that I'm a liberal right? See what I mean? I told you guys that you are over-reacting and that thrump supporters are not going to cause a civil war and your only response is to call me a dumb thrump supporter. You put so many words in my mouth that I'm choking to death. [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51192812][url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/09/trump-gun-owners-clinton-judges-second-amendment[/url] What then is this? just as an FYI, if Trump had actually, openly said that Clinton was to be assassinated, in those exact terms, instead of making an oblique statement, he'd be in deep shit.[/QUOTE] Of course he would be deep shit if he said that. Which he should.

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192818]thrump[/QUOTE] what tomfoolery is this, i demand to know explain, knave

when you use the exact same language as trump supporters, people draw connections. imo people should be a little more civil but it's not their fault for making obvious connections

I'd love to see what kind of people would riot for Trump. That would be so interesting to see faces of people that would support a giant douche like Trump. But saying that this would cause a civil war or mass riots is overstating what is going to happen because Trump doesn't have much true support but mostly just people who go republican because they go republican every election. A loud internet minority rarely amounts to much more then barking dogs.

[QUOTE=Mining Bill;51192842]when you use the exact same language as trump supporters, people draw connections. imo people should be a little more civil but it's not their fault for making obvious connections[/QUOTE] Obvious connections? Yeah I said Thrump supporters are not all going to collectively form a coherrent military and overthrown the government. I so totally a thrump supporter in disguise. All I'm doing is stating the obvious but you guys hate Thrump so much that you won't believe that not every single bad thing said about him isn't true.

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192871]Thrump[/QUOTE] ok but really though what is this

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192871]Obvious connections? Yeah I said Thrump supporters are not all going to collectively form a coherrent military and overthrown the government. I so totally a thrump supporter in disguise. All I'm doing is stating the obvious but you guys hate Thrump so much that you won't believe that not every single bad thing said about him isn't true.[/QUOTE] However, the majority of the dumb shit he's done is true, including all those stupid public and online statements he's made. Nobody needed to make anything up about Trump because that's how stupid he is. Unfortunately, his supporters dismiss any criticisms made about him as the 'biased liberal media' and that 'feels before reals' is more important than cold hard facts. I apologize if I went off the deep end there a bit, but it's honestly hard to tell somebody's position on a subject unless they're clearer about it to begin with. And I admit it, I don't like Trump or his supporters at all for my personal reasons, because personally I believe he didnt deserve any support whatsoever purely because of how big a clown he is.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51192838]what tomfoolery is this, i demand to know explain, knave[/QUOTE] knave? That word originated from german. What are you a nazi? I bet you are voting for Jill STEIN you sick fuck. For once in your lives, [I]open your eyes and think[/I]. Having a different political opinion than mine is wrong! Even tho we technically agree that thrump is a horrible president choice but since you don't mindlessly circlejerk every bullshit news article against thrump you are just a silly racist. Haven't you heard that his wife wore a "pussybow" around her neck last debate? Even his wife is a sexist rapist!

[QUOTE=Jouska;51192899]knave? That word originated from german. What are you a nazi? I bet you are voting for Jill STEIN you sick fuck. For once in your lives, [I]open your eyes and think[/I]. Having a different political opinion than mine is wrong! Even tho we technically agree that thrump is a horrible president choice but since you don't mindlessly circlejerk every bullshit news article against thrump you are just a silly racist. Haven't you heard that his wife wore a "pussybow" around her neck last debate? Even his wife is a sexist rapist![/QUOTE] you will pay for this, fiend edit: i don't know where this joke is going anymore

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51192898] I apologize if I went off the deep end there a bit, but it's honestly hard to tell somebody's position on a subject unless they're clearer about it to begin with. And I admit it, I don't like Trump or his supporters at all for my personal reasons, because personally I believe he didnt deserve any support whatsoever purely because of how big a clown he is.[/QUOTE] It's okay if it helps to reassure you I hate both candidates almost equally :v But you really shouldn't assume some strangers political stances over such a minor topic.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51192273]Holy shit, you can't be for real. This reads like a Conscript post. I'll also point out that Trump basically called for 'second amendment people' to kill a future President Clinton when she appointed her Supreme Court judges.[/QUOTE] Trump is also openly calling for[URL="https://www.donaldjtrump.com/landing/volunteer-to-be-a-trump-election-observer"] "election observers" [/URL] which could very easily result in [URL="http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/poll-election-monitor-challengers-vote-laws-watchers-214189"]voter intimidation[/URL] or other shady behavior.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51192777]Military action against self is pretty well understood. Governments around the world have been doing it for a long time. Aside from the fact that drones make things less [I]personal[/I] it's pretty easy to rally troops against people from regions that aren't near them. (This is my understanding of how China has dealt with dissidents in the past.) In the kinds of numbers we could reasonably see from those nutcases the US should see no existential threat. Those people are unreasonable and impracticality violent. Anyone with sense can see that peaceful protest (not working) is the best course of action if things get out of hand. If the regime in power gets violent without the right sort of provocation it makes more people see the cause as righteous.[/QUOTE] pulling the trigger is the easy part, its dealing with the fallout that is difficult. collateral damage is far less acceptable to the populace when they share nationality with those civilians killed. people are less likely to brush off a missile killing 3 insurgents and an innocent family of four when they feel they can closely relate to the family.