[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435497]Don't even try these people are completely ignoring the fact that a convoy of troops was on its way through there. Nobody in this thread has talked to people who have been to iraq they just don't know how crazy it really is, they think by watching these videos on the internet they can vicariously experience what happens and grasp an understanding on what goes on there.[/QUOTE]
You seriously made the argument that by being near where an occupying force is in your own city you have willfully surrendered your life
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435511]Its because Im just typing reaally fast and most of the time I don't take the time to correct it becasue frankly.............. I dont care lol
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No but before you assume that about me I am in the marines I personally haven't been deployed yet but I have many friends and family that are serving over there right now.[/QUOTE]
You're eighteen?
Christ you type like me at ten. Good God man.
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;22435505]Looks like I'll have to re-watch it. Fuckin wish a 30 minute video would allow me to skip ahead.[/QUOTE]
Why are you such an asshole to everyone
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22435525]You seriously made the argument that by being near where an occupying force is in your own city you have willfully surrendered your life[/QUOTE]
No but being in a fucking battle zone where insurgents are attacking american forces, and you are just walking around carrying aks is pretty fucking dumb.
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435465]liekkkkk ommgggggg he speeelllled summthinnnn wrangg on teh internetsssss
Get real man just because I typed that really fast and made a few mistakes means Im incompetent to argue with you? No Im sorry but Im done here the gunner was proven innocent anyways so not like your opinion matters.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to interject here, but your use of punctuation could be dialed up a notch or two.
Back on topic, it shouldn't matter if the gunner was at fault or not. Not to me, anyways. Videos like the Collateral Murder video are good. It wakes the American public up to the realities of war, something that hasn't been done since 'Nam.
Its war, motherfuckers. No one can be perfect, no one can be expected to act appropriately, not when such a savage conflict is raging on.
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435544]No but being in a fucking battle zone where insurgents are attacking american forces, and you are just walking around carrying aks is pretty fucking dumb.[/QUOTE]
Are you even aware of the fact that no one was carrying weapons?
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22435542]Why are you such an asshole to everyone[/QUOTE]
Yes Mr. Who gives a shit about murder I don't.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22435542]Why are you such an asshole to everyone[/QUOTE]
How was he being an asshole? I wasn't offended.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22435534]You're eighteen?
Christ you type like me at ten. Good God man.[/QUOTE]
Once again insult my typing because ohh spelling and grammar on the internet make you so much more intelligent. Is facepunch your life is this why you are so adamant about spelling correctly on here??? Once again Garry took out the smartness system so pricks like you wouldn't sit here and bitch about people spelling shit wrong what does it matter you can read it its still legible
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;22435555]How was he being an asshole? I wasn't offended.[/QUOTE]
Well I figured he was being sarcastic about the whole skipping thing, I figured you COULD skip ahead.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22435549]Are you even aware of the fact that no one was carrying weapons?[/QUOTE]
I watched the video without knowing anything about the result and from the video it clearly looked like they were carrying AKs.
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22435542]Why are you such an asshole to everyone[/QUOTE]
What, the fuck, are you talking about?
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435574]I watched the video without knowing anything about the result and from the video it clearly looked like they were carrying AKs.[/QUOTE]
They were carrying camera equipment.
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435560]Once again insult my typing because ohh spelling and grammar on the internet make you so much more intelligent. Is facepunch your life is this why you are so adamant about spelling correctly on here??? Once again Garry took out the smartness system so pricks like you wouldn't sit here and bitch about people spelling shit wrong what does it matter you can read it its still legible[/QUOTE]
There is no way you're eighteen. I refuse to believe that's possible.
You can't fucking type a grammatically correct sentence and they're going to give you a fucking gun? God have mercy on whatever city they send you to.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22435585]They were carrying camera equipment.[/QUOTE]
Lemme just hold my 50mm AK directly in front of my face before opening fire....
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22435585]They were carrying camera equipment.[/QUOTE]
But it clearly looked like weapons and ONCE AGAIN they were walking around in a hot zone, this what happens those reporters knew the risk. Its not that I don't care that they were murdered because I do but reporters are killed like this in every single conflict there has ever been.
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435603]reporters are killed like this in every single conflict there has ever been.[/QUOTE]
Just pointing out that this is a baseless and false claim.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22435596]There is no way you're eighteen. I refuse to believe that's possible.
You can't fucking type a grammatically correct sentence and they're going to give you a fucking gun? God have mercy on whatever city they send you to.[/QUOTE]
Once again you insult my spelling and grammar on a internet forum why don't you get back on subject? If you really want to play that game I can promise you Ive been not only on this earth longer then you but also on this forum much longer then you have been so please unless you have something to contribute other then childish stabs at my typing shut up.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22435553]Yes Mr. Who gives a shit about murder I don't.[/QUOTE]
Stop acting like just because we aren't calling these people bloodthirsty murderers that it means we think its good it happened.
