I never knew it actually stood for something, let alone the G meaning GNU.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49168281]photoshop is just as good if not better
i understand that gimp is a free alternative, but to say that gimp is better in really any way save for harddrive space and memory footprint, it would be a lie[/QUOTE]
That's great and all but I'm not spending $500 or whatever inane price Adobe asks for just to do things I can do just as well in Gimp. If I need to buy Photoshop to do something professionally, then so be it. But GIMP is great because it makes it so that I, as an average computer user, don't [I]need[/I] to buy Photoshop.
And yes I know, pirating Photoshop is an option. But not everyone is comfortable doing that, or wants to do that. Myself included, again because I don't need to because GIMP works just fine.
[editline]22nd November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Johnny Guitar;49168922]No actual graphic designer is ever going to use gimp stop lieing to yourself[/QUOTE]
And that's perfectly fine; meanwhile, GIMP is fucking great for those of us who just need to edit an image once in a while, and don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on (or pirate) Photoshop.
You're all acting as if GIMP's very existence is a scourge on the world or some shit. No, it's not as versatile or as powerful as Photoshop, but as far as a free alternative goes, it's pretty great. If GIMP didn't exist, what other alternative to Photoshop would there be for editing photos? Fucking Paint.NET?
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;49168597]http://i.imgur.com/QlGpd.gif
Paint is better than Photoshop. Can you do this in Photoshop? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
for those wondering: a bmp file is a bitmap, which means that each color is stored in the file as the individual bytes that make up the red green and blue channels (so white would have 3 bytes of 255, 255, 255 (in binary, 11111111 11111111 11111111).
he chose the specific colors whose bytes, when saved into a bitmap file, correspond to the ascii characters for a simple hello world program in C++. When opened in a text editor, those bytes are interpreted as text. The first part there is the "header", which contains info about the file.
GIMP's fine and does everything you could want from an image editing software. A bit of a chore getting used to, but so's any other program alike.
I have colour to alpha on photoshop, sort of. Wand, contiguous off, 0% sensitivity, select, delete. What I really like with gimp though is pixel locking. On photoshop, with a brush, you draw anywhere without attaching to a pixel, but with the pencil tool it falls flat because you don't know where you'll draw. Something neither of these programs have is a live line tool. I want to have a 100% accurate preview of a line I'm about to draw but I can't :(
Seriously if you're shitting on either because you tried the other and it didn't work out you're not an insider, you learn to use them over weeks not days.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49169259]photoshop is more affordable than most people would think, you can get the adobe subscription for fairly cheap and you can get a hefty student discount for having a college email if you're working to be a designer through college
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if it did everything everyone wanted it would be used by everyone[/QUOTE]
Why would I pay [I]anything[/I] when GIMP is free and does what I need? Especially now that Adobe has that subscription bullcocky going on.
And no, it wouldn't be used by everyone, because Photoshop is industry standard. That's what most people know and use. The general populus doesn't even know about GIMP.
Some people need features that only Photoshop has, sure. However, GIMP has enough features to satisfy most non-professionals (especially with the community plugins). GIMP isn't bad to use by any means, either - some of y'all are just being asshole elitists and calling it bad because it's slightly different than Photoshop and you never bothered to learn it.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;49169285]Why would I pay [I]anything[/I] when GIMP is free and does what I need? Especially now that Adobe has that subscription bullcocky going on.
And no, it wouldn't be used by everyone, because Photoshop is industry standard. That's what most people know and use. The general populus doesn't even know about GIMP.
Some people need features that only Photoshop has, sure. However, GIMP has enough features to satisfy most non-professionals (especially with the community plugins). GIMP isn't bad to use by any means, either - some of y'all are just being asshole elitists and calling it bad because it's slightly different than Photoshop and you never bothered to learn it.[/QUOTE]
"why would i pay for plumbing when the ditch is right there"
also i get the entire CC for free (not warez, my school does free volume licensing)
i've tried GIMP many times, and it's just so user-unfriendly
it suffers from engineer design syndrome
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;49169318]"why would i pay for plumbing when the ditch is right there"
also i get the entire CC for free (not warez, my school does free volume licensing)
i've tried GIMP many times, and it's just so user-unfriendly
it suffers from engineer design syndrome[/QUOTE]
All powerful software is hard to use initially, and this does include Photoshop.
