Father and young daughter killed by reckless speeding and texting 17 year old in a Cadillac Escalade - Polidicks

Anyone think its ethical to post the reddit link on the OP to get more attention for the Demitri guy? I'm thinking no, but if you guys think its okay... Also, someone posted a 4chan thread, a lot of attention on that...mostly about the Demitri guy, wanting to raid him and shit. I really didn't mean for this, but the attention its gotten really shows you that people do care, that they won't accept such disgusting disrespect.

I still want to know which website they were talking about. We're looking for a new car

[QUOTE=Clementine;35489143]Anyone think its ethical to post the reddit link on the OP to get more attention for the Demitri guy? I'm thinking no, but if you guys think its okay... Also, someone posted a 4chan thread, a lot of attention on that...mostly about the Demitri guy, wanting to raid him and shit. I really didn't mean for this, but the attention its gotten really shows you that people do care, that they won't accept such disgusting disrespect.[/QUOTE] I am saying no: [img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Capture406.JPG[/img] His response, [posted with his permission, in his defense]: [QUOTE]Me - Sorry about your brother. It must hurt horribly to have someone you undoubtedly care about demonized and damned for what essentially amounts to normal carelessness with abnormal consequences. What he was doing at the time of the accident wasn't unusual for many drivers these days, but the consequences were. I'm sorry to say that you are going to be getting a lot of hate from all sides in your community, but that is to be expected. A man and his daughter lost their lives in what appears to most to be a tragic, yet avoidable act of negligence on your brother's part. That interpretation is unavoidable. However, how you compose yourself in the following weeks, months, and whatever longer your brother may be in Juvenile detention is important because you are at a crux (a turning point) where your own reputation is at stake. Threats of murder on Facebook only risk getting you incarcerated as well, as much as they may feel right or logical at the time. I hope this doesn't piss you off - I don't even know you - I just can't imagine what I would do if my sister was the one in Jail over her actions and inseparability from her cell phone. I too would probably be threatening anybody who said anything bad about my sibling at his point. The best thing you can do right now is be supportive of your brother because he is undoubtedly hurting, no matter how he is acting. Causing the death of another is never easy on the mind, and the hate coming at him must certainly make him feel awful. Understand that simply because he did a bad thing, that it does not make him a bad person. A lot of what people say is going to sound like they are putting him down, when actually they are putting down hiss actions. A lot of people are reeling at this, and trying to comprehend how it would happen, so attacking who they perceive to be the culprit is only natural. Please understand that like your reaction is natural, so is theirs. It's all grief under different perspectives. Him - Thanks your the only person who seem logical about this ....and these people arnt even phasing me but thanks a lot and I appreciate u talking to me like an adult And I do feel bad for those people but the media is hyping this sitiation up more than what it is Me - It's no problem man, I just hate to see you become a victim because something bad happened that you had no control over. If you want to add me, my actual Facebook is under ****. If you ever need someone to pen-pal with in these trying times, I'm willing to talk. In the mean time, I'm trying to finish a 8 page research paper by tomorrow morning. Good luck and all of that, and I only hope the best for you and your family. Him - Thanks....its good to know im not the only sane person left[/QUOTE] Stop harassing his brother and remember he is a victim in this situation as well. His family is going to go through a lot of shit. The driver may deserve the sentence he gets, but they don't deserve harassment for being related to him. Vindictive feelings are the hardest to fight, especially when caused by the death of innocent people. However, understand that he has absolutely no tools on handling this, and in prior instances in his life, dismissal of the problem has probably worked famously. I just hate to see people become victims due to not being able to handle the unexpected situations that come from being alive. His public response to the situation was fucked, but it's a pretty basic defense mechanism which is saying 'I can't handle the loss of them, I am dealing with the loss of my own.' It is very easy to dismiss the existence of someone you don't know when you are facing the loss and ruined family that is going to come from this fucking tragedy that his fool of a brother was part of.

[QUOTE=whatthefuckkk;35487746][IMG]http://claycord.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rosen2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Argh. I can't fucking read this, it's giving me a headache just TRYING. U R BE WID UP IN DA LA LE MAH FOZ BOSHIT BDDY !! JKJK NIGS WIDDA FOR-FIDDY. What. What are you trying to say?!

Try and spread discouragement of this harassment if you can comprehend my points, I assure you they are valid. Feel free to paraphrase me.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35489280]I am saying no: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Capture406.JPG[/url] His response: Stop harassing his brother and remember he is a victim in this situation as well. His family is going to go through a lot of shit. His brother may deserve the sentence he gets, but they don't deserve harassment for being related to him.[/QUOTE] Alright, thank you, I didn't want to make this all seem like a big witch hunt, at least not something I advocated...people will do it regardless, but...well...

