Trumps head of energy is a climate change denialist
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[QUOTE=Code3Response;51343297]As always, people don't understand that everything that comes out of a politicians mouth is lip service. They do not care about you in an election year. Period.[/QUOTE]
Statistically they actually do tend to keep quite a lot of their promises IIRC
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51343302]The less of them remain here to cause trouble the better pleased I'll be tbh, the behavior they've displayed has ranged from the disgusting to the outright sociopathic.[/QUOTE]
I'm all for schadenfreude and an underdog victory is always appealing when you actually like the underdog, but they were just nasty about it, and come across as hypocritical when they were whining about the attitudes of people who disagreed with them during the election.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51343237]clean coal[/QUOTE]
Doesn't exist. "Clean coal" is a misnomer, but "slightly less dirty coal" doesn't sound as good.
I've had multiple extreme psychological breakdowns since the election day, and it's all because of severe cringing. I've evolved into a state were nothing matters, because my brain blocks the feelings away so I can survive.
[QUOTE=mcharest;51343201]I've always felt that climate change was the only trump-card (no pun intended) to play in the game of false equivalency between Clinton and Trump. And not coincidentally, the candidates' environmental policies have gone severely underreported throughout this election cycle. Because what's most important, apparently, is that we stay up to date 24/7 on Trump's tweetstorms.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but the amount of climate change denial within the alt-right is also underreported. And their opinions are the ones that matter most in this regard, because from the perspective of a working class Trump voter whose whole town works in dirty industry, where the threat of cancer, crippling or lethal accidents, and hazardous pollution might be considered the price one has to pay to make a living, climate change is something that they can't even afford to consider. So then whose left to be misled? The angry Bernie voters?
My env. sustainability professor walked into class today without a word. she was just crushed to see a climate change denialist elected as president. That in this day and age when we have SO much evidence for CC that there are people who look at it all and can shrug it off is wrong. She ended the lecture saying "if you don't believe in climate change, you don't understand science."
I legitimately hope some country gets mad at us and blows us all away. We fucking deserve it.
[QUOTE=Stolons;51343361]My env. sustainability professor walked into class today without a word. she was just crushed to see a climate change denialist elected as president. That in this day and age when we have SO much evidence for CC that there are people who look at it all and can shrug it off is wrong. She ended the lecture saying "if you don't believe in climate change, you don't understand science."[/QUOTE]
You have a wonderful professor, and I hope she keeps up the hard work in spite of what's happened and what's going to happen. Tell her that us random folks on some obscure video game forum support and understand her.
the world [I]needs[/I] the US to set a precedent for clean energy, for fuck sake
why should China and India push for it when the US won't
I guess this is farewell for the Arctic
I wonder if people would care if we had the same level of pollution that China did
[QUOTE=J!NX;51343420]I wonder if people would care if we had the same level of pollution that China did[/QUOTE]
you may just find out
[QUOTE=Saphirx;51343416]the world [I]needs[/I] the US to set a precedent for clean energy, for fuck sake
why should China and India push for it when the US won't[/QUOTE]
Dont expect to see any pushes for clean energy here in India
we too have right wing lunatics in power who want to get rid of everybody except the Hindus, but never openly said it
[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51343187]:goodjob:
"...b-b-but it's okay guys, because we stopped Crooked Hillary because of her email scandal." :hurr:[/QUOTE]It's ironic because if you had turned on Hillary and stopped her at the DNC when it was painfully obvious to the rest of us that it was a corrupt shitshow you [I]could[/I] have given us Bernie.
Thanks for that, Democrats.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51343215]sit in stunned, and shocked silence as he sells your nation out from under you for each and every lie you bought.[/QUOTE]Just wait until he turns out to be an authoritarian asshole, the mental gymnastics justifying that are going to be interesting.
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c'mon republicans for fuck's sake
This is how it begins. Thanks America, one time we don't have the time for you to fuck up and you fuck up
2020 is the point of no return and now we will sail past it
i'm a graduate student in energy engineering and this worries me a lot
[QUOTE=J!NX;51343420]I wonder if people would care if we had the same level of pollution that China did[/QUOTE]
They would. It's like anything else: people only start giving a damn once it begins to affect them; once it does though, boy do they [i]give a damn[/i]. When you make people suffer and put them in pain, then you'll find that you've got their complete, undivided attention.
Of course by that point, it's too late. People don't care right now because not a lot of them are being affected. We're starting to see the effects more and more, and we're starting to feel them also, but you just need to give it time. In 50 to 100 years when the Earth is even more overpopulated than it is today, the weather patterns and oceans are fucked up, we can't farm like we used to because the climate has shifted, freshwater becomes more and more scarce, the icecaps have melted and the sea level has risen to a point where coastal cities across the globe have been flooded, etc., then they'll care. They won't be able to afford not to.
