Putin: You better not mess with a nuclear-armed Russia
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A.M.G. - Go Hard Like Vladimir Putin
[QUOTE=Nak;45850839]You muppet .. Russia and USA aren't the only with nuclear weapons.
[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Nuclear_weapons.png[/t][/QUOTE]
and where I was talking anything about nuclear weapons ?
the 007 is spy ... means UK doomed from within ...
[QUOTE=Ghost656;45851867]Yeah everything you disagree on is a conspiracy theory and not a fact.
[url]http://www.wsieci.pl/wsieci-cala-prawda-o-trotylu-pnews-1265.html[/url]
[url]http://smolenskcrash.eu/news-102-independent-experts-confirm-explosives-were-found.html#.VALy4mN0Z1A[/url][/QUOTE]
Nice. One shitty newspaper and another site linking to said shitty newspaper. Totally confirmed. It's not like the Polish government says it was human error or anything.
[QUOTE]"The immediate cause of the accident was the descent below the minimum descent altitude at an excessive rate of descent in weather conditions which prevented visual contact with the ground, as well as a delayed execution of the go-around procedure. Those circumstances led to an impact on a terrain obstacle resulting in separation of a part of the left wing with aileron and consequently to the loss of aircraft control and eventual ground impact"[78][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;45849910]Well, that's what happens when you elect a president who worked for the KGB and is quite possibly still a Communist.[/QUOTE]
Worked for kgb, he could have been anything in there. He also refused to partake in a kgb plot to take over government from gorbachev, effectively picking the side AGAINST the soviet union, which brings me to the next point.
Quite possibly a communist? Do you even know the definition of communist apart from "bad guy who opposes muh freedums". I think you meant Socialist, in which case you would still be wrong.
Communism (There are a number of different ideologies) is generally opposed: Religion, Privatisation, private monopolies
Putin has a very "friendly" relationship with the Russian Orthodox Church.
Putin is certainly not opposed to privatisation.
Putin is certainly not opposed to private monopolies.
For future discussions if you insist on comparing Putin to something it would be closer to the Tsar (Religion, Cossacks and authoritarianism). I also suggest you read up on socialism/communism, if you think Putin is a communist then you either don't know a lot about Putin and Communism or you are just repeating someone's equally misinformed opinion.
[QUOTE=Nak;45846931]The old nuclear missiles aren't that dangerous .. with the ballistic missile defense and the adv-radars in the EU would allow us to shoot them down before they get a change to detonate.
The biggest thread I see are their nuclear submarines that can go undetected [url=http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/tmt/466617.html]for weeks[/url] or if someone where so stupid to use a MIRV.[/QUOTE]
I think you're overestimating the ballistic missile defenses.
You know, this whole situation reminds me of ArmA 2 campaign.
Now Russia, after all the anti-gay propaganda BS, all the killings in Ukraine and all the attacks to that same country, "doesn't intend to have a mayor scale warfare".
I wish I'd live on another planet instead of watching this irony.
[QUOTE=laserguided;45859337]Nice. One shitty newspaper and another site linking to said shitty newspaper. Totally confirmed. It's not like the Polish government says it was human error or anything.[/QUOTE]
I like how you completely ignore the political factors that lead to that "conclusion of investigation"
[quote]The Polish and Russian governmental reports are unavoidably political, consequently biased in nature and possess an inherent conflict of interest (suffice to say, parties responsible for preparing and organising the flight, were the actual authors of the final Polish governmental report).
Many findings of both Russian and Polish governmental reports have been proven to be false and unfounded, subsequently giving a misleading picture and set of circumstances into the death of 96 Polish EU citizens.
It is worth mentioning that, the Polish committee investigating the circumstances of the Smolensk crash was created and operated pursuant to provisions that are contradictory to aviation law. With the Miller's committee being illegal, its final report has no legal basis.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Ghost656;45862307]I like how you completely ignore the political factors that lead to that "conclusion of investigation"[/QUOTE]
Take off your tinfoil hat.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;45862307]I like how you completely ignore the political factors that lead to that "conclusion of investigation"[/QUOTE]
Care to provide evidence as to why it was indeed some sort of stich up?
Bare in mind your evidence must be better than the current hypothesis which states bad weather, for which warnings they refused to heed, caused them to come in too soon and hit the trees. Also bare in mind that the last article you linked on this topic in a different thread, by some university physics professor, claimed that the MVD invented that fog using some kind of fog machine.
You cannot claim something is true until the evidence to support it being true is better than the evidence supporting it not being true.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;45862501]Care to provide evidence as to why it was indeed some sort of stich up?
Bare in mind your evidence must be better than the current hypothesis which states bad weather, for which warnings they refused to heed, caused them to come in too soon and hit the trees. Also bare in mind that the last article you linked on this topic in a different thread, by some university physics professor, claimed that the MVD invented that fog using some kind of fog machine.
You cannot claim something is true until the evidence to support it being true is better than the evidence supporting it not being true.[/QUOTE]
It's not unlikely that it was a stich up, it's not 100% certain either.
But the conclusion from the Polish government isn't 100% trust worthy either, considering it's the opposition we're talking about, and they're not independent either.
Is there valid evidence that the plane crashed by accident?
[quote]Bare in mind your evidence must be better than the current hypothesis which states bad weather, for which warnings they refused to heed, caused them to come in too soon and hit the trees. Also bare in mind that the last article you linked on this topic in a different thread, by some university physics professor, claimed that the MVD invented that fog using some kind of fog machine.[/quote]
Citation needed.
[quote]You cannot claim something is true until the evidence to support it being true is better than the evidence supporting it not being true.[/quote]
To be honest, you can't really claim the conclusion from the Polish government as true either, considering so many factors that influence their conclusion.
An independent research is more trust worthy.
[QUOTE=download;45842965]"Let us invade other peaceful countries because we have nukes."
Russia really needs to be slapped down but I can't see how anyone could do it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The mouse;45843049]As if this means anything, no-one would ever use Nukes unless they were used against them. Russia is a power in decline that maintains it's influence solely through aging military might and a grip on volatile natural resources, Russia has no friends on the international stage and a weak economy with colossal poverty.[/QUOTE]
I hope I see day when Russia dissolves into ten or twenty different nations that cooperate with each other and don't use their military to justify their position of power.
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