Middle School Students Kicked Out Of 9/11 Memorial Site After Throwing Trash In Fountains
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[QUOTE=winsanity;36475558]The problem is that these kids were babies when 9/11 happened, they remember fuck all about 9/11.[/QUOTE]
True, but it shouldn't really matter. By middle school people should have enough sense to know that a memorial isn't the place to be an asshole, regardless of whether or not you remember why it exists.
Kids like this are exactly the kind of people that give teens a bad name, as destructive, rebellious, disrespectful little fucks. I'm ashamed to be in the same age group as them.
[QUOTE=Leintharien;36475604]Some food for thought:
Now honestly, although the place was particularily touchy, but it doesn't surprise me that middle school kids were goofing off on a field trip. I remember going to wartime museums way back in the day when I was in middle school and I was bored to death. It was only until I was older, did I truly realize and understand the gravity and magnitude of the world wars, and why they were so important that we remember.
They are just too young to truly understand why they are there.[/QUOTE]
They had a State Department of Education investigation. I think that's quite excessive.
Is Un-Americanism a Class Three Infraction now?
[QUOTE=winsanity;36475558]The problem is that these kids were babies when 9/11 happened[/QUOTE]
This statement makes me feel old.
Normally I can relate to the people expressing anger towards the kids but in this situation the kids really weren't all that bad. Like what posters above me said, they just don't understand how dramatic 9/11 was.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;36476074]They had a State Department of Education investigation. I think that's quite excessive.
Is Un-Americanism a Class Three Infraction now?[/QUOTE]
More or less, yeah.
Does it matter which memorial they were at? No matter what memorial they were at they were still being disrespectful.
Though they likely remember nothing about 9/11, they were still all likely alive by then.
Imagine what kids who weren't even alive when 9/11 happened would do. Scares me. New generations have to be taught respect
[QUOTE=Conscript;36475673]Lol I doubt any middle schooler remembers 9/11. This is kinda unsurprising.
I went to a vietnam memorial in 8th grade and everybody was fucking around, I wouldn't put something like this beyond them.
Kids tend to be assholes.[/QUOTE]
They need to be taught that "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it". And if you think that statement is bull, remember that two members of the Bush family have been elected President of the USA. Twice.
Although it's bad, I feel middle schoolers can't exactly appreciate the memorial being as most of them were babies, or not even born when 9/11 occurred. No offense to anyone out there in middle school, but I feel that seeing it happen makes me more aware of the whole thing.
[QUOTE=Zombie man70;36475505]Agreed. Fucking kids these days.[/QUOTE]
Oh fuck you. My generation didn't invent delinquency, we inherited it.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;36475682]this hardly merits violence
calm the fuck down[/QUOTE]
because the only way to teach some one a lesson is to do it violently, right?
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;36476254]They need to be taught that "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it". And if you think that statement is bull, remember that two members of the Bush family have been elected President of the USA. Twice.[/QUOTE]
Memorials hardly teach history. They teach patriotism. You think the 9/11 memorial says "Perhaps we should have reconsidered our foreign policy in the Arabian peninsula and removed support for Israel" on it? Fuck no.
[QUOTE=prooboo;36477364]Oh fuck you. My generation didn't invent delinquency, we inherited it.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately I agree with you. A child is simply a reflection of their parents' actions until a certain age.
[QUOTE=prooboo;36477364]Oh fuck you. My generation didn't invent delinquency, we inherited it.[/QUOTE]
You can also put a stop to it.
Oh, don't rate me dumb. "My generation inherited it." "Don't blame me, it's just my generation."
Don't blame your generation. Be mature enough to form your own opinion on things and don't just use the people who are your age and act dumb as an excuse. You don't have to be like everyone else.
Kids being kids, hardly news. I'm pretty sure if this happened at any other memorial it wouldn't be newsworthy but apparently 9/11 is a real pressure point. I'm not trying to cause an argument or anything but I'm pretty sure if this happened at a World War II or Holocaust memorial no one would really care.
Hell yeah they should be punished, but punish them in a way you'd punish a kid that got caught causing trouble in a public spot like that. Ground them or something. None of this archaic HOLY SHIT WORST GENERATION EVER BETTER GET MY WHIPPING CANE shit.
Although I will admit the fact that a child's carrying around ammunition is sort of a cause for alarm.
Fucking little shits. Someone needs to fly a plane into them.
[QUOTE=beanhead;36477384]because the only way to teach some one a lesson is to do it violently, right?[/QUOTE]
We tried teaching them a lesson nonviolently, but then they threw trash at it.