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35489280]His public response to the situation was fucked, but it's a pretty basic defense mechanism which is saying 'I can't handle the loss of them, I am dealing with the loss of my own.' It is very easy to dismiss the existance of someone you don't know when you are facing the loss and ruined family that is going to come from this fucking tragedy that his fool of a brother was part of.[/QUOTE] He didn't lose his brother, his brother is alive and in jail, another family lost everything; and this arrogant retard has the nerve to say shit like... [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UdsBk.png[/IMG] Personally I could give fuckall about him or his cunt brother.

It's sad I wasn't here on page one, or maybe this could have not been the witch hunt it's become. All of you frantic, vindictive people are accomplishing nothing but afflicting pain to those who are already hurt. His brother is responsible for the deaths of others. He's lost him for as long as the prison system has him. Their family is going to be devastated when their natural defensive reaction gets them demonized by the community. Their relationships with each other are going to be devastated by this incident. In cases like this, families often have to move, leave town because the harassment becomes so severe. Try using that empathy part of your brain you use too little, nivek. He's deleted all of his responses and acknowledges that they were not proper. [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] It's sad that the family of someone who got in a reckless tragic accident has to be defended because the family responded poorly. No one here even knows how the driver feels. He could be crying for all we know, right now. How you act in day to day life is not how you act after something like this happens, so stop acting as if he is blowing off the fact that he ran people over. The article doesn't say he got out of the car and pissed on the corpses, or kicked the dying daughter does it?

That Demitri fellow. I wonder how tough he'd sound face to face.

[QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35489604]That Demitri fellow. I wonder how tough he'd sound face to face.[/QUOTE] Read pages 4 and 5, assigned homework if you have not. Pay attention to what I've posted if you'd like some perspective on the matter. I've been in contact with him. I won't post our entire conversation out of respect to his privacy, but he is shaken and does not know how to handle this. He is sorry for the people that died, he just doesn't know what to say to anybody about this yet. It happened yesterday, for fuck's sake. His brother is in jail, and he has to comprehend that he's responsible for the deaths of two people yet keep loving him. Speaking out in his defense, no matter how irrationally, is perfectly natural in this situation and you would know that if you have EVER studied law. In cases like this, the family is often ruined and has to move because they cannot stop themselves from responding defensively due to this irrational thing called 'unconditional love' [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ShazzyFreak0;35484600]I'm glad there are people like you who try to understand what the brother is going through. The brother is obviously going through some serious shit after this accident and he has no idea how to react to all the hate coming at him and his brother. I'm not saying that saying "fuck the dead people" is okay, but before labeling him as scum, try understanding what's going through his mind at the time. Maybe I'm just overly optimistic about people.[/QUOTE] [I]Agree x 5,000 (list)[/I]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bWqPa.png[/IMG] what I sent him

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35489694]Read pages 4 and 5, assigned homework if you have not. Pay attention to what I've posted if you'd like some perspective on the matter. I've been in contact with him. I won't post our entire conversation out of respect to his privacy, but he is shaken and does not know how to handle this. He is sorry for the people that died, he just doesn't know what to say to anybody about this yet. It happened yesterday, for fuck's sake. His brother is in jail, and he has to comprehend that he's responsible for the deaths of two people yet keep loving him. Speaking out in his defense, no matter how irrationally, is perfectly natural in this situation and you would know that if you have EVER studied law. In cases like this, the family is often ruined and has to move because they cannot stop themselves from responding defensively due to this irrational thing called 'unconditional love'[/QUOTE] I can agree to some extent, but it's really no excuse for showing such disrespect, especially to those that have passed away. If anything, he's displacing his frustration on others, as if evading and denying the truth that it was his brother's fault, which is generally unhealthy and unwise. That's basic psychology right there.

[QUOTE=nivek;35489407]He didn't lose his brother, his brother is alive and in jail, another family lost everything; and this arrogant retard has the nerve to say shit like... [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/UdsBk.png[/IMG] Personally I could give fuckall about him or his cunt brother.[/QUOTE] He's probably just worried that if his brother goes to jail he'll have to find another supplier. I'm sitting here and I'm trying to imagine in my head the conversations and situations occuring at their home that's making them stop and go "Fuck the idiots who died, David's the victim!", but I just can't find a valid reasoning for it. If I did what David did, my parents would stand by me but all agree that I would have to face the music for my actions. What David's family (or just some?) are doing and saying is mindlessly pathetic. Have some heart for the young girl and her father that your careless son just smeared with his bloody truck.

