• Trump says Sprint, OneWeb to create 8,000 U.S. jobs [REAL NEWS, WONDERFUL AMAZING REAL NEWS]
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so is taking credit for things not related to him trump's new mo or something
[QUOTE=Streecer;51597575]so is taking credit for things not related to him trump's new mo or something[/QUOTE] Please read the article and watch the video and highlight where he takes credit for it? edit: My bad, the OP's article doesn't mention it but apparently he tweeted "Masa said he would never do this had we (Trump) not won the election!" So maybe you know more about this deal than Trump.
Don't we need like millions more to get the unemployment rate to get to drop a percent or so?
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;51598061]Don't we need like millions more to get the unemployment rate to get to drop a percent or so?[/QUOTE] 319000000 * 0.66264 (us pop * percent of pop age 16-64) 211382160 * 0.046 (result * current u-3) 9723579 / 4.6 (result / current-u3) Base on my calculations we would need about 2,113,822 jobs to drop the u-3 unemployment rate by 1%. It took from October 2009 to February 2011 to drop the u-3 from 10% to 9%. The u-6 dropped the same amount in that period so that's pretty good.
[QUOTE=Streecer;51597575]so is taking credit for things not related to him trump's new mo or something[/QUOTE] His new MO is the same as his old MO, though. [QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;51598061]Don't we need like millions more to get the unemployment rate to get to drop a percent or so?[/QUOTE] About 3.2mil. If we assume all 11,000 jobs (8,000 plus 3,000) are actually going to be created for generosity's sake, unemployment has been eased by 0.00247% by this change. Baby steps, for sure, but baby steps that have basically required trading away Obamacare, the EPA, gay marriage and LGBT rights, international stability, domestic ethnic/racial harmony as fragile as it was, and the rest of the economy.
[QUOTE=Monkah;51595527]4. It's only fair to assume that over the course of the next eight years, this pattern will continue. Trump has clearly shown that even without presidential powers, he's capable of bringing companies back. This is good, no matter how you spin it.[/QUOTE] You're saying that as if companies are getting more jobs into the US just because they like Trump. He's clearly promising them something that Obama didn't. Unless of course this is all politics and they're just culling 10000 jobs to make 8000 jobs in a state with less regulation, which is honestly a better conclusion. Considering the worrying search for climate change scientists and other potential undesirables in the current administration, I'd say this is almost more concerning than anything else. You can be absolutely sure that the first month of his presidency will be filled with changes that benefit large corporations over anyone else.
[QUOTE=Cinnamonbun;51595531]holy shit he isnt even president yet and hes already changing the lifes of thousands of people and you still say "it isn't enough". You're the type of person to kick and scream when their mom doesn't buy them enough games for Christmas.[/QUOTE] you're such a pathetically gullible person it's almost funny
The majority of sprint's sales support tech support and customer service are abroad so I'd imagine they're bringing call center jobs back to the states which is awesome.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595563]not what we're complaining about lol that was a no better argument than [URL="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emotional_appeal"]"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!1"[/URL][/QUOTE] Okay, think of the 8000 households that can afford ti sustain themselves thanks to these jobs then. Idk why you think the moment children are mentioned that it invalidates the point, sorry kids are a pretty large financial burden I guess? [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51598374]you're such a pathetically gullible person it's almost funny[/QUOTE] Yeah you get him! Oh wait any thread about Trump is instantly a shitshow, forgot that facepunch isn't a forum for intelligent adult discussion, carry on. [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Kyle902;51597446]What I don't understand is that the republican platform is staunchly anti-government interference, yet trump is allowed to essentially interfere in the running of businesses. Doesn't that seem a bit contradictory?[/QUOTE] At what point did Trump ever come off as a hardline Republican
Trump doesn't bring jobs back: "Haha LOL fukkin trumpets got fooled trump isn't going to stick to any of his promises!" Trump brings jobs back: "Haha LOL its only <x> amount of jobs, not nearly enough, fukkin trumpets got fooled, also wow way to steal those jobs from other people!!!" Is there any winning?
[QUOTE=Bazsil;51605380]Trump doesn't bring jobs back: "Haha LOL fukkin trumpets got fooled trump isn't going to stick to any of his promises!" Trump brings jobs back: "Haha LOL its only <x> amount of jobs, not nearly enough, fukkin trumpets got fooled, also wow way to steal those jobs from other people!!!" Is there any winning?[/QUOTE] Yeah I think a much better criticism of this is the sheer fact that, from all indications, Trump had nothing to do with this.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51605391]Yeah I think a much better criticism of this is the sheer fact that, from all indications, Trump had nothing to do with this.[/QUOTE] Except as far as it stands this surge of interest was unknown until Donald Trump was in talks with them? What the fuck is going to appease you, anything short of a raw transcript of the meeting? [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] The sheer fact that they didn't pull OUT their support for our economy wholesale shows a trust in the country under Trump's command, that alone draws a pretty strong line towards 'trump having something to do with this'
why don't we just give up more jobs to china and india while we're at it since y'all are so mad about it
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;51606280]Except as far as it stands this surge of interest was unknown until Donald Trump was in talks with them? What the fuck is going to appease you, anything short of a raw transcript of the meeting? [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] The sheer fact that they didn't pull OUT their support for our economy wholesale shows a trust in the country under Trump's command, that alone draws a pretty strong line towards 'trump having something to do with this'[/QUOTE] I wouldn't trust any claims by politicians creating jobs. Doubly so for Trump who has already proven to be even more duplicitous than the typical politician. We will see how effective he was at the end of 2017. Also the fact that companies are staying and not increasing or decreasing their investment sets a pretty low bar for Trump. ROFLBURGERs post sums it up well.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. You liberals whine about global warming, but since President Donald Trump was elected it's been getting colder every day. You're welcome ;)
[QUOTE=Tudd;51594906] Sprint shares ticked down about 0.3 percent in after-hours trading[/QUOTE] I thought it was common knowledge that after closing, shares reliably go down regardless of what company it is?