So now we get to beat them, right
[QUOTE=prooboo;36477422]Memorials hardly teach history. They teach patriotism. You think the 9/11 memorial says "Perhaps we should have reconsidered our foreign policy in the Arabian peninsula and removed support for Israel" on it? Fuck no.[/QUOTE]
why don't you say that to the WWI museum fucker not the 9/11 memorial and see what happens
In all seriousness, I kind of understand. They're middle schoolers, they were like 1 or 2 when it happened. Plus, well, they're middle schoolers.
I don't understand the bullets, though.
I think the better question here is why was the kid carrying bullets?
And people, get off your high horses. We were all little shits once at some point in our lives.
I would've punished them by making them clean the memorial by picking up garbage and liter, and then have them attend a special class that will teach them how to show them how to properly respect/ take care of a memorial/landmark.
Then again the teachers(and or Parents) who came with the students should've been watching over the kids to make sure they didn't do shit like this.
I'm pretty pissed at these kids, not because it was the 9/11 memorial, but just because it was a memorial of some sort. I'd be just as pissed if it was the Lincoln memorial.
That said, I don't think what they did deserves anything more than a slap on the wrist, because they're middle schoolers, and if they're going around throwing trash in memorial fountains it's probably because they don't have the mental capabilities to understand what a memorial is.
[QUOTE=lavacano;36477796]I'm pretty pissed at these kids, not because it was the 9/11 memorial, but just because it was a memorial of some sort. I'd be just as pissed if it was the Lincoln memorial.
That said, I don't think what they did deserves anything more than a slap on the wrist, because they're middle schoolers, and if they're going around throwing trash in memorial fountains it's probably because they don't have the mental capabilities to understand what a memorial is.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say they don't understand what a memorial is, it's just when you're at that age you sort of have that special kind of egocentrism that stops you from really truly appreciating what happened to warrant a memorial like that. It's hard to care about that sort of thing when it happened too long ago for you to remember.
Very disrespectful...
I wish kids would throw empty bottles on my grave. It'd be v rad.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36477944]I wish kids would throw empty bottles on my grave. It'd be v rad.[/QUOTE]
Screw three bullets in their pockets, I want people to visit my grave wearing [i]bandoliers.[/i]
[editline]25th June 2012[/editline]
At my funeral they can fire guns in the air and bury me in shell casings.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;36477427]You can also put a stop to it.
Oh, don't rate me dumb. "My generation inherited it." "Don't blame me, it's just my generation."
Don't blame your generation. Be mature enough to form your own opinion on things and don't just use the people who are your age and act dumb as an excuse. You don't have to be like everyone else.[/QUOTE]
As if changing the collective ideology of society is possible through individual action. Being a little shit is part of your formative psychology. Hell it's practically American.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;36476022]Kids like this are exactly the kind of people that give teens a bad name, as destructive, rebellious, disrespectful little fucks. I'm ashamed to be in the same age group as them.[/QUOTE]
You're gonna be ashamed to be in every age group with that kind of thinking, because every single age group has [I]plenty[/I] of disrespectful, destructive, rebellious fucks.
I was there a few weeks ago and even being a history buff and really wanting to go to the memorial i can understand why they would be bored. It takes forever to get to. You like wrap around the whole WTC "lot" i guess because it felt like we were going in circles. And at like every corner there was someone waiting to check your ticket with a marker and by the end it had like 4-5 marks on it. Then the memorial is very nice but like other memorials you look at it for a little and leave because there isn't much to do.
Off topic: Before you get onto the trail to the memorial you go through this museum place. It was pretty standard museum stuff. Silverware, steal beams n whatnot. But the one thing that struck me the most was a piece of the aircraft was recovered and on display. It was a window. Just thinking that that piece of metal was the last thing one person saw before they died by flying into a building sent chills down my spine.
[QUOTE=ART1E117;36475624]I wish someone would've hauled off and knocked out one of those little shits.[/QUOTE]
I hope to god you're never allowed near children.
[QUOTE=ART1E117;36475624]I wish someone would've hauled off and knocked out one of those little shits.[/QUOTE]
This should be mandatory punishment.
"See who can throw their bottle cap into the fountain!!!"
And then the teacher breaks out his friend, Mr. Right Hook.
Justice.
[QUOTE=prooboo;36477364]Oh fuck you. My generation didn't invent delinquency, we inherited it.[/QUOTE]
haha
Assuming your "generation" means you're in middle school along with them, the fact that your immediate response is a stern "fuck you" basically speaks for itself. You're essentially trying to say "no u."
Every generation has it's idiots, stop going: "Back in mah days the kids were nice and it was all rainbows and sunshine"
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