Trump says Sprint, OneWeb to create 8,000 U.S. jobs [REAL NEWS, WONDERFUL AMAZING REAL NEWS] - Polidicks

New industries and iniatives do not mean jack shit when so many Americans cannot afford to send their kids to college in order to learn the skills needed for these new industries. If these 8,000 jobs bring back livelihood to many working class people then good.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51595493]New industries and iniatives do not mean jack shit when so many Americans cannot afford to send their kids to college in order to learn the skills needed for these new industries. If these 8,000 jobs bring back livelihood to many working class people then good.[/QUOTE] Exactly, it is insane what people will say in order to spin this because "trump is literally hitler" Well guess fucking what, in the 1930s Hitler brought back an insane amount of jobs in Germany. If he is "literally hitler" I am okay with that if I and my countries people have good stable jobs.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51595140]The US unemployment rate is 4.6% as of November. The estimated 2016 population is 324 mil. 11,000 jobs down, 14,893,000 to go, MAGA. In other words, that's great for ~11,000 households but I think this seems like perhaps a bit of trying to put some good icing on the absolutely horrid week or two Trump's appointments and such have turned out to be.[/QUOTE] Gotta account for working age there

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess. Now the 3,000 [I]new[/I] jobs mentioned in the article sounds good. Lets see if things actually work out that way.[/QUOTE] um, what the president of the United States is supposed to fix the United States economy, not the Indian or Chinese economy. what exactly is your point here. [QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595310]Let's put this in perspective. If the Chinese government talked with companies and took 1,000 jobs from the united states, what would you think of the Chinese government?[/QUOTE] You mean what they've been doing for just about every industrial job that we've had?

8000 isn't shit. Better keep kissing trump's ass though.

[QUOTE=MrBacon;51595514]8000 isn't shit. Better keep kissing trump's ass though.[/QUOTE] 1. He's not even the president yet. 2. He's not even the president yet. 3. Say that to the 8000 families that might be able to buy their children Christmas gifts next year. 4. It's only fair to assume that over the course of the next eight years, this pattern will continue. Trump has clearly shown that even without presidential powers, he's capable of bringing companies back. This is good, no matter how you spin it.

[QUOTE=MrBacon;51595514]8000 isn't shit. Better keep kissing trump's ass though.[/QUOTE] holy shit he isnt even president yet and hes already changing the lifes of thousands of people and you still say "it isn't enough". You're the type of person to kick and scream when their mom doesn't buy them enough games for Christmas.

[QUOTE=Monkah;51595527]3. Say that to the 8000 families that might be able to buy their children Christmas gifts next year.[/QUOTE] oh my god

[QUOTE=Monkah;51595527] 3. Say that to the 8000 families that might be able to buy their children Christmas gifts next year. [/QUOTE] lmao nice try dude

[QUOTE=FlamingBlizza;51595538]lmao nice try dude[/QUOTE] "haha yeah nice try, tell me when it changes 1000000000000 lifes and then maybe ill be happy" ungrateful you are.

[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;51595550]"haha yeah nice try, tell me when it changes 1000000000000 lifes and then maybe ill be happy" ungrateful you are.[/QUOTE] not what we're complaining about lol that was a no better argument than [URL="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emotional_appeal"]"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!1"[/URL]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595532]oh my god[/QUOTE] What? "8000 jobs, who cares" is fucking stupid to say. "Oh yeah, I don't care about 8000 people because none of them are me." is possibly the most selfish and toxic attitude you can have. Eight thousand people might just've had their lives changed because of this. For all we know, more of these types of deals are going to be happening over the course of the next eight years. You might be happily employed, but there's a large portion of the US population that's unable to find a job in what's a continuously crumbling economy. All because it isn't [B]your life[/B] that's affected, doesn't mean that the lives of thousands weren't just changed in a single deal. No, it isn't some groundbreaking revolutionary change. Nobody's saying that it is. Still, the fact that people have the audacity to somehow shit on the president-elect for potentially changing thousands of lives for the better is both hilarious and despicable.

To be honest family I made almost the exact same post about families in the Carrier thread and it turns out I was played like everyone else. Fool me one shame on you etc. I'll believe it when I see it.

[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51595029]This isn't the same situation at all. He isn't saving jobs from leaving, he is bringing them back.[/QUOTE] no not really, these jobs were planned over 3 years ago when they announced initial plans to invest, Trump is just taking credit for doing didly shit, and whats more, this has taken 3 years to get this far, its probably going to take many more years to get running

Yo I fucking hate Trump but the amount of reach some people are going to in order to criticize this is ridiculous. Yeah it's obvious Trump is taking credit for everything he can but 8000 jobs is 8000 jobs.

These numbers sound really big when they're not put in percentage points. 8000 jobs sounds a heck of a lot bigger than 4% unemployment. I'm pretty skeptical of these numbers considering that Carrier deal was a lie. I don't think we should trust this announcement because Trump has a known habit of lying and exaggerating the truth. [QUOTE=Monkah;51595527] 4. It's only fair to assume that over the course of the next eight years, this pattern will continue. Trump has clearly shown that even without presidential powers, he's capable of bringing companies back. This is good, no matter how you spin it.[/QUOTE] He's pretty good at taking credit for other people doing their jobs! [QUOTE=1239the;51595702]Yo I fucking hate Trump but the amount of reach some people are going to in order to criticize this is ridiculous. Yeah it's obvious Trump is taking credit for everything he can but 8000 jobs is 8000 jobs.[/QUOTE] Trump saved 1100 jobs with the carrier deal? Then it was 800 jobs? 8000 jobs might not actually be 8000 jobs. I'm just saying, we should not take a known liar by his word.