If y'all are done arguing about stupid irrelevant shit: [url]https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/28/trump-isnt-responsible-for-sprint-bringing-5-000-jobs-to-the-us/[/url] Trump didn't even do this. The investment plans were already underway. He is a lying piece of shit. Never forget that we have a sociopath in office who will say or do literally anything for power and praise. How many tines must we prove him wrong for that to sink in for some of you?
Yeah the Fake News tag is a little extreme IMO. The title and specific article linked never say Trump takes credit. Sprint and OneWeb are still bringing back 8,000 jobs.
[QUOTE=No Party Hats;51606280]Except as far as it stands this surge of interest was unknown until Donald Trump was in talks with them? What the fuck is going to appease you, anything short of a raw transcript of the meeting? [editline]31st December 2016[/editline] The sheer fact that they didn't pull OUT their support for our economy wholesale shows a trust in the country under Trump's command, that alone draws a pretty strong line towards 'trump having something to do with this'[/QUOTE] I think this puts it best.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51607224]I think this puts it best.[/QUOTE] I didnt kill myself when Trump was elected, that doesn't mean Trump can take credit for saving my life
[QUOTE=Judas;51607238]I didnt kill myself when Trump was elected, that doesn't mean Trump can take credit for saving my life[/QUOTE] Well that was a 10/10 comment right there if I ever saw one.
i think a more apt title would be to remove "Trump says" and "[FAKE NEWS]"
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51607250]i think a more apt title would be to remove "Trump says" and "[FAKE NEWS]"[/QUOTE] Bingo. Although I would be abit hesitant cause the only sources advocating the pre-existing deal is engadget's experience and some sources piggy backing off that.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51607260]Bingo. Although I would be abit hesitant cause the only sources advocating the pre-existing deal is engadget's experience and some sources piggy backing off that.[/QUOTE] The $50 billion (of the $100 billion announced with the Saudi's) investment in the US was talked about back before Trump met with the Japanese CEO, oddly this blogger tried to imply that the 50,000 jobs were part of that announcement when the CEO only announced them after meeting Trump. The jobs were likely coming either way but, as is typical these days, he had to go too far to blast Trump and implied something that was untrue.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51607219]Yeah the Fake News tag is a little extreme IMO. The title and specific article linked never say Trump takes credit. Sprint and OneWeb are still bringing back 8,000 jobs.[/QUOTE] trump is tweeting about it
[QUOTE=Sableye;51607445]trump is tweeting about it[/QUOTE] Sure but labeling the headline itself fake news is misleading, especially when the article and headline don't have him taking credit for it.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51607462]Sure but labeling the headline itself fake news is misleading, especially when the article and headline don't have him taking credit for it.[/QUOTE] but trump is claiming credit for it and sprint is sort of implying its because of his prez because they want to curry favor
[I]This isn't fake news.[/I] There's a huge misconception that fake news = clickbait or fake news = misleading news. Fake news is [I]made up news.[/I] It's verifiably wrong news. Reuters is being misleading with this, and clickbaity, but they've done their job by bringing up that it isn't clear if these jobs are part of the earlier investment and mentioned that the investment plan was already underway. Fake news is "Hillary's E-Mails Show She Wants to Nuke Russia," or "Trump Trafficking Cocaine Through Trump Shell Company." Clickbait is not the same as fake news is not the same as misleading news. This is a clickbait title and misleading news, but it's definitely not fake. Trump [I]did[/I] say that Sprint will bring 8,000 jobs. Him saying something, and people reporting on what he says, doesn't mean it's true. If all you do is read the title and assume it's true, you're the retard, not the news. Misleading, not even - they're reporting that Trump [I]said[/I] he's doing something, and the content of the article explains why it might not be true. If they said that Trump [I]has[/I] done something, when he hasn't, then it's fake.
I think people are taking the term "fake news" too literally. Fake news isn't just purely made up garbage, fake news also includes garbage like breitbart where they twist and turn the story to fit an agenda, whether intentionally or unintentionally. For example, [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/nov/06/donald-trump/donald-trumps-pants-fire-claim-obama-screamed-prot/"]Trump saying that obama screamed at a protester[/URL] is fake news because it contains elements of misleading or non factual information.
Sort of like how CNN said it was illegal for anyone to read Wikileaks for themselves. Fake news everywhere.
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