California spends $21.8 billion on welfare for illegals annually - Polidicks

Most illegals these days are actually trying to go back to where they came from.

[QUOTE=Lazor;27553526]it's a terrible clusterfuck of a sentence but after reading it 18 times i believe i have a rudimentary understanding of it[/QUOTE] Obviously Ridge himself doesn't understand the article because the title of his thread claims that the money is being spent on illegal immigrants, when that is objectively untrue

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;27553575]Obviously Ridge himself doesn't understand the article because the title of his thread claims that the money is being spent on illegal immigrants, when that is objectively untrue[/QUOTE] even fox news made the title of the article slightly less misleading

We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.

[QUOTE=Strider*;27553610]We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.[/QUOTE] And how did you come to that conclusion?

[QUOTE=Strider*;27553610]We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.[/QUOTE] Move to Somalia.

[QUOTE=Ridge;27553460]You are saying I have a fear of other races, which is insinuating I am therefore racist.[/QUOTE] Xenophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of foreigners, has nothing to do with race.

[QUOTE=Strider*;27553610]We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.[/QUOTE] i suggest you read ayn rand's books again if for no other reason than to get you to stop posting for a couple weeks

[QUOTE=Strider*;27553610]We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.[/QUOTE] So basically you want to go back to the day where you can pop into the saloon and challenge people to duels

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27553760]Xenophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of foreigners, has nothing to do with race.[/QUOTE] But we neither fear nor hate illegals. We don't want them here because they are breaking the law.

[QUOTE=Strider*;27553610]We could have completely free immigration to this country like we had in the past if only we weren't a welfare state.[/QUOTE] Whats with all the rand posts? did you just become a libertarian and you want to to spread the word. I have a libertarian friend but at least hes willing to admit rand was a bitch and capitalism causes slavery. [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Uberman77883;27553796] We don't want them here because they are breaking the law.[/QUOTE] Thats not a good reason. They are some of the hardest workers in the country.

[QUOTE=Habsburg;27553483][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjKBjM1ngw&feature=related[/media][/QUOTE] Can they do it with all their worldly belongings on their back? [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;27553760]Xenophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of foreigners, has nothing to do with race.[/QUOTE] I have a completely rational fear of xenomorphs

[QUOTE=Mandalorian;27552995]inb4 Glaber [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] But technically the welfare money is being spent on American citizens with illegals for parents[/QUOTE] That means they're not American citizens.

[QUOTE=Bllasae;27554181]That means they're not American citizens.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure if you're born in the US you're a US citizen.

[QUOTE=Bllasae;27554181]That means they're not American citizens.[/QUOTE] um if you are born in The USA then you are a citizen.

[QUOTE=Ridge;27553248]What does Ridley Scott's Aliens have to do with this? Anyway, regardless of the racism you are jumping to (again), I don't dislike Mexicans or Latinos or people of any skin shade. I dislike people that break the law. And they are breaking the law.[/QUOTE] Wow, you messed up both a basic word's definition and a piece of movie trivia at the same time! +2 combo bonus. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Ridge;27553914]Can they do it with all their worldly belongings on their back? [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] I have a completely rational fear of xenomorphs[/QUOTE] because illegal immigrants stashed in the back of a volkswagon are known for known for traveling heavy

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27553035]The problem is your broken system that makes it nearly impossible to immigrate legally and your war on drugs that turns Mexico into a violent hell-hole that everyone wants to get away from.[/QUOTE] If it's so Broken, how do 1 million people a year legally become U.S. citizens?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27553446]I never said you were racist is that a conservative persecution complex I see? aww[/QUOTE] Aw do you have an I am better than all those dumbass conservatism-complex?

[QUOTE=Broseph_;27554400]If it's so Broken, how do 1 million people a year legally become U.S. citizens?[/QUOTE] We are a big country so you would expect a high number of people to try to join. the simple fact that a percentage are able to do it proves nothing.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;27554400]If it's so Broken, how do 1 million people a year legally become U.S. citizens?[/QUOTE] You forget that it can take up to two years, and cost thousands of dollars. It's not exactly a cheap night at the disco.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;27554519]You forget that it can take up to two years, and cost thousands of dollars. It's not exactly a cheap night at the disco.[/QUOTE] 20 years* [img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/701/immigration764383462798.jpg[/img]

It took my dad 19 years to get full citizenship and he's a tiny jewish man from britain.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;27554449]We are a big country so you would expect a high number of people to try to join. the simple fact that a percentage are able to do it proves nothing.[/QUOTE] So basically you're trying to put a spin on the numbers so that you can interpret it to mean what you want it to mean? [quote]As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than all other countries in the world combined.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States[/url] Though I'm sure you'll try to find a way to twist that to make the US seem like the bad guy because you obviously seem to get some kind of enjoyment out of doing that.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;27554519]You forget that it can take up to two years, and cost thousands of dollars. It's not exactly a cheap night at the disco.[/QUOTE] Yes but the United States is Third Largest in population currently, why shouldn't it be difficult to get citizenship?

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;27553822]Whats with all the rand posts? did you just become a libertarian and you want to to spread the word. I have a libertarian friend but at least hes willing to admit rand was a bitch and capitalism causes slavery..[/QUOTE] We are in a news section and I'm commenting, deal with it. He's not a libertarian then, you tool. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lazor;27553774]i suggest you read ayn rand's books again if for no other reason than to get you to stop posting for a couple weeks[/QUOTE] I laughed.

[QUOTE=lawl;27554790]So basically you're trying to put a spin on the numbers so that you can interpret it to mean what you want it to mean? [/QUOTE] Isnt that exactly what he was doing? It shouldnt be this hard to become a citizen. [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Strider*;27554858] He's not a libertarian then, you tool. [[/QUOTE] wait hes not a libertarian because he doesn't like slavery? also wouldnt a tool be someone who calls people tools for no good reason?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;27554282]Pretty sure if you're born in the US you're a US citizen.[/QUOTE] Not if your parents aren't it shouldn't.

[QUOTE=Bllasae;27554986]Not if your parents aren't it shouldn't.[/QUOTE] and why is this? This is how the other countries work.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;27553446]I never said you were racist is that a conservative persecution complex I see? aww[/QUOTE] All I see you do on these forums constantly is either subtly troll, ridicule people for their opinions, or just flat out insult people. Seriously. Nine out of ten times, when I see a post by you, you're just in a thread to be a sarcastic moron, whether your opinion on something is correct or not. Either go to the oify, or just grow up.

[QUOTE=**Chris**;27555031]All I see you do on these forums constantly is either subtly troll, ridicule people for their opinions, or just flat out insult people. Seriously. Nine out of ten times, when I see a post by you, you're just in a thread to insult someone. Either go to the oify, or just grow up.[/QUOTE] I dont see this. I see him making good jokes to take away the srsness of the forum. He is never being right out hostile either. Your opinion of him probably has something to do if you politically agree with him or not though.