And then they'll ask, "Why didn't anybody do anything about this?" Because this is the cycle humans always fucking follow. Rinse and repeat, nothing is learned by the majority until it no longer matters because it's too late to do anything about it.
I don't think people fully understand the implications of climate change and just how drastically it's going to affect our planet, and us by extension. There will be an ungodly amount of deaths in the future. But because it hasn't happened yet, people don't take it seriously. And they also try to rationalize the concern away. "Science will find a way to save us all." "Maybe the predictions will be wrong and things won't be so bad." Etc. It's the same kind of thinking that follows the "God Himself Cannot Sink This Ship"/"Too Big to Fail" mentality.
And America's back to being a fucking joke. I hate this place.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51343215]What? No Trump supporters? Again?
I guess this is going to be a trend.
Vote the man in, say he'll make america great again
sit in stunned, and shocked silence as he sells your nation out from under you for each and every lie you bought.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed a theory with Sensationalist Headlines and I think this is the best place to post it.
I thought that SH was an alt-right circlejerk because I was in threads where it was impossible for the left to defend, ie SJW does this SJW does that. Skating uphill they call it. I was in those threads because the titles were usually pretty fucking terrible so I was properly baited.
Then I started to realise that if there's a thread about someone on the left being a nutter, the left won't come in because they can't defend it (except for the idiots like me). If there's a thread about someone on the left being a nutter, the right won't come in because they can't defend it (except for the idiots like <whatever>).
This is all anecdotal evidence from myself but I think it's fair to say that if you see a news article that's negative about Trump, and no one defends his actions, then I think it's fair to say that Trump supporters can't agree.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51343237]clean coal
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There
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No
Such
Thing
Even if Trump supporters actually agree with the underlying point in this and other threads--that Trump is going against his campaign promises, and that it's for the worst--, who is going to come and post here when it's an echochamber of hostility towards Trump supporters with posts like [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1541045&p=51343210&viewfull=1#post51343210]this[/url].
Even if we accept as fact "Trump supporters got duped", the long-term solution isn't to insult or ridicule them. Maybe doing makes you feel better right now, or maybe you think they deserve it for the impact their choice will have on the country, but doing so is just counterproductive. Spewing and supporting this hatred just alienates people who might otherwise come to agree with your position, people whom in 2 years might otherwise be willing to vote for a different direction than what they voted for yesterday.
[QUOTE=Govna;51343455]They would. It's like anything else: people only start giving a damn once it begins to affect them; once it does though, boy do they [i]give a damn[/i]. When you make people suffer and put them in pain, then you'll find that you've got their complete, undivided attention.
Of course by that point, it's too late. People don't care right now because not a lot of them are being affected. We're starting to see the effects more and more, and we're starting to feel them also, but you just need to give it time. In 50 to 100 years when the Earth is even more overpopulated than it is today, the weather patterns and oceans are fucked up, we can't farm like we used to because the climate has shifted, freshwater becomes more and more scarce, the icecaps have melted and the sea level has risen to a point where coastal cities across the globe have been flooded, etc., then they'll care. They won't be able to afford not to.
And then they'll ask, "Why didn't anybody do anything about this?" Because this is the cycle humans always fucking follow. Rinse and repeat, nothing is learned by the majority until it no longer matters because it's too late to do anything about it.
I don't think people fully understand the implications of climate change and just how drastically it's going to affect our planet, and us by extension. There will be an ungodly amount of deaths in the future. But because it hasn't happened yet, people don't take it seriously. And they also try to rationalize the concern away. "Science will find a way to save us all." "Maybe the predictions will be wrong and things won't be so bad." Etc. It's the same kind of thinking that follows the "God Himself Cannot Sink This Ship"/"Too Big to Fail" mentality.[/QUOTE]
There's already some evidence suggesting millions have died already, from the global dimming aspect of climate change in africa.
It hasn't even been 1 day and Trump voters have already shown they fucked up.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51343485]There
Is
No
Such
Thing[/QUOTE]
what if we take the coal pieces and put them under the tap first
Was in the other thread asking people to chill about Trump, give it a day or so instead of whipping everyone up into a frenzy for no real reason as a lot of pointless bickering was going on.
Woke up to hear this and fuck that I guess. God damn.
Where are Trump's supporters now?
Oh wait guys I know lets blame Obama this is all Obama's fault because :words:
[QUOTE=mr appie;51343603]Where are Trump's supporters now?[/QUOTE]
A lot of them are often found around their common echo chambers, so they can drown out reason daily.
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;51343435]It's ironic because if you had turned on Hillary and stopped her at the DNC when it was painfully obvious to the rest of us that it was a corrupt shitshow you [I]could[/I] have given us Bernie.
Thanks for that, Democrats.
Just wait until he turns out to be an authoritarian asshole, the mental gymnastics justifying that are going to be interesting.[/QUOTE]
Every Democrat on Facepunch tried to stop Hillary at the primaries. We [I]tried[/I] to give you Bernie.
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