• Black holes may all contain other universes
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[QUOTE=Jessesmith1;21379528]so wait if we're in a black hole ourselves... could we just disappear at any minute if that black hole were to die?[/QUOTE] what if that happened like just a few seconds before i made this po
[QUOTE=SkynrdFan1;21379547]what if that happened like just a few seconds before i made this po[/QUOTE] but dude im still here replying to yo
I'm soooooooo willing to test this theory out. If I was able to.
[QUOTE=Roof;21379584]I'm soooooooo willing to test this theory out. If I was able to.[/QUOTE] im p sure according to the theory you'd be condensed into new universes
While I can't immediately see anything to refute this theory, I don't see anything to back it up either. Poplawski doesn't sound too convinced either, judging by his final statement.
[QUOTE=<VET>Jasper;21379593]im p sure according to the theory you'd be condensed into new universes[/QUOTE] Again, I'm soooo willing to test this theory out. If I was able to.
Agh, again with the loops. It just seems whenever you look, you'll run into a loop.
Wow talk about something crazy there interesting theory. I wonder if we could ever look into the other universe created in the black hole. This would also explain why our universe has actual dimensions on how big it is.
Does this theory imply that all the matter in our entire universe was sucked into a black hole at the same time?
I hate when philosophical hypotheses are searched for. Sure, one can make it sound plausible, but the odds of some hypothesis that one just composed from nothing being correct is very slim. This is a very non-researched statement, but a lot of great theories that have become laws were discovered, not thought-up. A few examples would be the echo from the big bang (may still be a theory, not sure) and Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity (I hope to god it is a law by now, why shouldn't it?).
It doesn't sound likely, but any scientist knows that it's still possible.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21379706]Does this theory imply that all the matter in our entire universe was sucked into a black hole at the same time?[/QUOTE] Well based on the big bang theory, yes. Or somehow it all randomly exploded out. If it were a gradual process, the universe would be a very different shape, most likely. Again it makes no sense.
Also, this black-hole-thing is a hypothesis, not a theory.
[QUOTE=Zoo;21379720]I hate when philosophical [B][/B]hypotheses are searched for. Sure, one can make it sound plausible, but the odds of some hypothesis that one just composed from nothing being correct is very slim. This is a very non-researched statement, but a lot of great theories that have become laws were discovered, not thought-up. A few examples would be the echo from the big bang (may still be a theory, not sure) and Albert Einstein's E=MC².[/QUOTE] I doubt he pulled it out of his ass, he probably has some reasoning behind it.
I call bullshit. I mean come on, Big Bangs from the collapses of Stars (or other objects with high enough mass that can't sustain itself)?
I remember seeing something similar to this in a 7th grade book on black holes, pretty neat. Though if this was true all space would loop around to itself and we'd be able to pass from one side of the universe to the other, and the universe wouldn't be able to expand infinitely.
[QUOTE=Zoo;21379720]I hate when philosophical [B][/B]hypotheses are searched for. Sure, one can make it sound plausible, but the odds of some hypothesis that one just composed from nothing being correct is very slim. This is a very non-researched statement, but a lot of great theories that have become laws were discovered, not thought-up. A few examples would be the echo from the big bang (may still be a theory, not sure) and Albert Einstein's E=MC².[/QUOTE] And M-Theory. Oh wait..
[QUOTE=Mexican;21379733]I doubt he pulled it out of his ass, he probably has some reasoning behind it.[/QUOTE] Well of course, but he is creating his hypothesis through what makes sense and could work, rather than what fills an unknown. This doesn't mean he can't be right, but I just think our most ground-breaking discoveries are discovered, not created. Also, way too many other ludicrous hypotheses are created out of ideas, like Jupiter being a wormhole. But nevertheless, I always support any philosophical thinking. Not always the ideas, but always the effort. [editline]01:27AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zoo;21379720]I hate when philosophical hypotheses are searched for. Sure, one can make it sound plausible, but the odds of some hypothesis that one just composed from nothing being correct is very slim. This is a very non-researched statement, but a lot of great theories that have become laws were discovered, not thought-up. A few examples would be the echo from the big bang (may still be a theory, not sure) and Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity (I hope to god it is a law by now, why shouldn't it?).[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy00/phy00125.htm[/URL] That's a pretty smart thirteen year-old.