Blender is for fucking aliens though :v:
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49169259]
if it did everything everyone wanted it would be used by everyone[/QUOTE]
Right, is that the argument your gonna make about Libre Office and Microsoft word?
[editline]23rd November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=paul simon;49169325]All powerful software is hard to use initially, and this does include Photoshop.
Blender is for fucking aliens though :v:[/QUOTE]
I picked it up easily, but that's because I've used everything from Maya to Sketchup.
[QUOTE=willtheoct;49168533]Most modellers would agree that after learning max/maya, blender is a walk in the park once you learn how to hit spacebar,[B] and becomes the ultimate modelling tool[/B].[/QUOTE]
the funniest thing in this thread
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;49168597][img]http://i.imgur.com/QlGpd.gif[/img]
Paint is better than Photoshop. Can you do this in Photoshop? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
Overv made this.
:science101:
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[QUOTE=proboardslol;49169237]for those wondering: a bmp file is a bitmap, which means that each color is stored in the file as the individual bytes that make up the red green and blue channels (so white would have 3 bytes of 255, 255, 255 (in binary, 11111111 11111111 11111111).
he chose the specific colors whose bytes, when saved into a bitmap file, correspond to the ascii characters for a simple hello world program in C++. When opened in a text editor, those bytes are interpreted as text. The first part there is the "header", which contains info about the file.[/QUOTE]
The BMP format stores colors in green, red, blue
:sex101:
[QUOTE=paul simon;49169325]All powerful software is hard to use initially, and this does include Photoshop.
Blender is for fucking aliens though :v:[/QUOTE]
3ds Max is for fucking aliens
So, does this mean im the only one who doesn't use either, but instead, uses photofiltre?
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;49169225]That's great and all but I'm not spending $500 or whatever inane price Adobe asks for just to do things I can do just as well in Gimp. If I need to buy Photoshop to do something professionally, then so be it. But GIMP is great because it makes it so that I, as an average computer user, don't [I]need[/I] to buy Photoshop.
And yes I know, pirating Photoshop is an option. But not everyone is comfortable doing that, or wants to do that. Myself included, again because I don't need to because GIMP works just fine.
[editline]22nd November 2015[/editline]
And that's perfectly fine; meanwhile, GIMP is fucking great for those of us who just need to edit an image once in a while, and don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on (or pirate) Photoshop.
You're all acting as if GIMP's very existence is a scourge on the world or some shit. No, it's not as versatile or as powerful as Photoshop, but as far as a free alternative goes, it's pretty great. If GIMP didn't exist, what other alternative to Photoshop would there be for editing photos? Fucking Paint.NET?[/QUOTE]
I agree with you as well as who you quoted but why is this post sounding like they're attacking you personally for using GIMP? Actually, who the hell cares which one someone uses?
I use GIMP because I'm too lazy to learn photoshop
I really need to get round to that one day
I tried to use GIMP after using for Photoshop forever. It made me want to hurt things. Yet at the same time I can use Blender without problems, although I'm fully aware how shitty the interface is.
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;49169225]Fucking Paint.NET?[/QUOTE]
Whoa there son, that's them shots been fired against my favorite image editing software equaling potatochop. You get your awful GUI editor out of here, and stop arguing with big boys.
(Arguably, despite being my favorite, P.NET crashes when there size of the picture dares to be more than 5k px. Sadness.).
Good, the gimp is an amazing program that has really improved in the latest versions, I dropped photoshop for it.
I'm not a stallman level free software person, even though i believe he is right even if his ideals are hard to implement, but I like to use free software whenever possible, and gimp simply does the job for me.
[QUOTE=gufu;49169829]Whoa there son, that's them shots been fired against my favorite image editing software equaling potatochop. You get your awful GUI editor out of here, and stop arguing with big boys.
(Arguably, despite being my favorite, P.NET crashes when there size of the picture dares to be more than 5k px. Sadness.).[/QUOTE]
Oh please, Paint.NET pales in comparison for anything other than pixel art.
Ever since GIMP introduced single window mode, the GUI has been fine.
