• Cyborg Cockroaches as emergency responders? What's next, Spider SWAT?
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[QUOTE=Jimbojib;37601648]Yes they are, they have very low self esteem. In seriousness, what do you mean? It's not like they have a hive mind, that shit must be terrible for the cockroach[/QUOTE] Most insects don't have the intellectual capacity to be self aware, let alone feel pain.
"We can rebuild them... make them better than they ever were. We have the technology."
[QUOTE=Bad Joe;37608212]if it has a brain it can feel pain whether it reacts much to it or not is a different thing[/QUOTE] not necessarily. [QUOTE][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#In_other_animals"]In particular, there are no known nociceptors in groups such as plants, fungi, and most insects, except for instance in fruit flies.[/URL][/QUOTE] it's sort of like how having a brain doesn't necessitate that you have vision, it's just another sense that some creatures don't share with us. some creatures don't have nociceptors just as some don't have ears or eyes. [editline]10th September[/editline] not to say that we'll ever know for sure, as, short of domesticating bugs and teaching them English, we can't know what they're feeling. however, there's no evidence that they actually feel pain beyond the assumption that they're similar to humans, and the lack of nociceptors would certainly suggest that any pain they feel is totally alien and unknown to us.
[QUOTE=grr164;37590468]Science! This could be very useful, I'm looking forward to seeing this as a response to future disasters.[/QUOTE] More like: Engineering!
[QUOTE=DrLuckyLuke;37613306]More like: Engineering![/QUOTE] bioengineering
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37610573]Most insects don't have the intellectual capacity to be self aware, let alone feel pain.[/QUOTE] False. [quote=Cambridge]The neural substrates of emotions do not appear to be confined to cortical structures. In fact, subcortical neural networks aroused during affective states in humans are also critically important for generating emotional behaviors in animals. Artificial arousal of the same brain regions generates corresponding behavior and feeling states in both humans and non-human animals. Wherever in the brain one evokes instinctual emotional behaviors in non-human animals, many of the ensuing behaviors are consistent with experienced feeling states, including those internal states that are rewarding and punishing. Deep brain stimulation of these systems in humans can also generate similar affective states. Systems associated with affect are concentrated in subcortical regions where neural homologies abound. Young human and nonhuman animals without neocortices retain these brain-mind functions. Furthermore, neural circuits supporting behavioral/electrophysiological states of attentiveness, sleep and decision making appear to have arisen in evolution as early as the invertebrate radiation, being evident in insects and cephalopod mollusks (e.g., octopus).[/quote] Keep in mind, I'm not debating whether or not they feel pain in the way we do, but to say they're not self-aware is factually wrong. Source if you want to read more about it: [URL="http://io9.com/5937356/prominent-scientists-sign-declaration-that-animals-have-conscious-awareness-just-like-us"]http://io9.com/5937356/prominent-scientists-sign-declaration-that-animals-have-conscious-awareness-just-like-us [/URL]
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