[I]The Armed Citizen Project is part of a national campaign to give shotguns to single women and homeowners in crime-ridden neighborhoods[/I]
[quote]TUCSON, Arizona — A campaign promising free shotguns for people to protect themselves in this Arizona city has divided some residents in a community still reeling from a shooting rampage in 2011 that killed six people, left a congresswoman and several others wounded, and made Tucson a symbol of gun violence in America.
The Armed Citizen Project is part of a national campaign to give shotguns to single women and homeowners in the nation's crime-ridden neighborhoods, an effort that comes amid a national debate on gun control after mass shootings in Arizona, Colorado and Connecticut.
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Arizona gun proponents have donated about $12,500 to fund the gun giveaway and McClusky, a former mayoral and city council candidate, hopes to collect enough to eventually arm entire neighborhoods.
Participants will receive training on how to properly use, handle and store their weapon, as well as trigger locks. It costs about $400 per participant for the weapon and training.
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[url]http://www.policeone.com/Gun-Legislation-Law-Enforcement/articles/6177633-Ariz-campaign-promises-free-shotguns/[/url]
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I'd donate to this
I still wish Reno didn't get cancelled.
How about solving the "ghetto" problem in the first place?
I've got no issue with shotguns.
[editline]29th March 2013[/editline]
But as Van-man said, if you want gun crime to drop, you need better living conditions.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40083733]How about solving the "ghetto" problem in the first place?[/QUOTE]
Because while this is slightly silly, it's not meant to be a permanent solution. Fixing "ghetto's" isn't something that can be done over night.
How can they be sure that they are giving guns to those who could possibly be the perpetrators of the violence?
Lets just throw shotguns at our problems until they all go away!
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;40084185]Lets just throw shotguns at our problems until they all go away![/QUOTE]
The American way.
and if that don't work, use more gun.
[QUOTE=Sir M;40084704]and if that don't work, use more gun.[/QUOTE]
You use a bigger gun.
I'll never understand why Americans haven't adopted similar laws to Australia in terms of having to lock guns in safes rather than leaving them on the beside table.
[QUOTE=Aboose;40084837]I'll never understand why Americans haven't adopted similar laws to Australia in terms of having to lock guns in safes rather than leaving them on the beside table.[/QUOTE]
muh freedoms
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;40084185]Lets just throw shotguns at our problems until they all go away![/QUOTE]
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZQdaEFa_60[/media]
It does sound like a sweet campaign. I mean, who wouldn't want a free shotgun? Too bad it's the completely wrong way of handling this kind of situation.
[QUOTE=Aboose;40084837]I'll never understand why Americans haven't adopted similar laws to Australia in terms of having to lock guns in safes rather than leaving them on the beside table.[/QUOTE]
Because gun safes are expensive and aren't always necessary.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40085083]Because gun safes are expensive and aren't always necessary.[/QUOTE]
Free gun safes for everyone!
In all seriousness I agree they may not always be necessary but if you can afford it is ideal to own one. Mostly if you have children around or in case of a burglary. I don't own a safe nor a gun so I am woefully uneducated on how difficult a gun safe would be to open but it's at least a step up from having a gun out in the open or locking a pistol in a drawer.
[QUOTE=Aboose;40084837]I'll never understand why Americans haven't adopted similar laws to Australia in terms of having to lock guns in safes rather than leaving them on the beside table.[/QUOTE]
Because those kinds of laws don't work and are only used to clog up the prison system with people who shouldn't be there, and to hand out gun owning prohibitions because the government of Australia wishes nobody owned guns, and like Canada wants to use any dishonest method they can to "legally/justifiably" take people's guns away.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40085083][I]Because gun safes[/I] are expensive and [I]aren't[/I] always [I]necessary.[/I][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40085083]Because gun safes aren't necessary.[/QUOTE]
And this is a big part of the reason the wrong kind of people get their grubby mitts on guns.
[QUOTE=Aesir;40085170]Free gun safes for everyone!
In all seriousness I agree they may not always be necessary but if you can afford it is ideal to own one. Mostly if you have children around or in case of a burglary. I don't own a safe nor a gun so I am woefully uneducated on how difficult a gun safe would be to open but it's at least a step up from having a gun out in the open or locking a pistol in a drawer.[/QUOTE]
A really really good safe costs several hundred bucks if not $1,000+, they typically have to be bolted to the floor or built into the wall. So it's a really expensive process. And like Dacommie said, it pointlessly makes people paper-criminals.