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[QUOTE=Wormy;49169584]I thought that myself as well when I first tried it out, but once you follow some tutorials it gets easy. The GUI could be easier though.[/QUOTE]
The GUI is honestly almost irrelevant in Blender, at least for modeling. Once one stops being a barbarian and learns to use the hotkeys properly, he or she might only use the GUI once or twice during the entire modeling process.
That gives it a bit of a learning curve since you're sorta [I]expected[/I] to use the hotkeys instead of the GUI, but once you get used to it, it speeds up your workflow considerably.
That said, the 2.5+ GUI is a huge improvement over the 2.4 and earlier GUI.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;49168272]i did notice that photoshop would be much better for digital painting and stuff like that. whenever i open any Photoshop, though, my first question is always "where the hell are all the tools?"[/QUOTE]
they're right where you expect them to be
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[QUOTE=willtheoct;49168716]Why are you not using hotkeys?
[del]you missed the joke[/del]
Nevermind, I completely missed that the animation is in fact plausible. You're right, this would work in photoshop/GIMP, too. You could even write a plugin to make it easier.[/QUOTE]
are you dumb? what does that have to do with hotkeys
Personally I found GIMP becomes so much easier to use after looking into graphics programming a tad. Vector graphics such as html5 canvas or cairo are pretty similar in the way they use brushes.etc.
GIMP likes to hide the functionality away in sub-menus, whereas photoshop rubs its hairy sack of features in your face immediately, which makes GIMP less beginner friendly.
Both are great and have different stronk points. i just wish GIMP didn't take as long to load.
Am I the only one who can't stand single window mode on gimp but likes normal gimp?
[QUOTE=Bambo.;49169939]Personally I found GIMP becomes so much easier to use after looking into graphics programming a tad. Vector graphics such as html5 canvas or cairo are pretty similar in the way they use brushes.etc.
GIMP likes to hide the functionality away in sub-menus, whereas photoshop rubs its hairy sack of features in your face immediately, which makes GIMP less beginner friendly.
Both are great and have different stronk points. i just wish GIMP didn't take as long to load.[/QUOTE]
Have you updated recently? They fixed the long load times years ago.
[editline]23rd November 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=zakedodead;49169995]Am I the only one who can't stand single window mode on gimp but likes normal gimp?[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;49170028]Have you updated recently? They fixed the long load times years ago.
[editline]23rd November 2015[/editline]
[/QUOTE]
Yeah I keep it updated, it's all the plugins that mine hangs on, any ideas?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;49168025]nah you just suck at it
i tried to switch to Photoshop a while ago. it was horrible. i've used GIMP 2.6 (only updated once, from 2.6.8 to 2.6.12) for seven years now and can create magic with it, so i'm not giving it up any time soon.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's horrible because you "suck at it" ?
[QUOTE=DOG-GY;49169438]the funniest thing in this thread[/QUOTE]
Whats so funny about that? Blender is not industry standard but it does indeed have very good modeling tools and there has been a couple of opinions from professionals that would prefer Blenders modelling workflow and tools over 3DS Max etc.
As for GIMP, used it in the past, hated its interface and how complicated it makes some easy processes. Went back to Photoshop.
Kinda funny because it is like the other way around for me with Blender and 3DS Max, never got into that because Blender just has things easier accessible once you understand it better.
I really don't get why people give so much shit to GIMP. Sure, if you need to do any image editing professionally, it lacks many of the more advanced features and you'd be crazy to use it instead of Photoshop. But if that's your job, the software licenses will be paid for by your employer anyway so that's not even a problem.
However, as a casual user who only needs to do some quick and dirty edits every now and then, GIMP does pretty much everything I need, and I found it fairly easy to get into. I haven't had any major gripes with its UI ever since the single window mode was released. Hell, in this instagram filter culture of today, i bet 99% of people wouldn't even need half the capabilities that GIMP offers. And best of all, it's completely free and open source. For what I need, I wouldn't even want to pirate Photoshop because it would be more of a hassle and a waste of disk space compared to GIMP.
Win98 paint or bust
I'm still waiting for the perfect modern graphics program that is simple, but can do more.
[QUOTE=Talvy;49170211]I'm still waiting for the perfect modern graphics program that is simple, but can do everything.[/QUOTE]
Not everything is simple, so it simply won't happen.
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