[QUOTE=imadaman;21379734]I call bullshit. I mean come on, Big Bangs from the collapses of Stars (or other objects with high enough mass that can't sustain itself)?[/QUOTE] You didn't exactly describe black holes here.
The current (best?) theory about the creation of our universe is an orb of pure energy transformed into matter, and that sounds way more plausible to me than that we've had a warp through a black hole.
[QUOTE=Elexar;21380838]The current (best?) theory about the creation of our universe is an orb of pure energy transformed into matter, and that sounds way more plausible to me than that we've had a warp through a black hole.[/QUOTE] Pure energy exists in strands incredibly long and incredibly thin, like DNA, as I recall from a documentation on The Science Channel.
Seems like a load of shit to me.
I believe heavily in The Big Bang theory. I also believe that it was caused by a collision of two clouds of matter, one being anti-matter. The cloud of matter was to be greater in mass than the cloud of matter, therefore leaving leftover matter after the collision, which is our matter we have today. If you don't know, when matter and antimatter collide, they destroy each other and create massive amounts of energy. You can find out how much energy using this equation: E=mc². Let's see how much energy we get if we converted 1kg of sand into energy. (1 kg)(299,792,458 m/s)²=89875517873681764 J Energy is in the unit Joules. Now lets convert our joules into watts to give us something we can actually relate to. I don't know the values so I'll just use Google as my calculator. I Googled "89875517873681764 joules to kilowatt hours" and got: [B][B]2.49654216 × 1010 kilowatt hours[/B][/B] or 24.9 Petawatts. But this is only one handful of regular sand. If we clash two handfuls of sand, one being made of antimatter, we have twice the matter, so our equation turns into E=2mc². this changes our result to:[B][B] 9.98616865 × 1010 kilowatt hours[/B][/B] or 99.8 Petawatts. According to this site: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States[/url] The United States consumed 29 Petawatts for the entire year of 2005. Throwing two handfuls matter and antimatter at each other generates enough electricity to power The United States for a year more than three times over. These were only handfuls. Now picture super massive cosmic clouds colliding with each other. Boom. *I am only in a high school physics class. If you see any error in my work, please correct me.
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;21379316]It's going from a parallel universe to another. That would be breaking the laws because that universe is losing matter. Therefore this is impossible. Mexican beat me to the post because fp went down for me[/QUOTE] Not that I think this theory/hypothesis has any merit, but what if all the black holes in all the alternate universes create a circular chain that just moves matter around without leaving any universe short-changed. [QUOTE=Zoo;21381303]I believe heavily in The Big Bang theory. I also believe that it was caused by a collision of two clouds of matter, one being anti-matter.[/quote] If this were true, wouldn't the energy produced by the initial contact between the edges of the two clouds just throw them apart from eachother? Also, if these clouds are so massive, wouldn't their own intense gravity force them to become a bunch of stars or a black hole?
This isn't news, my science teacher told me this a few months ago
[quote]This would explain what happened before our Big Bang: it popped out of a black hole from another, much larger universe. Everything came out of a "white hole," if you will.[/quote] Bullshit. Entropy would still increase.
So if I ejaculated into a black hole, another universe would be born from my semen?
[quote]Not that I think this theory/hypothesis has any merit, but what if all the black holes in all the alternate universes create a circular chain that just moves matter around without leaving any universe short-changed.[/quote] See my above post. [editline]10:08AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mattz333;21381954]So if I ejaculated into a black hole, another universe would be born from my semen?[/QUOTE] "Sometimes a cigar is just the superdense remains of a star floating through space."
This isn't new, it's Lee Smolin's Fecund universes theory. [editline]11:56AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Elexar;21380838]The current (best?) theory about the creation of our universe is an orb of pure energy transformed into matter, and that sounds way more plausible to me than that we've had a warp through a black hole.[/QUOTE] What about the Cyclic model?
Personally, I ain't too sure about black holes [U]containing[/U] other universes, that seems a wee bit improbable. Personally I think it'd be more likely for black holes to [U]lead to[/U] other universes, seems a bit more probable.
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