A little while back, a man in Canada had one of his legally owned and registered handguns in his nightstand drawer. He noticed that some people were trying to break into his house and trying to toss molotovs into it to burn it down. He grabbed his handgun from the drawer and shot over the heads of the guys trying to burn him and his family alive, they ran off pretty quick. The courts tried to charge him with improper storage of a firearm and reckless discharge of a firearm, or something like that.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40085363]And this is a big part of the reason the wrong kind of people get their grubby mitts on guns.[/QUOTE]
uhm
what?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40085438]uhm
what?[/QUOTE]
When not carrying it, lock it up.
Anything else is irresponsible.
[URL]http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4534[/URL]
Approximately 232400 firearms stolen each year.
Many of them are never seen again, until they've been used in a crime of some sort.
Now let's discuss how much that could be reduced with proper gun safes
BJS is the holy grail of statistics.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40085523]When not carrying it, lock it up.
Anything else is irresponsible.
[URL]http://bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4534[/URL]
Approximately 232400 firearms stolen each year.
Many of them are never seen again, until they've been used in a crime of some sort.
Now let's discuss how much that could be reduced with proper gun safes[/QUOTE]
I'm more concerned why you edited my post like that.....
I'm all for a person having a safe, I just don't think it should be a requirement to have one as they are very very expensive. The cheap ones you get for 100$ can be cut away with tin snips or just picked up and carried out the door. For a lot of people, a decent safe would be more expensive than the weapons it contains. If you don't have children in your house or live in a ghetto it's not really a necessity to have one, you can just as easily and safely lock them in your closet it or keep them in your nightstand drawer.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;40084185]Lets just throw shotguns at our problems until they all go away![/QUOTE]
Throwing shotguns at your problems won't help, what are you thinking.
Use shotguns like they're supposed to be used and just [I]shoot[/I] the problems.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40086090]I'm more concerned why you edited my post like that.....
I'm all for a person having a safe, I just don't think it should be a requirement to have one as they are very very expensive. The cheap ones you get for 100$ can be cut away with tin snips or just picked up and carried out the door. For a lot of people, a decent safe would be more expensive than the weapons it contains. If you don't have children in your house or live in a ghetto it's not really a necessity to have one, you can just as easily and safely lock them in your closet it or keep them in your nightstand drawer.[/QUOTE]
Isn't burglaries especially common in ghetto's and the area surrounding them?
Yeah, then you [B]ESPECIALLY[/B] should have a safe.
As a individual you also have the responsibility to safely storing or handling any firearms you own.
You don't do that? well then you don't deserve one.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40083733]How about solving the "ghetto" problem in the first place?[/QUOTE]
Easier to shoot them than to try change them.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40085201]Because those kinds of laws don't work and are only used to clog up the prison system with people who shouldn't be there, and to hand out gun owning prohibitions because the government of Australia wishes nobody owned guns, and like Canada wants to use any dishonest method they can to "legally/justifiably" take people's guns away.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't the U.S have a higher incarceration rate than most developed nations? Also, gun restrictions in Canada have slowly been loosening over the years. I can't say I'm totally in favour of this as you were still able to legally obtain a gun even with the restrictions as they were but we'll see what happens.
God damn socialism. Back in my day I had to work my ass off a whole summer to earn my first shotgun.
[QUOTE=Aesir;40088130]Doesn't the U.S have a higher incarceration rate than most developed nations? Also, gun restrictions in Canada have slowly been loosening over the years. I can't say I'm totally in favour of this as you were still able to legally obtain a gun even with the restrictions as they were but we'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]
Canada still has a blanket ban on any rifle that's painted black or showed up in any 1980's action movie.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;40084815]You use a bigger gun.[/QUOTE]Arizona requires additional dakka.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40088186]Canada still has a blanket ban on any rifle that's painted black or showed up in any 1980's action movie.[/QUOTE]
That still doesn't mean that the government is trying to take guns away. They can't just make the leap from, for example, scrapping the Long Gun Registry to suddenly allowing things like assault rifles to be bought and sold legally. Not only would the other parties throw a fit but there would likely be a bit of an outcry from a decent sized portion of the population.
Once again, I can't say for sure such a thing would have an impact on our crime statistics especially since Canada doesn't have the same gun obsessed culture that the U.S. has.
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