How would his brother being charged for the crime he already committed ('vehicular manslaughter', by the way) teach him a lesson for speaking in defense of his brother? [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35489894]I can agree to some extent, but it's really no excuse for showing such disrespect, especially to those that have passed away. If anything, he's displacing his frustration on others, as if evading and denying the truth that it was his brother's fault, which is generally unhealthy and unwise. That's basic psychology right there.[/QUOTE] Yes - ideally everybody would be able to handle the cognitive dissonance caused by the fact that their brother is now responsible for causing the deaths of two people in perfect stride, change their opinions of said brother accordingly, and then respond to the criticism of their brother by agreeing that they deserve the punishment. Unfortunately, that's not the case. It usually takes about a week (or more) for such adjustments to be accommodated in their mind. He loves his brother, I am sure - as anyone loves theirs. No matter how arrogant and reckless he may have been, or how bad he fucked up, there is no reason for him to not love his brother up until 9 am yesterday. He is still going to love his brother after this, but he is going to have to accommodate what happened and incorporate it into the presently existing image he had of his younger brother. It takes time to adjust, and while his comments were disgraceful, he was essentially saying 'I can't care about them, I am caring about my own'. Anybody would evade the truth when it hurts that fucking much, especially when it was a day ago. Speaking of basic psychology, look up 'denial as a coping mechanism'

[QUOTE=lemonlimecom;35489838][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bWqPa.png[/IMG] what I sent him[/QUOTE] chill he's an asshole, yes, but deal with him calmly, and openly

I was raging at the time, sorry lol

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35489898]Speaking of basic psychology, look up 'denial as a coping mechanism'[/QUOTE] Denial is a natural reaction, but still an unhealthy practice and not recommended.

[QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35490089]Denial is a natural reaction, but still an unhealthy practice and not recommended.[/QUOTE] Illness also is an unhealthy practice and also not recommended, but it occurs and must be treated accordingly. Sending him messages like the one i sent him are treating the denial and addressing the problem. Harassing him and attacking his family only serves to entrench him further in the view that he is right, because the other side is literally calling him a piece of shit. He responded [url=http://filesmelt.com/dl/Capture406.JPG]to my long and empathetic message[/url] with understanding, and admission that he felt bad. He acknowledges that his brother fucked up. He'll never say that to someone who is calling him trash.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/wvXRh.png[/img] WHAT...THE...FUCK

[QUOTE=usaokay;35490133]You guys acting like jerks to his family are the real losers. Both families are currently experiencing a harsh time in their lives, so it would be better off if some strangers on the internet don't harass one or any of them. God damn. +5 Paragon[/QUOTE] pfft they big dumb idiots! +10 Stupid [QUOTE=Clementine;35490134][img]http://i.imgur.com/wvXRh.png[/img] WHAT...THE...FUCK[/QUOTE] alright yeah he's totally a douche and to be honest, I don't care how "Hard a time you're having it", when you do something like that and just act like a child about it like it's some big joke, then you kind of have it coming. It shows that you probably don't really care by not taking killing a bunch of people like that seriously.

[QUOTE=Clementine;35490134][img]http://i.imgur.com/wvXRh.png[/img] WHAT...THE...FUCK[/QUOTE] I suddenly lost all faith that he's got any sense of repairable normalcy or dignity.

[QUOTE=J!NX;35490210]pfft they big dumb idiots! +10 Stupid alright yeah he's totally a douche and to be honest, I don't care how "Hard a time you're having", when you do something like that and just act like a child about it like it's some big joke, then you kind of have it coming.[/QUOTE] For context, that person was one who had been sending him messages of MURDER-REDRUM over and over again, and telling him that his brother had better not drop the soap and that he was going to get what was coming to him. [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] Entrenchment occurred, and was fucked up exactly as it sometimes is.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35490230]For context, that person was one who had been sending him messages of MURDER-REDRUM over and over again, and telling him that his brother had better not drop the soap and that he was going to get what was coming to him. [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] Entrenchment occurred, and was fucked up exactly as it sometimes is.[/QUOTE] well that person is a fuck head Demi seems to not take it seriously (Unless I'm missing something), but seriously, harassing doesn't seem to be really fair.

[QUOTE=FreakyMe;35490230]For context, that person was one who had been sending him messages of MURDER-REDRUM over and over again, and telling him that his brother had better not drop the soap and that he was going to get what was coming to him. [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] Entrenchment occurred, and was fucked up exactly as it sometimes is.[/QUOTE] Yeah in situations like that you make fun of the person, not the people that were murdered at the hands of your brother...I understand that this guy kinda fucked up at first, but he hasn't stopped, and shows no understanding of the situation.

I think not taking it seriously is all you can do the day after your brother kills two people. I couldn't even begin to address something like that. Probably not for weeks.

[QUOTE=Clementine;35490134][img]http://i.imgur.com/wvXRh.png[/img] WHAT...THE...FUCK[/QUOTE] I hope he drowns in a sea of legos.

Oh hey OP you live by me. Where I live, everyone is like this. Why do people emulate the people who would rob and murder us for $100?

Actually, his profile has been clean since I talked to him around noon. All of those images are old. [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Capture408.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Capture409.JPG[/IMG] [editline]8th April 2012[/editline] He's deleted every troll that has posted since around 2 or 3 pm, and hasn't responded to any of them. He simply deletes the message, reports the account, and blocks it.

Probably deletes everything he says in response, probably so he doesn't look like a shithead.

[QUOTE=Clementine;35490332]Probably deletes everything he says in response, probably so he doesn't look like a shithead.[/QUOTE] At least it means he realizes how stupid pretty much everything he said related to those two deaths were.