What happened is terrible, and I wish it didn't happen, and I wish that those gunners were a little more enlightened to the situation, but they weren't. They had shitty camera equipment and couldn't make out anything smaller than a suitcase. I'm not saying what the pilots did was right, I can just understand what all went wrong and what was probably going through the soldiers head.
Was it right that they killed those people, No, of course not. Should they be punished to the fullest extent of the law? I don't know about that, because I really don't know how I would handle the situation if I was in their shoes. If lives depended on me I'm not sure how I would act.
All I know is that these pilots are soldiers and not crazy lunatics with a blood lust. I believe its going too far to say that they are.
You'll have to excuse my shitty typing. It's getting worse cause I'm getting tired and it's 3 am.
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;22435620]Just pointing out that this is a baseless and false claim.[/QUOTE]
Well no, they are killed.
Not quite with a multi-million dollar state of the art pinnacle of military might helicopter, but still.
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435603]But it clearly looked like weapons and ONCE AGAIN they were walking around in a hot zone, this what happens those reporters knew the risk. Its not that I don't care that they were murdered because I do but reporters are killed like this in every single conflict there has ever been.[/QUOTE]
So your argument is not that carrying weapons in a combat zone is punishable by death, it's that being a human being in a combat zone that you are reporting in and carrying any object that might be mistaken for dangerous from a little TV 3 kilometers away is punishable by death?
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;22435620]Just pointing out that this is a baseless and false claim.[/QUOTE]
Name a major war conflict where no reporters on EITHER side were killed
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;22435620]Just pointing out that this is a baseless and false claim.[/QUOTE]
And murder should never be acceptable just because "It happened in __________, ergo, it is okay for it to happen here."
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22435638]So your argument is not that carrying weapons in a combat zone is punishable by death, it's that being a human being in a combat zone that you are reporting in and carrying any object that might be mistaken for dangerous from a little TV 3 kilometers away is punishable by death?[/QUOTE]
So you are saying you would rather chance it and see what happens when your fellow solders stumble upon them?
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435659]So you are saying you would rather chance it and see what happens when your fellow solders stumble upon them?[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I have full faith in our super troops we have roving the Baghdad area. Why do you think are troops suck so much, zebra? Are you a terrorist supporter?
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;22435628]Stop acting like just because we aren't calling these people bloodthirsty murderers that it means we think its good it happened.
What happened is terrible, and I wish it didn't happen, and I wish that those gunners were a little more enlightened to the situation, but they weren't. They had shitty camera equipment and couldn't make out anything smaller than a suitcase. I'm not saying what the pilots did was right, I can just understand what all went wrong and what was probably going through the soldiers head.
Was it right that they killed those people, No, of course not. Should they be punished to the fullest extent of the law? I don't know about that, because I really don't know how I would handle the situation if I was in their shoes. If lives depended on me I'm not sure how I would act.
All I know is that these pilots are soldiers and not crazy lunatics with a blood lust. I believe its going too far to say that they are.
You'll have to excuse my shitty typing. It's getting worse cause I'm getting tired and it's 3 am.[/QUOTE]
Woah, get the pipe out of your ass.
I was referring to the fact that he refuses to watch the full video because it's "boring".
[QUOTE=DrMonumbo;22435600]Lemme just hold my 50mm AK directly in front of my face before opening fire....[/QUOTE]
They believed that they were RPGs.
From the angle that they saw that one guy peek around the corner, I could understand their identification.
[QUOTE=ThatHippyMan;22435708]Yeah. I have full faith in our super troops we have roving the Baghdad area. Why do you think are troops suck so much, zebra? Are you a terrorist supporter?[/QUOTE]
You obviously haven't been reading my arguments
[QUOTE=-=killazebra=-;22435659]So you are saying you would rather chance it and see what happens when your fellow solders stumble upon them?[/QUOTE]
Why are we arguing about the gunner now? You said it was stupid for a photographer to be on the ground taking photographs, and therefore it's their fault they died. Some of those guys didn't have ANYTHING on them and they were just civilians who lived in the area. Are you saying that living somewhere being occupied by a foreign military and traveling outside your house is stupid and it's your own fault if you're killed?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22435709]Woah, get the pipe out of your ass.
I was referring to the fact that he refuses to watch the full video because it's "boring".[/QUOTE]
Settle down. I wasn't being hostile.
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