I don't give a fuck who is responsible, 8000 more employed americans is nothing but good

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51595703]Trump saved 1100 jobs with the carrier deal? Then it was 800 jobs? 8000 jobs might not actually be 8000 jobs. I'm just saying, we should not take a known liar by his word.[/QUOTE] Yeah but until we have more info saying "well it's NOT GOOD ENOUGH" is just kind of lame.

it's good if it's true.

I'll believe it when I see it, but I do find it exceptionally annoying when individuals take credit for something that others would have done anyways. From the article it doesn't even appear that Trump had anything to do with this occurrence aside from the announcement taking place in the Trump Tower. I want Trump to succeed, but this is not how you do it. Saying that you did something when you had nothing to do with it does not make a successful leader, it makes a liar and a mooch.

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess. [/QUOTE] What do you think the phrase 'taking them back' means? And yes, they do not matter to us unless you can propose a benefit for those jobs going abroad then Trump shouldn't care. [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51594922]It it going to be like the air conditioner company when a tiny fraction of those jobs were "saved" only to be automated?[/QUOTE] As long as that manufacturing stays in America as apposed to going abroad, then its a good deal.

[QUOTE=Sally;51595836]What do you think the phrase 'taking them back' means? And yes, they do not matter to us unless you can propose a benefit for those jobs going abroad then Trump shouldn't care. As long as that manufacturing stays in America as apposed to going abroad, then its a good deal.[/QUOTE] Manufacturing in America helps, but it's not a good deal. Jobs replaced by robots, and or industries requiring less labor is what is destroying many of the Midwestern states. Manufacturing brought back to the US that may have the benefit of taxation and a minute number of jobs (a factory that may have employed 5,000 now only requires 50 to illustrate the point) But not only that, many companies whose primary market is in the States will bring their manufacturing and other services back naturally, once their jobs can be automated or require significantly fewer employees regardless of who is in office, or who is in congress. Simply because while foreign workers are cheaper than American ones, Machines work for the cost of electricity and maintenance, which may as well be free in comparison.

[QUOTE=Reviized;51595852]Manufacturing in America helps, but it's not a good deal. Jobs replaced by robots, and or industries requiring less labor is what is destroying many of the Midwestern states. Manufacturing brought back to the US that may have the benefit of taxation and a minute number of jobs (a factory that may have employed 5,000 now only requires 50 to illustrate the point) But not only that, many companies whose primary market is in the States will bring their manufacturing and other services back naturally, once their jobs can be automated or require significantly fewer employees regardless of who is in office, or who is in congress. Simply because while foreign workers are cheaper than American ones, Machines work for the cost of electricity and maintenance, which may as well be free in comparison.[/QUOTE] Ultimately isn't this just showing that there needs to be a increased focus on giving former low-skilled workers the new skills required so they can work in different industries? Pretty damn sure that's happening in the rest of the "western" world, but seems like the whole "paying for your education" thing that's especially rampant in the US is making sure that's not happening (unless you've managed to find a employer willing to pay for you, but how rare is that?). Correct me if I'm wrong on the last bits though.

What I don't understand is that the republican platform is staunchly anti-government interference, yet trump is allowed to essentially interfere in the running of businesses. Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51597446]What I don't understand is that the republican platform is staunchly anti-government interference, yet trump is allowed to essentially interfere in the running of businesses. Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory?[/QUOTE] How is he interfering in the running of businesses?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51597446]What I don't understand is that the republican platform is staunchly anti-government interference, yet trump is allowed to essentially interfere in the running of businesses. Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory?[/QUOTE] Making deals and interfering with an businesses ability to choose a certain action are different things. Sprint didn't have to do this. I am sure they could have easily outsourced these jobs.

[QUOTE=MadPro119;51597450]How is he interfering in the running of businesses?[/QUOTE] Clearly he had some part in bringing those jobs back, his platform is also about trade tariffs and other methods to get jobs back into the US. Why is that okay but government regulation isn't? [editline]29th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;51597455]Making deals and interfering with an businesses ability to choose a certain action are different things. Sprint didn't have to do this. I am sure they could have easily outsourced these jobs.[/QUOTE] He is going to interfere though, he's pro tariff

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51597456]Clearly he had some part in bringing those jobs back, his platform is also about trade tariffs and other methods to get jobs back into the US. Why is that okay but government regulation isn't? [editline]29th December 2016[/editline] He is going to interfere though, he's pro tariff[/QUOTE] [quote]What I don't understand is that the republican platform is staunchly anti-government interference, yet trump is [B]allowed [/B]to essentially interfere in the running of businesses.[/quote] Yeah I mean hes free to do whatever he wants. Political parties adapt, change, and there is even dissent and disagreement within parties. Who is going to not allow him to?

[QUOTE=MadPro119;51597525]Yeah I mean hes free to do whatever he wants. Political parties adapt, change, and there is even dissent and disagreement within parties. Who is going to not allow him to?[/QUOTE] So what you're saying is that the Republican party is now pro-business regulation and government interference?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;51597537]So what you're saying is that the Republican party is now pro-business regulation and government interference?[/QUOTE] I have no fucking clue what the Republican party or Democratic party are doing. I have a feeling we are going to see a big change in both parties over the coming years.